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Giant Sports Protein Spiking, Say it aint So?

HotCarl

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Was Giant Sports really nailed for Protein spiking only 12 g in scoop after claiming 27 g per scoop???? Is there any truth to this, the vanilla is my staple


-HotCarl
 
Yep, sad but true. I love their vanilla and just placed an order for a 5 lb tub but luckily the store owner emailed me about the lawsuit and let me switch it out for another brand.
 
Wuuuut? Snap....how recent of a lawsuit is that? Didn't think they be spiking much more than just few grams worth, not nearly half :doh:
 
schizm said:
Wuuuut? Snap....how recent of a lawsuit is that? Didn't think they be spiking much more than just few grams worth, not nearly half :doh:
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It was filed on 10/29/14 in the Central District of CA. I have a copy but can't figure out how to attach the damn thing!
 
Google: Lazaro Rodriguez v. Giant Sports Products, LLC. It's case 2:14-cv-08378 (sorry, I'm an attorney so posting case numbers is a habit)
 
WOW this is a huge spike, 2 to 4 gramms spike, but more thant half the total of the protein per scoop, this is banana!
 
Bye bye Giant Sports
 
I had it once was terrible, serves them right to cheap the customers. Soon the legitimate protein market will be small.
 
kbayne said:
Bye bye Giant Sports
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Forums are worse than the justice system, Guilty without knowing the facts.

because plaintiff attorneys are looking out for the consumer....

People should be ashamed of themselves taking the word of plaintiff attorneys at face value...
 
USPlabsRep said:
Forums are worse than the justice system, Guilty without knowing the facts.

because plaintiff attorneys are looking out for the consumer....

People should be ashamed of themselves taking the word of plaintiff attorneys at face value...
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I hope yours meet label claims cause I love the chocolate and vanilla flavours
 
Old news. When I read the label, I was upset. From what I know, the person who flavored it flavored the original Myofusion and that Vanilla and Strawberry was amazing.
 
Not surprised if it were true. I never liked that protein though, seemed massively overhyped.
 
USPlabsRep said:
Forums are worse than the justice system, Guilty without knowing the facts.

because plaintiff attorneys are looking out for the consumer....

People should be ashamed of themselves taking the word of plaintiff attorneys at face value...
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Lets see, go with veracity of lawyer who worked hard, passed the bar and underwent rigorous background check or the veracity of supplement companies given all of the wonderful publicity brought on by themselves.

Sadly, someone needs to keep Supp companies in check with these kind of issues.

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Tainted supplements sold after recalls, study says . . .

Among sports enhancement or bodybuilding supplements, 85% of those purchased by the researchers remained adulterated with dangerous compounds, including anabolic steroids, the study found.

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Herbal Supplements Are Often Not What They Seem

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As of early April, the FDA had identified 72 weight loss products that illegally contain at least one active prescription drug.

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amarula said:
I hope yours meet label claims cause I love the chocolate and vanilla flavours
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we brought spiking to the forefront in our marketing. the only company with the balls to do it at the time. we meet all kinds of resistance with magazine publishers.
 
996ttelise said:
Lets see, go with veracity of lawyer who worked hard, passed the bar and underwent rigorous background check or the veracity of supplement companies given all of the wonderful publicity brought on by themselves.

Sadly, someone needs to keep Supp companies in check with these kind of issues.

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Tainted supplements sold after recalls, study says . . .

Among sports enhancement or bodybuilding supplements, 85% of those purchased by the researchers remained adulterated with dangerous compounds, including anabolic steroids, the study found.

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Herbal Supplements Are Often Not What They Seem

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As of early April, the FDA had identified 72 weight loss products that illegally contain at least one active prescription drug.

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pretty weak argument, do you know how many lawyers are disbarred and sanctioned every year?

using press articles to defense is weak as well.

sadly if you believe the press you'll believe anything...
 
The lawyer argument could take up 20 pages on its own. I'm a Plaintiff's attorney and can argue both sides. Yes, many attorneys bring bogus claims each year and there are some pretty steep monetary sanctions for malicious prosecution and abuse of process. Good attorneys know this. It's important to look at who is representing the class in some of these cases. Here, lead counsel appears to be Seeger Weiss LLP which is one of the top class action firms in the country by U.S. News, National Law Journal, etc. Bad apples can grow in any orchard, but I doubt Seeger Weiss would put its reputation on the line by brining a totally bogus claim.

I'm interested to see how this plays out. Unfortunately we do live in a society that usually adopts a "guilty until proven innocent" mentality (which even I am guilty of if you read my above post about it being sad but true), however, the burden of proof is on the plaintiffs so they will be responsible for proving GS broke the law by a preponderance of the evidence.

It makes no sense to base a defense off the fact that you can't believe plaintiff's attorneys because they are just money-hungry because, well, what are supplement companies? Isn't that the point of all business? Lawyers are the same as supplement companies - some succeed by doing things the right way while others look for any means to gain a buck.

Nobody is wrong in stating their own opinion, I just like to play devils advocate every once in awhile. Just my two cents! Okay, I'm gonna go lift now
 
USPlabsRep said:
pretty weak argument, do you know how many lawyers are disbarred and sanctioned every year?

using press articles to defense is weak as well.

sadly if you believe the press you'll believe anything...
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I have been a lawyer for 20 years and primarily defend financial institutions, health care companies and large cap companies in complex and class action litigation. While there are exceptions, most lawyers I have dealt with over the years are honorable. Lawyers also tend to shy away from bogus claims as they are costly and, firms like mine, mount vigorous defenses and refuse to settle crap claims for costs of litigation.

I have also been a professional athlete and taken supplements since the 80s. I am no neophyte regarding supplement industry practices.

As far as regulation, lawyers are held to a much higher and rigorous standing than the supplement industry which is disconcerting since you guys can impact one's health and welfare.

I stand by statement. You guys are doing nothing but driving your industry into the ground. Have been for years.
 
USPlabsRep said:
pretty weak argument, do you know how many lawyers are disbarred and sanctioned every year?

using press articles to defense is weak as well.

sadly if you believe the press you'll believe anything...
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Lol at your last statement. The articles I cited were based on FDA, Journal of American Medical Association and Harvard Medical School. Then we have athletic bodies, WADA and medical professionals examining and evaluating safety and efficacy of products.

Haha, and I am supposed to believe you??? What a toser. I am sure feeling all picked on unfairly after OEP and how's Aegeline working out for you?
 
Is there any other reason for adding extra amino acids to a proton other than spiking? Outside of leucine.
 
996ttelise said:
Lol at your last statement. The articles I cited were based on FDA, Journal of American Medical Association and Harvard Medical School. Then we have athletic bodies, WADA and medical professionals examining and evaluating safety and efficacy of products.

Haha, and I am supposed to believe you??? What a toser. I am sure feeling all picked on unfairly after OEP and how's Aegeline working out for you?
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evaluating safety and efficacy? do some lawyering before tossing and argument out of your butt.

Expected more from a professional with 20 years in the field but some of us don't move much in our field and left to posting semi-ficiton on internet forums.
 
BRUstrong said:
The lawyer argument could take up 20 pages on its own. I'm a Plaintiff's attorney and can argue both sides. Yes, many attorneys bring bogus claims each year and there are some pretty steep monetary sanctions for malicious prosecution and abuse of process. Good attorneys know this. It's important to look at who is representing the class in some of these cases. Here, lead counsel appears to be Seeger Weiss LLP which is one of the top class action firms in the country by U.S. News, National Law Journal, etc. Bad apples can grow in any orchard, but I doubt Seeger Weiss would put its reputation on the line by brining a totally bogus claim.

I'm interested to see how this plays out. Unfortunately we do live in a society that usually adopts a "guilty until proven innocent" mentality (which even I am guilty of if you read my above post about it being sad but true), however, the burden of proof is on the plaintiffs so they will be responsible for proving GS broke the law by a preponderance of the evidence.

It makes no sense to base a defense off the fact that you can't believe plaintiff's attorneys because they are just money-hungry because, well, what are supplement companies? Isn't that the point of all business? Lawyers are the same as supplement companies - some succeed by doing things the right way while others look for any means to gain a buck.

Nobody is wrong in stating their own opinion, I just like to play devils advocate every once in awhile. Just my two cents! Okay, I'm gonna go lift now
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the point was let the evidence unfold before we crucify. And lawyers are not altruistic and watch, they will never have to identify the entire class and the lawyers will pocket most of the money as it will settle early.

I'm also curious why this firm picked a company that has little money. there are much bigger fish in this game. I'm talking companies with revenue in the 100s of millions.

People no longer think for themselves and then post USA today articles without reviewing and questioning the references.
 
USPlabsRep said:
evaluating safety and efficacy? do some lawyering before tossing and argument out of your butt.

Expected more from a professional with 20 years in the field but some of us don't move much in our field and left to posting semi-ficiton on internet forums.
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Your attitude, incessant blame of others and refusal to accept any responsibility is reason enough for me to steer very clear of your products. You sound very reminiscent of Cahill and his minions in mid 2012 as far as deflection and blaming others attitude. Does not inspire much confidence.
 
USPlabsRep said:
the point was let the evidence unfold before we crucify. And lawyers are not altruistic and watch, they will never have to identify the entire class and the lawyers will pocket most of the money as it will settle early.

I'm also curious why this firm picked a company that has little money. there are much bigger fish in this game. I'm talking companies with revenue in the 100s of millions.

People no longer think for themselves and then post USA today articles without reviewing and questioning the references.
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Perhaps they "picked on" them because they believe the company did something wrong. Perhaps they view possible consumer deception as an important issue regardless as to the financial health of the company.

Nevertheless, this should be an easy case to defend if the allegations are false. Either product has what it says it has or it does not. This is not a complicated issue like medical causation of a condition attributable to a product.
 
rob112 said:
Is there any other reason for adding extra amino acids to a proton other than spiking? Outside of leucine.
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Does anyone know this? I wanna know can we just rule out buying any protein with other amigos and stuff in the ingredients. I am assuming so, but I could be wrong.
 
BRUstrong said:
Google: Lazaro Rodriguez v. Giant Sports Products, LLC. It's case 2:14-cv-08378 (sorry, I'm an attorney so posting case numbers is a habit)
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I'm a lawyer in Aus man
 
rob112 said:
Thank you sir. I just wasn't sure if there was any legit reason.

I've been using snicker doodle and freaking love it for taste/value/quality. Great protein.
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Thanks for the support man! Glad you enjoy it so much :)
 
And now...
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GNC lawsuit.

They are cracking down on the industry a bit, which is good for us as companies will be less likely to spike when repercussions are there
 
I heard it being implied that Chromadex was the lab that tested the protein and they also found an incredibly high amount of glycine in the product? Smh.
 
Saw one online retailer announce they won't be selling it anymore and posted a link to the lawsuit....snnnnap!
 
Interesting.
I also think we have a bit more to worry about than amino spiking.

:wave2:
 
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