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I know of people using 5 pumps with no real negatives.
Cool when my new order arrives for 4 bottles of exotherm I plan on running up to 6 pumps a day 2, 2, 2, am, pre workout and pre bed pm or would 5 2,1,2 be effective.
 
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6 pumps? Whoa please keep us informed on how it goes. I have yet to go over 3 pumps lol. Might go up next run
 
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Cool when my new order arrives for 4 bottles of exotherm I plan on running up to 6 pumps a day 2, 2, 2, am, pre workout and pre bed pm or would 5 2,1,2 be effective.
The recommended dose is 1 pump 3X per day. So 5 pumps is more than recommended and 6 is 2X the recommended dose. I'm all for this though, I'd love to see if it increases the efficacy at all. Have you run it at 3 pumps before?

Maybe you could do a longer cycle - 4 weeks at 3 pumps, 3 weeks at 5 pumps and 4 weeks at 6 pumps? Or something like that. It ay be interesting to see. Whatever you choose, let us know. I like this stuff and I'm putting it in my 11-KT PCT.
 
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The recommended dose is 1 pump 3X per day. So 5 pumps is more than recommended and 6 is 2X the recommended dose. I'm all for this though, I'd love to see if it increases the efficacy at all. Have you run it at 3 pumps before?

Maybe you could do a longer cycle - 4 weeks at 3 pumps, 3 weeks at 5 pumps and 4 weeks at 6 pumps? Or something like that. It ay be interesting to see. Whatever you choose, let us know. I like this stuff and I'm putting it in my 11-KT PCT.
3 pumps is the max i have used in the past so it will be interesting to see how it works at the higher dosing. I will be starting the run in July.

I am currently using 2 pumps per day 1 am and 1 pre bed.
 
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Excited to see your experience. I think this stuff is about as good as 11-KT for fat loss, and I'm gonna run it at 3 pumps in my PCT in the hopes that I see continued leaning after I come off 11-KT.
 
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Excited to see your experience. I think this stuff is about as good as 11-KT for fat loss, and I'm gonna run it at 3 pumps in my PCT in the hopes that I see continued leaning after I come off 11-KT.
You def will.
 

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does it matter if I apply a pump before or after a workout?
 

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ok, I workout first thing in the morning and after the workout, shower and off to work. so I want to make sure it's full absorbed and I'm not wasting any or taking away from the effects
 
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If it is washed of within 2-3 hours i would apply after morning shower so pores are open to improve absorption.
 
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I stacked 6 pumps of this with 6 caps per day of Follidrone 2 per day for 2 weeks,

Week 1 = a loss of 2.75 pounds

Week 2 = a loss of 1.25 pounds, i have changed visually, i look bigger in size and more ripped, but to make products last longer i have dropped the exotherm down to 4 pumps per day and FD 2 to 4 caps, 2 am and 2 pwo, i will compare results by sunday weekly visual check to see effectiveness, i feel it is excessive to go to crazy with the doses and would rather longer time on at lower doses, also my right elbow has been very sore preventing me from performing single arm tricep extensions and scull crushers despite my consumption of 15 ml per day of omega 3 fish oil.
 
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I stacked 6 pumps of this with 6 caps per day of Follidrone 2 per day for 2 weeks,

Week 1 = a loss of 2.75 pounds

Week 2 = a loss of 1.25 pounds, i have changed visually, i look bigger in size and more ripped, but to make products last longer i have dropped the exotherm down to 4 pumps per day and FD 2 to 4 caps, 2 am and 2 pwo, i will compare results by sunday weekly visual check to see effectiveness, i feel it is excessive to go to crazy with the doses and would rather longer time on at lower doses, also my right elbow has been very sore preventing me from performing single arm tricep extensions and scull crushers despite my consumption of 15 ml per day of omega 3 fish oil.
Wow. 6/6 is a lot! I'm not surprised you're having joint issues.
 
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How many ml is there in 1 pump? Does anyone know?
 
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3 pumps per day = 4.5ml or 26.6 days worth per bottle.
 
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Yes approx 1.5.
 

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Just bought this :) will be my first BLR product. Been using ATP science subcut for a week havent really noticed anything - they have one common ingredient. Its weird though as they recommend using it on fatty deposits but here on AM it is recommended on traps shoulders upper chest
 
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Just bought this :) will be my first BLR product. Been using ATP science subcut for a week havent really noticed anything - they have one common ingredient. Its weird though as they recommend using it on fatty deposits but here on AM it is recommended on traps shoulders upper chest
It depends on the career, and depends on the ingredient panel. Yes, BLR and most other hormonal transdermals
it best to use apply where the skin is thinest and you get the most absorption. This does not apply to fat loss specific
transferals, like those from EvoMuse, which you apply on abs, stomach, love handles, lower back, etc.

Best place for Exotherm would be Shoulders, traps, clavicles, chest, forearms, shins, tops of feet
 

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interesting yellow colour. wasted like a days worth trying to put the pump back down but I guess it has to stay in upright position?

lets put this to the test :)
 
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interesting yellow colour. wasted like a days worth trying to put the pump back down but I guess it has to stay in upright position?

lets put this to the test :)
Once bottle runs out / stops pumping there is still usually 2-3 days worth still left so then i normally open the bottle and then tap it against hands to get out excess, also you could go one step further and use a paint brush to get whats left around edges and very bottom of bottle.
 

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Feeling warm and uncomfortable all day at work lol. Had this pre workout and was drenched in sweat. Theres no way to push the nozzle down is there?
 
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Feeling warm and uncomfortable all day at work lol. Had this pre workout and was drenched in sweat. Theres no way to push the nozzle down is there?
You CAN push the nozzle back down and relock but in my experience you lost alot of product trying to do to.
The heat is from your metabolism rising.
Fat burning machine!
 

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Cant push the nozzle down itll probably spill in my suitcase. Sitting around 14% bf atm
 
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losing 2kg seems like a positive effects to me :)
 

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Cant push the nozzle down itll probably spill in my suitcase. Sitting around 14% bf atm
Can't you take off the pump, then pump it back into the bottle until the pump is dry, then put it back in to lock the nozzle? Or do an application and lock it?
 
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brundel I have been cutting for past 11 weeks using exotherm, I went as high as 6 pumps per day and am now down to 3 pumps as recommended as feel it is the sweet spot in terms of effects.

also I have been running it non stop since April so 5+ months, also for past 11 weeks I have been using viron at 1 cap per day 7 days a week. do you feel estrogen could be too low from the prolonged dose of exotherm and this having any impact on slightly inhibiting fat loss. My joints are quite dry but I have not discomfort / pain.

is it better to run a lower dose e.g. 1 - 2 pumps per day to allow for estrogen levels to rise slightly.
 
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brundel I have been cutting for past 11 weeks using exotherm, I went as high as 6 pumps per day and am now down to 3 pumps as recommended as feel it is the sweet spot in terms of effects.

also I have been running it non stop since April so 5+ months, also for past 11 weeks I have been using viron at 1 cap per day 7 days a week. do you feel estrogen could be too low from the prolonged dose of exotherm and this having any impact on slightly inhibiting fat loss. My joints are quite dry but I have not discomfort / pain.

is it better to run a lower dose e.g. 1 - 2 pumps per day to allow for estrogen levels to rise slightly.
You could try 2 pumps (1 pump twice a day) to see if that works, or you could keep it at 3, and up your dose
of Viron to 2 caps per day.
 

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What bf % are you paul? Wish i had that much money to buy 10 of these at a time :-(
 
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What bf % are you paul? Wish i had that much money to buy 10 of these at a time :-(
Don't know exact bf % but have i currently have all abs, shredz and great all-around vascularity.

I like to go by look not % and diet down until happy with overall appearance.
 
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brundel I have been cutting for past 11 weeks using exotherm, I went as high as 6 pumps per day and am now down to 3 pumps as recommended as feel it is the sweet spot in terms of effects.

also I have been running it non stop since April so 5+ months, also for past 11 weeks I have been using viron at 1 cap per day 7 days a week. do you feel estrogen could be too low from the prolonged dose of exotherm and this having any impact on slightly inhibiting fat loss. My joints are quite dry but I have not discomfort / pain.

is it better to run a lower dose e.g. 1 - 2 pumps per day to allow for estrogen levels to rise slightly.
I think at 2-3 pumps its not overly strong as an AI. Letrone is more of a strong AI and Exotherm is a mixed product with the SV and Cirsium.
Unless your having issues due to low estro I wouldnt worry.
 

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Bought 2 bottles of Exotherm
and 1 bottle of AlphaMax XT to stack with EvoMuse Supernova in November/December.

Is Exotherm 1st 4 weeks, then all 3 for 4 weeks a good route to go?
 
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Bought 2 bottles of Exotherm
and 1 bottle of AlphaMax XT to stack with EvoMuse Supernova in November/December.

Is Exotherm 1st 4 weeks, then all 3 for 4 weeks a good route to go?
i dont see why you couldnt do it that way.

No conflicts that i can see ;)
 
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Very informative thread. I came across these products while looking for an AI to stack with Evomuse Testruction. Originally I thought I'd use Letrone with it but Exotherm looks pretty awesome. I will be running this in the spring so cutting will be the main goal. I have 2 bottles of testruction so my options are:

Testruction and letrone for 8 weeks
Testruction and exotherm for 8 weeks
Testruction and letrone for 4 weeks and then finish with Testruction and exotherm last 4 weeks.

I made my own thread and some members mentioned stretching the overall run to 12 weeks and said I should be fine. 8 weeks Testruction and letrone and finish 4 more weeks with exotherm.

I headed letrone is powerful so not sure if I should dose 1 or 2 caps. Looking for some advice from the knowledgable people around here.

Thanks!
 

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Exotherm worked just fine for me. No estro sides from testruction. Fat burner and AI cant complain :)
 

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Approximately 3 weeks. Jumped on andros now so put that on hold
 
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I dont see any reason you cant run the 8 weeks of Letrone and then 4 of Exotherm.
Id run them both at tops end dose.
1x letrone twice daily
1x Exotherm 3x daily.
 
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I dont see any reason you cant run the 8 weeks of Letrone and then 4 of Exotherm.
Id run them both at tops end dose.
1x letrone twice daily
1x Exotherm 3x daily.
Cool, thanks for the reply. You don't think I will run the risk of lowering estro too much by extending the run with Exo?
 
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Cool, thanks for the reply. You don't think I will run the risk of lowering estro too much by extending the run with Exo?
I doubt it. Exotherm is very mild ad an ai. Will be fine.
 
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I doubt it. Exotherm is very mild ad an ai. Will be fine.
Awesome, thank you. I am adding 2-4 bottles of Follidrone 2.0 to my order after reading tons of positive things about it. Definitely want to take advantage of the sale.

It seems from the logs that it gives great lean mass gains even when eating close to maintenance; however, I wanted to use it on my cut. I am sure it will help retain muscle and even allow more of a recomp but now I am second guessing myself wondering if it would be best used on a bulk. If money wasn't an issue I'd use it for both lol

Can you offer any insights or any feedback from people who ran a hard cut on it?
 
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Awesome, thank you. I am adding 2-4 bottles of Follidrone 2.0 to my order after reading tons of positive things about it. Definitely want to take advantage of the sale.

It seems from the logs that it gives great lean mass gains even when eating close to maintenance; however, I wanted to use it on my cut. I am sure it will help retain muscle and even allow more of a recomp but now I am second guessing myself wondering if it would be best used on a bulk. If money wasn't an issue I'd use it for both lol

Can you offer any insights or any feedback from people who ran a hard cut on it?
There are alot of guys who have used it during a cut.
Its great for fat loss and hardening. Also because its a non stimulant formula it can be stacked with all kinds of other fat burners.
 
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There are alot of guys who have used it during a cut.
Its great for fat loss and hardening. Also because its a non stimulant formula it can be stacked with all kinds of other fat burners.
Thanks. Finished my order and can't wait until late winter/early spring when I run all this. At least I have a lot of time to figure out exactly what I am going to do but it is going to involve:

Testruction
Letrone
Exotherm
Follidrone 2.0
Tr1umph
Brite
Absolutely Abliderated
Eviscerate
Supernova
And Possibly BMP if I can get a hold of it.

I think I am going to log it too. If I do, I will be sure to post a link to it.
 

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Thanks. Finished my order and can't wait until late winter/early spring when I run all this. At least I have a lot of time to figure out exactly what I am going to do but it is going to involve:

Testruction
Letrone
Exotherm
Follidrone 2.0
Tr1umph
Brite
Absolutely Abliderated
Eviscerate
Supernova
And Possibly BMP if I can get a hold of it.

I think I am going to log it too. If I do, I will be sure to post a link to it.
A lot of overlap there, especially the evomuse topical. Hope you're spreading it out.
 
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A lot of overlap there, especially the evomuse topical. Hope you're spreading it out.
It will be spread yes. But the Evomuse topicals are localized while exotherm is systemic if I'm correct. Exotherm does seem to have a small localized effect as well but is recommended to be put on shoulders, chest and other thin skinned areas for absorption where as the Evomuse ones will just be going on my stomach and sides.
 

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It will be spread yes. But the Evomuse topicals are localized while exotherm is systemic if I'm correct. Exotherm does seem to have a small localized effect as well but is recommended to be put on shoulders, chest and other thin skinned areas for absorption where as the Evomuse ones will just be going on my stomach and sides.
I meant the evomuse topicals overlap. I've used everything on that list but letrone and testruction. Just making sure it's not one humongous and pricey stack.
 
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I meant the evomuse topicals overlap. I've used everything on that list but letrone and testruction. Just making sure it's not one humongous and pricey stack.
Also Supernova is supposed to have the fat burning qualities of regular Eviscerate and Absolutely Alliterated combined along with effects on beige / brown fat similar to BRITE but localized, i feel it would be better to just run with more bottles of Supernova.
 

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