Dragon13
Active member
If ever I am in New Zealand, I will be sure to heed your advice.
Anyways, /"love fest". Back to TO...
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If ever I am in New Zealand, I will be sure to heed your advice.
Anyways, /"love fest". Back to TO...
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
Dragon13
Active member
It was tongue-in-cheek, but... whoh. Talk about a long distance relationship.
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
Jayhawkk
Legend
Sleep is great on The One. Working on finding a cure to these back pumps i'm getting. Kills any chance on reporting back on speed benefits unfortunately. Working on a Potassium, Niacin, Hawthorne Berry mix to see if that works... That and increasing water intake to levels it should have been at.
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
OzzY SluGGa
Banned
Now THATS whats people wanna see, reports of the AFTER cycle.Its all well an good to be huge and strong for a few weeks, But Thats what I like to read. Balls straight back into action and retained gains. NICE>
cmc
Member
LOL. All you can see is my midsection. One would need to see the FULL picture to make such an assessment
I was just nominated as the Assessment Manager. Please disclose all full pictures for the proper evaluation. :yeah:
MHA
Member
Are you saying if your balls shrink that you are shut down?
That's not true is it? I have only done bold and my nutz were shrunk like at week 2 or 3 and I was still horny azz h€ll! Sh!t, I my nutz just came backlike a month ago and I was done with PCT like 2months ago! Any info????
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
If Levi's testicles atrophied during his cycle, then there would have been some shut down (although to what extent is unknown unless bloods were taken pre, during, and post shrinkage). If they are back to normal size then there is no longer visible shut down (again, bloods would be required to see what was happening physiologically).
Most loggers have seen an enhanced libido or no change in normal libido levels.
Yeah, right. As if THAT would work
Yes. Testicular atrophy occurs as a result of being "shut down". During hormonal (i.e. steroids/PH/DS) cycles the testicles shut down their natural testosterone production as a result of detecting exogenous hormones, shrinking therefore, because they are not active. Once the hormonal products have left your body your natural testosterone production begins again and your testicles return to their normal size.
OzzY SluGGa
Banned
Damn Rosie, you sure are a Testicle expert!:laugh:
MHA
Member
So is that all there is to being shut down, nut shrinkage? Like I said I'm new to PH and DS, but I have heard of people feeling like sh!t and this and that about being shut down. I felt fine the whole time. Like I said my testies shrunk at like week 2 or 3(ran it for 6 week at600mg) but my wood was still hard and was still very horny! And like I said my nuts just started to hang even though I was done with PCT over a month a go and the wood has been hard the whole time.
Should be conserned? That one of the things holding me back from my next cycle.
PS sorry about it not being about the one but I got the one in my stash just waiting to be used!
Should be conserned? That one of the things holding me back from my next cycle.
PS sorry about it not being about the one but I got the one in my stash just waiting to be used!
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
Just part of the job
If you need clarification from the man himself you can always PM him and ask.
So is that all there is to being shut down, nut shrinkage? Like I said I'm new to PH and DS, but I have heard of people feeling like sh!t and this and that about being shut down. I felt fine the whole time. Like I said my testies shrunk at like week 2 or 3(ran it for 6 week at600mg) but my wood was still hard and was still very horny! And like I said my nuts just started to hang even though I was done with PCT over a month a go and the wood has been hard the whole time.
Should be conserned? That one of the things holding me back from my next cycle.
PS sorry about it not being about the one but I got the one in my stash just waiting to be used!
"Shut down" essentially means that your endogenous testosterone production has shut down. Which would cause (but not necessarily and not necessarily all) other signs and symptoms related to low testosterone levels, including, but not limited to: Loss of libido, impotence, increased feelings of irritability or depression, enlarged prostate, lower sperm count and abnomal sperm shape (and can even cause sterility). The extent of one's "shut down" would need to be determined by bloods, as one cannot possibly tell simply by going based on feelings (i.e. mood) or looks (i.e. testicles).
TxTroy
New member
I'm on Day 10 now. With all the talk about people not liking dosing at 4/day and the possibility of diminishing returns vs 3/day, I decided to try dropping down to 3/day for the last 3 days. Here's what I noticed:
First day at 3/day (day 8 of the cycle) the fatigue/lethargy set in hard about 7 or 8 hours after dosing. Since I had this problem the first couple of days of the cycle I figured I would give it a couple of days and see if that passed. The stim effect was greatly reduced at 3 vs 4. I resorted to using Jacked pre-workout to get my energy level back up (I haven't been using any pre-workout energy supps while on cycle except day 1).
Day 2 at 3/day (day 9 of the cycle) the lethargy issue had passed. I was a little tired after work but didn't feel like I would pass out if I sat still for more than 5 minutes like the day before. Energy level during my workout was back up as well but still not what I was getting at 4/day.
Today, Day 3 at 3/day (day 10 of the cycle) I had no noticeable afternoon fatigue. Energy level was constant throughout the day. Workout was intense today, very focused and good energy but I still didn't feel like I was getting as much out of it as I was at 4/day.
Overall, the primary differences for me were slightly less energy later in the day (I workout about 7pm), pumps weren't as quick to come on but once they did they were equally as strong, sweating was actually more pronounced at 3/day (contrary to most others' experience), my appetite wasn't as voracious and the stim feeling wasn't nearly as strong.
So I'll be going back to 4/day for the duration. Having tried 3 now I know that 4 is the better choice for me.
I'm up 8lbs now at 225. Body fat hasn't changed any that I can see. Strength has started to really improve now in the second week. I try to stay in the 8-12 range so I honestly can't say what my 1RM is for any given lift. These are first set numbers. My DB bench is up 10lbs to 95x11 vs pre-TO 85x10. DB Shoulder Press up 5 lbs to 75x12 vs 70x10. Seated rows up 15lbs from 200x9 to 215x11. Literally every lift is up both in reps and weight. I'm starting to be able to see the changes now too. My traps are showing the most improvement so far but I can see it in my arms and shoulders now too. My body fat is too high to see much difference in my back right now and my chest just grows at a snail's pace.
Anyway, to sum it up so far, I love it!
First day at 3/day (day 8 of the cycle) the fatigue/lethargy set in hard about 7 or 8 hours after dosing. Since I had this problem the first couple of days of the cycle I figured I would give it a couple of days and see if that passed. The stim effect was greatly reduced at 3 vs 4. I resorted to using Jacked pre-workout to get my energy level back up (I haven't been using any pre-workout energy supps while on cycle except day 1).
Day 2 at 3/day (day 9 of the cycle) the lethargy issue had passed. I was a little tired after work but didn't feel like I would pass out if I sat still for more than 5 minutes like the day before. Energy level during my workout was back up as well but still not what I was getting at 4/day.
Today, Day 3 at 3/day (day 10 of the cycle) I had no noticeable afternoon fatigue. Energy level was constant throughout the day. Workout was intense today, very focused and good energy but I still didn't feel like I was getting as much out of it as I was at 4/day.
Overall, the primary differences for me were slightly less energy later in the day (I workout about 7pm), pumps weren't as quick to come on but once they did they were equally as strong, sweating was actually more pronounced at 3/day (contrary to most others' experience), my appetite wasn't as voracious and the stim feeling wasn't nearly as strong.
So I'll be going back to 4/day for the duration. Having tried 3 now I know that 4 is the better choice for me.
I'm up 8lbs now at 225. Body fat hasn't changed any that I can see. Strength has started to really improve now in the second week. I try to stay in the 8-12 range so I honestly can't say what my 1RM is for any given lift. These are first set numbers. My DB bench is up 10lbs to 95x11 vs pre-TO 85x10. DB Shoulder Press up 5 lbs to 75x12 vs 70x10. Seated rows up 15lbs from 200x9 to 215x11. Literally every lift is up both in reps and weight. I'm starting to be able to see the changes now too. My traps are showing the most improvement so far but I can see it in my arms and shoulders now too. My body fat is too high to see much difference in my back right now and my chest just grows at a snail's pace.
Anyway, to sum it up so far, I love it!
EasyEJL
Never enough
It might be worthwhile to ask for her research references
Are you saying if your balls shrink that you are shut down?
That's not true is it? I have only done bold and my nutz were shrunk like at week 2 or 3 and I was still horny azz h€ll! Sh!t, I my nutz just came backlike a month ago and I was done with PCT like 2months ago! Any info????
I have talked with someone who was sexually active with no loss of libido or erections during a cycle who got an end of cycle blood test showing a total testosterone level of 20. He had sex the day before and the day after.... So although being shutdown can interrupt libido, its not a 100% correlation.
Jayhawkk
Legend
I haven't noticed any atrophy of my testicles (feeling them right now) 
Sex drive has either been a good bit higher or slightly above normal the entire cycle.
As of right now
Pros
Strength
Muscle Hardness
Vascularity
Libido
Muscle size
Endurance
Energy (roughly 2-3 hours after a dose)
No anger issues
No blood pressure issues
No prostate(going off lack of pain in that area and urination) issues
Cons
Back Pumps
Lethargy
Sex drive has either been a good bit higher or slightly above normal the entire cycle. As of right now
Pros
Strength
Muscle Hardness
Vascularity
Libido
Muscle size
Endurance
Energy (roughly 2-3 hours after a dose)
No anger issues
No blood pressure issues
No prostate(going off lack of pain in that area and urination) issues
Cons
Back Pumps
Lethargy
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
CrownRoyal
CrownRoyal: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/119391-my-first-ph.html
CrownRoyal: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/119391-my-first-ph.html
Day 18 (Thursday) ... (+8.5lbs): <---- woahhh
Ok, I am actually posting this Friday morning (a bit after 12am).. Yesterday (Thursday) I was up 2 LBS on the scale fresh in the morning! What the hell?! This is so exciting, that is a hugeee gain, I can't wait to see what the scale says in the morning
Thursday: Upper Light
Incline Bench (dumbbells) - 4x9 (80lbs) = 5lbs+ / More Reps
Hammer Pulldown/Back Machine - 4x9 (135lbs each side) = More Reps
Flat Bench (dumbbells) - 4x8 (75lbs) = Consistent Strong Reps
Seated Cable Row - 4x8 (plate #16) = 5lbs+
Seated Fly (Cables were broken) - 3x8 (plate #125) = 12.5lbs+
Dumbbell Lateral Raise SS w/ Rear Deltoid Fly - 3x8 (35lbs) ss w/ 3x8 (25lbs) = Consistent Strong Reps
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
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THE ONE
4 week Review
Weight - 219lbs
Body composition and Look
--- Leaning out very nicely, while maintaining my overall weight, which is pretty awesome.
...
Strength
--- i've had some insane days for strength, and i've had days where my strength was just okay. Today was a great day for strength, was curling and doing skullcrushers with a bunch of weight. Back days have been incredibly strong and last weeks chest workout was just insane.
Quality of Training
--- i've had some days where i've been exhausted, but i'm on a very low cal diet and working out incredibly hard. On days where i am full rested, my quality of training is very high.
Mood/Aggression
--- definitely a noticeable change in my irratability. On saturday I was very grumpy and i am quicker to freak out while driving. Could be the low calories, but also could be attributed to THE ONE.
...
Joints
--- i'm taking joint support, and i've been feeling fine.
Overall Sense of Feeling (to include mention of any shut-down or sides)
--- I'm feeling good with THE ONE. I've been able to diet and train very aggressively, while maintaining good weight and noticing a change in full body composition...
I have one more week left, am going to really push myself 100% to see how much fat i can lose while not losing ANY overall weightI was supposed to drop 8lbs in the 5 week cycle, and ending up being +1 while losing a bunch of fat, very impressed so far! Excellent cutting compound!
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
metroba
metroba: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/115625-inarius-metroba-orby.html
metroba: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/workout-logs/115625-inarius-metroba-orby.html
I was planning on making today my last day on TO but Id like to get in another back workout before I end this thing. So tomorrow is the last day. Had a pretty kickass workout with the pops today. I love having my dad there bc I have someone to spot me, especially on Chest days. I did go up in weight on nearly all exercise if not all of them :scratchchin:. Today I did lower reps to focus on strength and power, but just for presses.
Pre w/o - 2 drive, 1g taurine, 2 TO, 2 meltdown
Intra w/o - 1 scoop vassive, 2 scoops xtend, 2 scoops poseidon, 4g BA (ALL GONE!! :rant: Shoulda saved it!!!! :frustrate)
The w/o:
1. Medium incline db press - Finally hittn 80's again!!!!! :wooottt!!!! 50x6, 60x6, 70x6, 80x3 I will be working in the lower rep range for about 2 weeks to keep strength up. Plus I have PRIME :18: So strength may go to 85's! :crosses fingers: My PR on this exercise is 80x4. So just 2 more reps to go for new PR!
2. Spider curls - did 45's today. Which is a 5lb increase on this one!
3. Incline bb press - up 10lbs on this one!
4. P/L preacher curls - 75x8, 90x8, 105x8, 120x5 - I think a 10 increase :think:
5. Viking pec-dec - UP 30 ****ING LBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!:boobies: 170x8, 200x8, 230x8, 260x8, 275x6 :saw: I was sooooo happy about this one! I really wasnt expecting sucha hyuuuge jump on this!
6. Ez bar curls - 70x8, 90x8, 100x6
7. Decline bb press - been like 2 or so years since Ive done this. 135x6, 145x6, 155x6, 165x6 (2 forced) WEAAAAAKKKK!!!! I'll get up there. I have been off bb's for a lonnnng ass time! So I dont expect to be a beast on these.
8. P/L rope preacher curls - 85x8, 100x8, 110x5
9. Elliptical bike - Level 7 for 1 min, 8 for 1 mins, 9 for 1 mins, 10 for 1 mins, level 5 for 1 min
And I'm spent!! Ive eatn a ton today! Taken 2 caps Prime so far today and will take 4 more later on.
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
alwaysgaining
alwaysgaining: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/120852-one-way-squat.html
alwaysgaining: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/120852-one-way-squat.html
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
Levi was planning on getting bloods done when he was finished; not sure what the situation is like now.
Craig should be getting bloods done when he's finished his cycle in a few days.
WhatsaRoid?
Board Sponsor
jeeez what are you doing still awake haha
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
What are YOU still doing awake? It was only 8.38pm when I wrote that, which is between 1.38-3.38am for YOU.
WhatsaRoid?
Board Sponsor
Holy cow, I forgot your not in my time haha. I'm at work planning for my workout later today and upcoming "The One' cycle.
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
Holy cow, I forgot your not in my time haha. I'm at work planning for my workout later today and upcoming "The One' cycle plans.
How could you forget? Iot even in your country, LOL. Anyways, best leave you to your planning; have fun. Look forward to seeing your run of The ONE
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
OzzY SluGGa
Banned
Wont you burn for all eternity in hell Zero if you do this!?:laugh:
Zero V
Well-known member
Well I considered that actually. But IMO it does not lead me into sin, so I dont believe it to be wrong. I believe steroids/PH's were tools that were thrown into a negative light by public stupidity (I am a firm believer in stupidity of the masses). It would be used for personal growth in a field and lifestyle(lifting, excersize) that I love.
Such as drinking, biblicaly speaking (and this depends on the church) drinking is a touchy subject. Church leadership should not touch it (period), but for members it says little or none(as in moderation). I dont think if I drink a smirnoff ice or two I am going to hell... If I drank a whole bottle of tequila(which I have in my past...) then yeah, i am being stupid, will do stupid things, and would probably shame myself.
So for both, it is the abuse or misuse that can make them bad. Not the substance itself. IMO
My church is dead against it, I am not. I take everything with a grain of salt, and find my own path with my father. You know, not all Jesus Freaks are narrow sighted my friend (though I have been overzealous before)
BUT with all due respect I wont respond to anymore posts about such subjects because I will not and shall not waste the space of this thread. You can PM if you want :laugh:
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
Not sure. The sponsored loggers would be (anything else they use has to be approved by AN). The AN crew most probably will. Everyone else you will have to ask (or watch their logs for it).
ilovefish
New member
I'll be using 2nd gear plus dthc and lean xtreme, Starting to wonder if it'll be enough as well its looking like im gonna probably end up with 30 lbs from this cycle im up 21 pounds on day 22 today. I've got 2 weeks left 9 pounds should be nothing but thats a ton of new lbm to hold on to.
I don't feel at all shut down though the boys are still hanging heavy and the same size so we'll see. I'll definatly be watching how the loggers PCT's go.
I don't feel at all shut down though the boys are still hanging heavy and the same size so we'll see. I'll definatly be watching how the loggers PCT's go.
Zero V
Well-known member
21 Pounds in 22 days!?
a pound a day is no joke.
I would be perfectly happy with these gains ^.^
And Guejsn I have been sifting through logs, and seen some of everything lol. Wanting something solid, this will be my first anabolic, and I am not sure whether or not I want to risk getting a SERM to keep nearby.
Noto
New member
I think anyone would be happy with those gains.....
ilovefish
New member
Yeah its pretty crazy im obviously eating like a machine and working my ass off, i can't figure out why some guys can't gain though 10 pounds is cake on this stuff. My weight gain break down has been 10 pounds week 1, 5 pounds week 2, and 6 pounds this past week today is day one of week 4 for me. I'm going for 30 pounds in 5 weeks.
The most amazing thing to me though is i still continue to look leaner everyday....
The most amazing thing to me though is i still continue to look leaner everyday....
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
It's most certainly not a joke at all. And if beta-testing was anything to go by, if PCT is done right, he could keep all but 3-4lb of those gains (if not maintaining them and perhaps gaining some more)!
Well, then, Zero, it's your decision to make. You know what AN recommends re PCT (And this was followed with our beta-testers and the AN reps have no issues doing it). There's nothing wrong with taking precautions. If it's your first anabolic, if you have done ALL youre research, have everything set up so that your cycle will be as 'safe' as possible and all bases are covered and you know WHAT you are doing (and why), then you should be fine.
If you're still unsure then perhaps talk to either Dirk or Don about it.
Noto
New member
I'm the guys who cant gain the 10lbs (hahah) You must eat like a freak. At 3500 calories per pound of body weight, I wouldn't want your grocery bill!!!:spam::spam::spam::spam::spam:
ilovefish
New member
Haha yeah i eat 6 times a day which isnt odd im not doing anything special you just gotta pick the right foods i snack on almonds an peanut butter all day i add like 4-5 tbsp of PB to my shakes its pretty easy actually no idea how many cals im taking in a day id venture to say somewhere around 6-8000 just eat till the scale moves in the direction you want......
ilovefish
New member
Zero V
Well-known member
Natty PB is gold! It helps me overpower my lack of hunger. I am also going to start eating a couple cans of tuna a day. I am in the car all day usually, I need an easy snack.
Nice man, 25 up, and multiplied by tres!Update: tonight pushed 375X3 flat bench. Reference my 350X1 on day 1.
considering I have spent roughly a year and three months reading about anabolics, making up cycles just to practice the balance, and watching logs, noting mistakes, and getting questions ready.
I really dont feel the SERM thing is needed, but I have learned it is better to have it, even if i never use it, than to be one of the lame posts we see in mass in the Anabolics section from a guy saying "HELP, (insert PCT issue here) PLEASE!"
With life being hell, this is the only good thing I am looking forward to for the next 2 years of my life lol. The weights are my consul!
I am waiting for a few logs to finish, then I may still have a couple Q's for Dirk or Don. But I m planning on finding the answers in the logs.
Just being safe, I know I felt the best in my life on Drive/RPM/IGF-2. AN is #1 to on my favorites. I have a good feeling I will make great gains on The One, and then in PCT keep them all and add 3-4 more. This is my goal, and I will not fall short.
Rosie Chee
The Female Terminator
Yes, YOU do DO your homework and research, and I commend you for that.
It never hurts to take precautions. If you feel like you need one, then by all means.
Hey, life is what it is. Why is it "hell" for you? Surely there is SOMEthing in it besides weights (and God) that makes it worth getting up for every day.
Nice to see someone LOOKING for answers and not just asking and expecting them without having done ant prior research themselves first. Aside from that, the AN team is always ready to answer any questions that you may have.
Thanks for the positive feedback
And yes, if PCT is done right, then maintaining and even adding to gains made on-cycle is very possible.Green Lantern
Banned
Anyone thought of pulsing this stuff? I do a full body HIT workout Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. If I were running a good anti-estrogen and test booster, would there be some benefit to dosing 3 caps of The One on M/W/F with my meal preceding the workout? Thanks! -Force