Hyde’s Strength Odyssey

MrKleen73 said:
Up 6 lbs from a few days back probably.
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Yeah that’s crazy bloat; been 229-231 consistently for days and didn’t consume an inordinate amount of food yesterday (on the lower side even). Sodium before bed was probably a bit higher but that’s still crazy for me, 4 extra pounds in one night.
 
229.6 this morning. Pushing Deadlift back til Saturday since we’re traveling that day to train with Chad. Trying to keep carbs lower today.
 
Back to 229, you have a big movement, or pee all day yesterday???
 
MrKleen73 said:
Back to 229, you have a big movement, or pee all day yesterday???
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I have been weighing around 10am, 235lbs was 5:45am. Multiple factors revealed themselves: giant poop post training must have been 1+lbs, realized my sodium intake the night before was very high even for me (despite daily calories being lower than usual), and the Mk I have been using was free liquid that is partially crashed from a peptide shop that closed doors right after I got my stuff - probably a large random dose of MK.

Did get some Aggressive Labz Mk Elite in I am excited to switch to soon. 15mg caps with Green Tea Extract and Hup A as well. It was buy 2 get 1 free and had 30% off the order - $56 for 180 caps servings, shipped.
 
Hyde said:
I have been weighing around 10am, 235lbs was 5:45am. Multiple factors revealed themselves: giant poop post training must have been 1+lbs, realized my sodium intake the night before was very high even for me (despite daily calories being lower than usual), and the Mk I have been using was free liquid that is partially crashed from a peptide shop that closed doors right after I got my stuff - probably a large random dose of MK.

Did get some Aggressive Labz Mk Elite in I am excited to switch to soon. 15mg caps with Green Tea Extract and Hup A as well. It was buy 2 get 1 free and had 30% off the order - $56 for 180 caps servings, shipped.
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Is that deal still going? If so PM me...
 
09/14/19 - Wk2, Deadlift (Speed)
BW 230.8

GHR, Push-ups, TRX Rows
2x13/25/15

Deadlift, stiffbar, hookgrip
135x10
225,315x3
385x2
425 7x2

Widegrip Blockpulls
385 3x6

Hi-Handle Trapbar
325x10
415 2x10

Farmers Walks
155 x100 feet including turn
235 2x50ft

Heavy Band Pullthrus
3x15

Very fun day of training down in CoMo with Chad at the facility he runs, then pizza afterwards. 9 hours of driving but it was worth it. Wife pulled 315 for an easy double and got some great farmers and Yoke training in.
 
300mg test e in the left glute. Cake.

Ten years under the bar, one surgery, 13 competitions without oil. Time to take it to the next level.

12 weeks to comp. 20mg Pheraplex begins tomorrow.
 
Oh snap! I dunno if I’ll ever pin my left glute after that sciatic crap I went through. Totally in my head but it is my own irrational fear and I’m fine with it for now. Maybe I’ll get the woman to pin a lat lol.
 
Hyde said:
300mg test e in the left glute. Cake.

Ten years under the bar, one surgery, 13 competitions without oil. Time to take it to the next level.

12 weeks to comp. 20mg Pheraplex begins tomorrow.
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Ohhhh shiiiit. You’ve earned it brother, no doubt. Excited to see what kind of gnarly feats of strength the future holds for you.

SkRaw85 said:
Oh snap! I dunno if I’ll ever pin my left glute after that sciatic crap I went through. Totally in my head but it is my own irrational fear and I’m fine with it for now. Maybe I’ll get the woman to pin a lat lol.
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Think glute medius/minimus (obviously the minimus is deep so you wont get that but if you think youre aiming for that you’ll be fine). Divide your ass cheek into 4 quadrants and go superiolateral quadrant - shouldn’t have a problem with the sciatic as it runs pretty midline down the ass cheek.
 
SkRaw85 said:
Oh snap! I dunno if I’ll ever pin my left glute after that sciatic crap I went through. Totally in my head but it is my own irrational fear and I’m fine with it for now. Maybe I’ll get the woman to pin a lat lol.
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It went in so smooth and easy I wouldn’t have known it happened if I had my eyes closed. Like, a slinpin subq in bellyfat can be felt more than a fresh 25 in glutes, honestly. Just keep watching actual medical videos on YouTube of proper prep & injection technique til you feel comfortable. How I learned to take blood sugar and everything - there’s a ton of fast easy resources a google away. I would have completely botched the needle swap if I hadn’t learned about setting an air gap, & would have left a bunch of oil in the 18g before swapping to the 25.

Also learned the fast way to open the packages
 
09/16/19 - Wk3, Bench

2x ea: Cuban Press, Rotators, Cable Facepulls, Vogelpohl Rows, Hammercurls

Bench
45x10
95,135,185x5
235x2
265 4x2, 1x6

1bd Press
175 2x12

Side Raises
25,30x10

Rear Raises
20,25x12

Pulldowns
60,100x12
150x8

Pull-ups/Chin-ups
13/13

BB Curls
45,70x6
85x10 PR

Bench started awkward but the AMRAP moved just fine. 10mg Pheraplex preWO; nothing to report yet. Glad my curl strength is still on the rise!
 
SkRaw85 said:
Cuban press! Haven’t seen those in years
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Just a nice way to get the scaps pulled back and move the RC through some warmup rotation, basically unloaded.

Yesterday finished out ~4,000 calories and 315g protein. Weighed 229.8 out of bed around 9:30am today, so it doesn’t seem to be way too much. Going to try to get 4k & 300g respectively daily for now and see what happens.

Maybe it’s in my head, but even as of last night muscles truly seem a bit more full. PIP is about gone too.
 
Nope, sure isn't in your head. I always find it hilarious when people say it takes X amount of weeks for test to kick in... SHUT UP!!! You know not of what you speak. It may take a few weeks to see noticeable size & or strength gains but everything starts the moment the test enters your blood stream you are officially being upregulated... It's a steroid, it kicks in immediately... That and an extra 500-1000 calories will fill you up a bit too.
 
Hyde said:
Just a nice way to get the scaps pulled back and move the RC through some warmup rotation, basically unloaded.

Yesterday finished out ~4,000 calories and 315g protein. Weighed 229.8 out of bed around 9:30am today, so it doesn’t seem to be way too much. Going to try to get 4k & 300g respectively daily for now and see what happens.

Maybe it’s in my head, but even as of last night muscles truly seem a bit more full. PIP is about gone too.
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Used to do those quite a bit in the past. I hit a nerve yesterday for the first time. Got it 1/2” in and ZAP! Pulled out. Totally my fault, kinda in a hurry and sunk it too low in the delt. But in my defense, my shoulders are getting bigger so it threw me off
 
MrKleen73 said:
Nope, sure isn't in your head. I always find it hilarious when people say it takes X amount of weeks for test to kick in... SHUT UP!!! You know not of what you speak. It may take a few weeks to see noticeable size & or strength gains but everything starts the moment the test enters your blood stream you are officially being upregulated... It's a steroid, it kicks in immediately... That and an extra 500-1000 calories will fill you up a bit too.
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Completely agree. I felt my first pin ever and it was amazing. No damn way “placebo”. Even with PH’s and sarms while others claim weeks to kick in I get results almost instantly. Was recently reading a thread about “hyper excreters” and I honestly believe I fall into this category (just guessing without a bunch of blood tests). I have always been hypersensitive to anabolics and this cycle AI has been unneeded as of yet. Took a few small doses out of proactive fear but I have been letting it ride for a while without now. 600 mg/week nonetheless.
 
09/18/19 - Wk3, Squat

GHR/Push-up/TRX Fatmans
2x12/25/15

Squat
45 2x5
135x5
225,295,345x3
395 4x3, 1x8 RPE10

SSB
297 3x8

I am not exaggerating when I say this session took every ounce of my resolve to complete. Just didn’t have it today, even eating 42-4,300 calories yesterday, extra hour of sleep, extra mobility and movement prep today and took my time in warmups, and being 3 days on test/phera. My belt even felt like it was looser. The only way I know my gear is real is because I am metabolizing so many calories without issue and if the wind blows my dick gets hard.

Had to hit the ammonia just to get through my work triples even, and thank God for Pantera & Slipknot, but I persevered. Something tells me I should add some extra calories today.

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Ugh, hopefully just a rough day and tomorrow is stellar for you.
 
Time to eat up, big dog!
 
Hyde said:
The 4,000 calorie part is easy enough daily - it’s the 300g+ protein I’m trying to do that’s adding an element of dedication to this bulk. Keeps it from ALL being fat and sugar.
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No shît. The only way I eat 3500 is when I eat about 150-170g of fat a day. I honestly rarely get over 220g of protein anymore...usually like 180-210 most days. Shoveling down all of that protein is a damn chore. Time for some Sumner chicken shakes! 🤮
 
Well, I finished the day around ~4,500 but probably only 250 or so protein. Today I’m at 1,800 so far and about 132g pro. Weight was 235.6 before 6am so 4k is probably indeed a good spot for now.

This is already getting to be a lot of work. I don’t know how realistic 300g daily is going to be.
 
jswain34 said:
No shît. The only way I eat 3500 is when I eat about 150-170g of fat a day. I honestly rarely get over 220g of protein anymore...usually like 180-210 most days. Shoveling down all of that protein is a damn chore. Time for some Sumner chicken shakes! 🤮
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This is where I’ve been at for 7 weeks. 2 shakes a day but ALL the other 220g in clean proteins. I’m psyched I get to have any shakes honestly.
I’m not much for eating though.
 
SkRaw85 said:
The struggle is real. I hate having to compensate with shakes but some days ya just gotta.
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Matthersby said:
This is where I’ve been at for 7 weeks. 2 shakes a day but ALL the other 220g in clean proteins. I’m psyched I get to have any shakes honestly.
I’m not much for eating though.
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I really do wanna get like 200+ per day from food, then a couple shakes for good measure.

Went in for squat accessories tonight:

Back Extensions
15
+55 5x10

BB Row
45,95,135x10
200,230x12

BB Shrugs
230,280x15

Incline Chest-Supported DB Row
70 2x15

Calves on legpress
100x10
160 2x10
200 3-4x10

Didn’t wanna do it, but as always glad I did after. Already feeling juicier.
 
09/21/19 - Wk3, Overhead
BW ~242

BB Strictpress
45x10
95,135x5
155,175,190,200,210x3
220x2 PR?

Feet Up CGBP
135,205,210,215x5

BB Skullcrushers
70 2x15

Single-Arm Light Band Pressdowns
2x25/arm over then underhand

Miniband Pullaparts
3x30 w/ 45 sec rests

Went for a triple on the 100kg Press but it got stuck about halfway and lost the fight. That might be a rep PR still.

Last night I ate so much home-cooked bbq at a friend’s bday I actually woke up still full & digesting - no breakfast needed or possible. Phera appears to be rolling in strong, lots of fullness and weight is going up quick. Took 12.5mg exem last night.

Phera goes to 30mg today for 1 month.
 
After multiple movements, water to flush sodium, an AI dose Friday night, I was finally down to 238.2 this morning - probably an 8lb swing honestly. Second pin tonight
 
09/23/19 - Wk3, Deadlift (Reps)
BW 241.8

GHR/Push-ups/TRX Fatman Rows
2x13/25/16

Deadlift, powerbar
135,225,315x4
385,435x1
475x5,6
+straps
475x7 RPE8.5

Widegrip Blockpulls
435x7,8

Dead. PR’d total volume at 475 and hook grip felt decent; things moved pretty good today but like all volume deadlift days I don’t really recover well between sets and it takes forever. May go back for the legpress & Pullthrus but my right lat insert is aching bad and just kinda destroyed. Belt is already tight AF after just moving it out last week. The bloat is real.
 
Going in for accessories tomorrow or this evening? That rep day looks brutal so I’m not surprised you were cashed by the end of that.
 
jswain34 said:
Going in for accessories tomorrow or this evening? That rep day looks brutal so I’m not surprised you were cashed by the end of that.
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Idk I am probably going to bag it honestly; I feel like what I did is directly going to build my deadlift better than any stupid pullthrus at this point. My glutes quads and hams are already smoked and my lat insert means no back training either - it hurt to even pull the plates off and carry them on my right side.

Also, DMHA is terrific at appetite suppression. A poor choice indeed when bulking.
 
Hyde said:
Idk I am probably going to bag it honestly; I feel like what I did is directly going to build my deadlift better than any stupid pullthrus at this point. My glutes quads and hams are already smoked and my lat insert means no back training either - it hurt to even pull the plates off and carry them on my right side.

Also, DMHA is terrific at appetite suppression. A poor choice indeed when bulking.
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I dropped DMHA pwo just for that reason. Too many feel goods, not enough hungers.
 
Killing it, take care of that lat insertion!!!!
 
09/24/19 - Deadlift Accessories

10 min walk

GHR
2x12

Sumo Blockpulls
285 2x10

Startrac Legpress, deadlift stance
220,260,280x10 3 sec eccentric

Back Extensions
3x20
 
09/25/19 - Wk4, Bench
BW 241.0

Hammers, Facepulls, Vogelpohl Rows
2x20 light

Bench
45,45,95,135x5
185,235x3
270 4x2, 1x5+1

1-Board
235 2x5

Side Raises
30 2x10

DB Rear Flyes
25 2x12

BB Curl
45x8
65,75x5
90x10 PR

Hammercurls
30,35x15

For 10 days on Phera, not impressed with the strength gains, or lack thereof. Hoping something changes because I barely feel any stronger at all for being 8-10lbs up.
 
Hyde said:
09/25/19 - Wk4, Bench
BW 241.0

For 10 days on Phera, not impressed with the strength gains, or lack thereof. Hoping something changes because I barely feel any stronger at all for being 8-10lbs up.
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Hate to hear that. I have never run it so not sure when it should be showing the improvements on strength either.
 
Hyde said:
09/25/19 - Wk4, Bench
BW 241.0

Hammers, Facepulls, Vogelpohl Rows
2x20 light

Bench
45,45,95,135x5
185,235x3
270 4x2, 1x5+1

1-Board
235 2x5

Side Raises
30 2x10

DB Rear Flyes
25 2x12

BB Curl
45x8
65,75x5
90x10 PR

Hammercurls
30,35x15

For 10 days on Phera, not impressed with the strength gains, or lack thereof. Hoping something changes because I barely feel any stronger at all for being 8-10lbs up.
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Ugh, that’s not good. Gonna ride it out or switch orals?
 
MrKleen73 said:
Hate to hear that. I have never run it so not sure when it should be showing the improvements on strength either.
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Me neither. I have been told strength is less than superdrol but as much weight or more due to being so wet. But DMZ works faster than this no doubt. And M1A certainly stronger.

Honestly I got it for a good price so I’m not mad about it but will not reorder in the future likely.

SkRaw85 said:
Ugh, that’s not good. Gonna ride it out or switch orals?
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Definitely ride it out, 3 more weeks on it and don’t need peak strength yet anyway. Just disheartening when I put 5lbs more on the bar on bench 9 days later, decidedly heavier, and can’t even hit the same 6 reps unbroken. Not like I’m using only 50mg Halodrol or something petty.

I will add that I can definitely notice a reduction in DOMS from the 300 test, as well as very good libido and sexual function. Don’t feel too wound up or unhealthy; definitely a mild dose.

I am taking 12.5mg exem twice a week and had to add 20mg Nolva yesterday to keep things happy with all the wetness. Definitely feel pretty squishy, like my arms are full of water.
 
Well then it is doing something. Maybe it will give you the size base you wanted to get and you can increase the CNS efficiency with the finisher! How is BP holding up with the extra water. You may have mentioned it already but I don't remember.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Well then it is doing something. Maybe it will give you the size base you wanted to get and you can increase the CNS efficiency with the finisher! How is BP holding up with the extra water. You may have mentioned it already but I don't remember.
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Yeah that’s what I’m praying for at least.

BP as far as I can tell has been fine. I’m sure it’s elevated some because I wind a bit more easily in training and pulse will be higher then, but through the day I absolutely don’t notice the way I would on any of the serious orals I’ve used. Not using Carditone currently, but if I get discomfort I will.
 
Good deal, I am sure carrying the extra water is also taxing your cardio by just being heavier so quickly.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Good deal, I am sure carrying the extra water is also taxing your cardio by just being heavier so quickly.
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Yeah soon as the test and phera and a dedicated 4k calories daily came on it was like pow 8lbs in 5 days. Been maintaining around that and since I’m already fat I am not going to increase cals unless I don’t gain anything for a week - I suspect 4k is still enough.
 
Hyde said:
Yeah soon as the test and phera and a dedicated 4k calories daily came on it was like pow 8lbs in 5 days. Been maintaining around that and since I’m already fat I am not going to increase cals unless I don’t gain anything for a week - I suspect 4k is still enough.
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Should be, isn't it about 800 calories over your maintenance?
 
09/27/19 - Wk4, Squat
BW 245.6

1/4 mile walk

Bird Dogs
2x10/side

GHR/Push-ups/TRX Fatman Rows
2x12/25/15

Squat
45 2x5
135,225x3
300,355x2
400 4x3, 1x9

SSB
352 3x3

09/28/19 - Squat Accessories
BW 245.8

GM
45 2x12
95 5x10

BB Rows
95,145,205,235x12

BB Shrugs
285 2x15

Incline-Supported DB Rows
70 2x15 go up next time finally

BB Calf Raises
225 5x10

Lifetime best last winter was 405x10 so looking to be back at that next week! Finally starting to feel a bit stronger, let’s hope it keeps coming. Recovery seems better. Added a tab of Carditone every other night starting Thursday.
 
Hyde said:
Hard to say for sure; gaining water so fast. The current amount seems like the right amount if that makes sense.
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Yeah, was just kind of going off of what I see you eat on a regular basis, and in a cut more than thinking of overeating at the moment. I think you are probably right and sticking with it for a bit is a great idea.
 
Nice work on that set of 9 with 400, I don't know that I have ever attempted max reps anywhere near that weight...
 
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