Excelsior pre workout

It's a company that offers all those crap options for social media influencers. To get in shape and then make 1,000,000 social media posts.

I tested the product and personally urine screened a client who consumed it and she tested positive in the urine test too.

Maybe they wanted to beat excelsior lol
Damn
 
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I gotta update you guys

I just tested a pwo, a two containers and it tested positive for amphetamines, crystal meth and some other stuff.

It's a big name company too.

I don't feel like being sued but I assure u this stuff must have been one hell of a pwo , I have not had it but tested two jugs due to clients complaining of insomnia and addictive style behaviors with it.

Craziness...

I'm tempted to test one more straight from the manufacturer.

The first two were both from Amazon...so I wanna find out before I say anything.

Stay tuned.

And oh yeah anyone doubting me, remember I'm the first person who introduced this entire forum to Excelsior...so I kinda stumbled on all the good stuff 🤣🤣🤪

No PMs asking me what it is please..ty
Come on gives us a name
 
Ok... But again, the reviews just seem to be mixed. Nothing that would make me think something was up with it.
Average person ordering off Amazon would think a caffeine pre workout is just supposed to feel like meth lol. It’s the only company on Amazon that has a silly social influencer thing like @WesleyInman said. This is just my investigation of the matter
 
It's a company that offers all those crap options for social media influencers. To get in shape and then make 1,000,000 social media posts.

I tested the product and personally urine screened a client who consumed it and she tested positive in the urine test too.

Maybe they wanted to beat excelsior lol
Don’t tease us like this, bro. DM somebody who can independently “verify” and will post about it. I’ll do it IDGAF
 
I gotta update you guys

I just tested a pwo, a two containers and it tested positive for amphetamines, crystal meth and some other stuff.

It's a big name company too.

I don't feel like being sued but I assure u this stuff must have been one hell of a pwo , I have not had it but tested two jugs due to clients complaining of insomnia and addictive style behaviors with it.

Craziness...

I'm tempted to test one more straight from the manufacturer.

The first two were both from Amazon...so I wanna find out before I say anything.

Stay tuned.

And oh yeah anyone doubting me, remember I'm the first person who introduced this entire forum to Excelsior...so I kinda stumbled on all the good stuff 🤣🤣🤪

No PMs asking me what it is please..ty
Give us a better hint, bro
 
I gotta update you guys

I just tested a pwo, a two containers and it tested positive for amphetamines, crystal meth and some other stuff.

It's a big name company too.

I don't feel like being sued but I assure u this stuff must have been one hell of a pwo , I have not had it but tested two jugs due to clients complaining of insomnia and addictive style behaviors with it.

Craziness...

I'm tempted to test one more straight from the manufacturer.

The first two were both from Amazon...so I wanna find out before I say anything.

Stay tuned.

And oh yeah anyone doubting me, remember I'm the first person who introduced this entire forum to Excelsior...so I kinda stumbled on all the good stuff 🤣🤣🤪

No PMs asking me what it is please..ty

Hey man, good to see you on here again and hope you've been doing well. Any chance you can at least give us a hint on the PWO in question... Please? LOL
 
Could be Bucked Up or even Gorilla Mind based on Wesley's descriptions
 
Could be Bucked Up or even Gorilla Mind based on Wesley's descriptions

What are they like ? That bucked up one has a lot of good reviews . Mind you just reading Mother Bucker Pre-Workout seems to be better ? Who thinks of these bloody names !
 
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Btw man how are u! It's good to see ya, I haven't been around much lately. Mega busy w work and a wonderful custody battle (sarcasm)

It's good to see some of the old crew here
Why don’t you post it? If that’s your real name I get it but give us crackheads a clue ffs lol
 
What I meant to say guys is I tested 2 bottles and they were both from good clients, and both had the same pwo.

The clue I can give you is that if you open it and smell it if causes many people to cough horribly. There in fact are videos out about a "preworkout" on tik tok and IG causing this to happen. I do not intend to sell or promote it.

Oddly what I forgot to mention is that one of the tests, it tested positive for methadone too. Odd.

I have never in my years seen that before.

But I do admit I am kinda shocked to have seen this happen not in just 1 but 2 cases. But neither have been manufacturer direct. I do admit that I tried the thing where you open it and see if you cough and it is true. It happened to me both times and it almost causes a "tren cough" type cough if that makes sense. not just a little cough that you might get from inhaling some powder.

I def don't like what I see so far but guys I have done this for 29+ years, I started at GNC in 1996. I know better then to ruin a companys rep or get myself sued. For all I know someone, a reshipper at amazon could have tainted it. I have seen it all that I know not to simply put this out there without dotting my i's and crossing my "t"s.

The excelsior I was cool with sharing and promoting, it was def a designer in there imo but it was safe. This product I am talking about that is tainted, I would never feel safe recommending with an upper and downers in it. My plan is once I get a batch on my own, brand new and test it, if it comes up again I will alert the brand.

If it doesn't maybe I will try ordering one from amazon from where my clients got theres.

I also am in the tail end of a nasty custody dispute over my youngest daughter which is why I have barely been on here guys, so that is my priority tbh. But I give you my word I am telling the truth about this other PRE.

I hate stumbling on crap like this because I feel responsible. When I was a kid working in GNC and we found out HOT STUFF was full of dbol and that Ultimate Orange had ephedra and clen in it, I was like "hell yeah". Now at 46 years old I feel like I wanna make sure you guys are all being safe. "GET OFF MY LAWN" LOL.
 
I've searched pretty exhaustively on TikTok for what the PWO might be using various combinations of terms like "preworkout," "cough," and so on, but none of my searches have returned any product-specific results. Has anyone else had any luck?
 
I've searched pretty exhaustively on TikTok for what the PWO might be using various combinations of terms like "preworkout," "cough," and so on, but none of my searches have returned any product-specific results. Has anyone else had any luck?
Nothing. Seriously, any pre-workout could make you cough if you open it and the particles come flying out.
 
Nothing. Seriously, any pre-workout could make you cough if you open it and the particles come flying out.

Yeah, and as a matter of fact, the only search results I'm getting on TikTok are for videos in which the host talks in general terms about the risks involved with inhaling preworkout powder (duh) without mentioning any specific product names.
 
The brand starts with a number.

If someone tainted bottles outside the manufacturer and I stumbled onto that and it was not the manufacturers fault I could be sued indefinitenly. Its a tough situation to be in. I did another test of the L_Carnitine powder they sell and it popped for amphetamines. With that being said, DMAA, ephedrine, and many LEGAL compounds can test positive for amphetamines. This one was not a gas chromography.

I may send a sample of one of these over to Janoshik and see what he says, just for the safety of people.

I don't want u guys buying it. Potentially dangerous friends, I know some of you will figure this out and this is not my intent. Stick with the Excelsior guys. I have used that for many many many years and even with whatever designer it has I feel it is tolerable when not abused. I never use the word "safe" when talking about amphtamines. People have died from Ephedrine and I love that stuff personally. Abuse and dehydration do not mix.

Anyways sorry to sidetrack this thread.

Whats' the deal with the new excelsior and where are you guys buying this Thermal Spark? I wanna try the most recent version.

Oh and talking "designers", just an FYI, just bc you don't test positive on a drug test doesn't mean something is not in there. I have guys in Hong Kong and I have regularly seen several amphetamine derivatives that are as potent as RECs and will not show in any lab or drug test and won't pop you for a positive. I give you my word they are out there. I can name several but I will not on this forum.

Some of you guys need Rehab and God. Well we all need God :)
 
The brand starts with a number.

If someone tainted bottles outside the manufacturer and I stumbled onto that and it was not the manufacturers fault I could be sued indefinitenly. Its a tough situation to be in. I did another test of the L_Carnitine powder they sell and it popped for amphetamines. With that being said, DMAA, ephedrine, and many LEGAL compounds can test positive for amphetamines. This one was not a gas chromography.

I may send a sample of one of these over to Janoshik and see what he says, just for the safety of people.

I don't want u guys buying it. Potentially dangerous friends, I know some of you will figure this out and this is not my intent. Stick with the Excelsior guys. I have used that for many many many years and even with whatever designer it has I feel it is tolerable when not abused. I never use the word "safe" when talking about amphtamines. People have died from Ephedrine and I love that stuff personally. Abuse and dehydration do not mix.

Anyways sorry to sidetrack this thread.

Whats' the deal with the new excelsior and where are you guys buying this Thermal Spark? I wanna try the most recent version.

Oh and talking "designers", just an FYI, just bc you don't test positive on a drug test doesn't mean something is not in there. I have guys in Hong Kong and I have regularly seen several amphetamine derivatives that are as potent as RECs and will not show in any lab or drug test and won't pop you for a positive. I give you my word they are out there. I can name several but I will not on this forum.

Some of you guys need Rehab and God. Well we all need God :)
Ah so six star or 5% nutrition. Leaning towards 5150. Would be bold indeed for a company that sells products at Walmart (six star) to be putting stuff in so that leads me to 5%.
 
Also @WesleyInman i don’t think you can be sued for thinking something about a product and letting it be known. Verbiage is everything… “I’m not sure…it could have…it might have…maybe…”. Pretty sure basic speculation is covered under first amendment (for now 😬 we will see what happens nov 5)
 
Ah so six star or 5% nutrition. Leaning towards 5150. Would be bold indeed for a company that sells products at Walmart (six star) to be putting stuff in so that leads me to 5%.
Neither of those but guys please don't say what it is if you figure it out.

Again, there are alot of snakes in this industry. For all I know someone at the Amazon warehouse or elsewhere could be tampering with or tainting the products to harm the company.

I have nothing against the company at all tbh, they are not my favorite with their social media advertising style, but I respect all brands and people who have worked their way up from scratch.

Please don't compromise me if you figure it out. If I test it at Janoshik, more then one batch and it is still tainted then I will list the brand and item after I contact the company.

I have never seen something test for Methadone. No way in hell that can be intentional by the brand IMO.

Craziness.
 
Neither of those but guys please don't say what it is if you figure it out.

Again, there are alot of snakes in this industry. For all I know someone at the Amazon warehouse or elsewhere could be tampering with or tainting the products to harm the company.

I have nothing against the company at all tbh, they are not my favorite with their social media advertising style, but I respect all brands and people who have worked their way up from scratch.

Please don't compromise me if you figure it out. If I test it at Janoshik, more then one batch and it is still tainted then I will list the brand and item after I contact the company.

I have never seen something test for Methadone. No way in hell that can be intentional by the brand IMO.

Craziness.
Methadone actually anecdotally increases sensitivity to stimulants.
 
Yes sir but why not just add some Grapefruit extract LOL
Pain relief add in? Have a bunch of kitchen sink stims and add methadone so you feel no pain and stims hit harder? That’s my guess. Basically what the nazis we’re doing with the d-ix pill (5mg oxycodone, 5mg cocaine, 5mg meth-amphetamine
 
Pain relief add in? Have a bunch of kitchen sink stims and add methadone so you feel no pain and stims hit harder? That’s my guess. Basically what the nazis we’re doing with the d-ix pill (5mg oxycodone, 5mg cocaine, 5mg meth-amphetamine
They are probably trying to one up the nazis lol 😂
 
Neither of those but guys please don't say what it is if you figure it out.

Again, there are alot of snakes in this industry. For all I know someone at the Amazon warehouse or elsewhere could be tampering with or tainting the products to harm the company.

I have nothing against the company at all tbh, they are not my favorite with their social media advertising style, but I respect all brands and people who have worked their way up from scratch.

Please don't compromise me if you figure it out. If I test it at Janoshik, more then one batch and it is still tainted then I will list the brand and item after I contact the company.

I have never seen something test for Methadone. No way in hell that can be intentional by the brand IMO.

Craziness.

Wonder if is testing similiar to craze??
 
See it on PN

Anybody recommend this or have experience ?
Tried it years ago if you mean Imperial Nutrition Excelsior, when I was on that good stuff like Dark Labs crack and flame and tried all the hitters.

It feels like u took a **** ton of Sudafed (pseudoephedrine) def labels are just labels in the words of TJ
 
The brand starts with a number.

If someone tainted bottles outside the manufacturer and I stumbled onto that and it was not the manufacturers fault I could be sued indefinitenly. Its a tough situation to be in. I did another test of the L_Carnitine powder they sell and it popped for amphetamines. With that being said, DMAA, ephedrine, and many LEGAL compounds can test positive for amphetamines. This one was not a gas chromography.

I may send a sample of one of these over to Janoshik and see what he says, just for the safety of people.

I don't want u guys buying it. Potentially dangerous friends, I know some of you will figure this out and this is not my intent. Stick with the Excelsior guys. I have used that for many many many years and even with whatever designer it has I feel it is tolerable when not abused. I never use the word "safe" when talking about amphtamines. People have died from Ephedrine and I love that stuff personally. Abuse and dehydration do not mix.

Anyways sorry to sidetrack this thread.

Whats' the deal with the new excelsior and where are you guys buying this Thermal Spark? I wanna try the most recent version.

Oh and talking "designers", just an FYI, just bc you don't test positive on a drug test doesn't mean something is not in there. I have guys in Hong Kong and I have regularly seen several amphetamine derivatives that are as potent as RECs and will not show in any lab or drug test and won't pop you for a positive. I give you my word they are out there. I can name several but I will not on this forum.

Some of you guys need Rehab and God. Well we all need God :)

Wait, so there are other PWOs out there that likely contain amphetamine-like compounds? Can we have hints as to their names as well? :)
 
Wait, so there are other PWOs out there that likely contain amphetamine-like compounds? Can we have hints as to their names as well? :)
Yeah

I like Dark Labs its real DMAA and DMHA like old school jacked 3d, alot of places sell it i like suppscentral good people over there
 
Leaning towards 1st Phorm. But they have multiple pre's and I don't think they are on Amazon.
 
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Hi tech pharmaceuticals has multiple products that contain the stimulant that was in Craze and Excelsior. Lot cheaper than $120
 
I’m leaning to 1up now but again not on Amazon. I went through all pre workouts on Amazon and the only companies starting with a number are 5% and Six Star

1up doesn't do carnitine powder, at least not what I can find. 1st Phorm does.

Project-1 looks to be the stronger of the 1st Phorm pre workouts.

But again, 1st Phorm isn't sold on Amazon. Local shop near me sells it though.
 
I’m leaning to 1up now but again not on Amazon. I went through all pre workouts on Amazon and the only companies starting with a number are 5% and Six Star

IF it is 1st Phorm, they don't do Amazon. So if it was being sold on Amazon, that should be a red flag right there.
 
I'm done chasing rainbows and pots of gold..... Just got in touch with predator they have 6/26 excelsior and 12/26 thermal spark any one tried these lately?
How is the new batch of doomsday? Or doomsday hardcore? I also saw they have a new flavor of barbarian...
 
Leaning towards 1st Phorm. But they have multiple pre's and I don't think they are on Amazon.
They sell carnitine powder so lets all buy the preworkout and carnitine boys and hope Wesley isn't secretly working for them and he's come up with an insane marketing tactic to get us junkies buying it while telling us not to lol. Junkies never listen to that ****.
 
I'm done chasing rainbows and pots of gold..... Just got in touch with predator they have 6/26 excelsior and 12/26 thermal spark any one tried these lately?
How is the new batch of doomsday? Or doomsday hardcore? I also saw they have a new flavor of barbarian...
They only got one batch in of both I was told
 
They sell carnitine powder so lets all buy the preworkout and carnitine boys and hope Wesley isn't secretly working for them and he's come up with an insane marketing tactic to get us junkies buying it while telling us not to lol. Junkies never listen to that ****.
But Wes said it was purchased from Amazon. Which makes no sense because 1st Phorm does not sell on Amazon. So if it's 1st Phorm and sold on Amazon, who ever was selling it was tainting with the product and nothing you would buy direct or from an authorized retailer would have the dirty stuff.

If Wes could just confirm it was 1st Phorm, I guarantee it was just the seller.
 
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