Excelsior pre workout

I never tried the original. But the one that predator got now, gave me too fast heart rate and sense of being restless

That’s a horrible feeling I’ve got that occasionally with Doomsday - not happy with the latest one I bought . Seems to be like that ,and I’ve been Impressed with various tubs . It’s like they have different t batch’s . Very annoying
 
That’s a horrible feeling I’ve got that occasionally with Doomsday - not happy with the latest one I bought . Seems to be like that ,and I’ve been Impressed with various tubs . It’s like they have different t batch’s . Very annoying
You’re not happy with which your recent product?
 
Doomsday hardcore hasn’t been super enjoyable. It works, but even at a 1/4 a scoop just feels a bit dirty. Not clean like the OG. Have only tried the tub twice but that’s my thought so far
 
Doomsday hardcore hasn’t been super enjoyable. It works, but even at a 1/4 a scoop just feels a bit dirty. Not clean like the OG. Have only tried the tub twice but that’s my thought so far

That’s not a nice feeling , prefer a clean euphoric feel from a pre . Won’t be buying the hardcore . I think with the original there are different batch’s possibly . Who knows , I get the same thing with hydrazine . Some feel like duds
I’ve had mostly good workouts from the original doomsday. I’ll keep at it . I’m sure it will be gone soon
 
Doomsday hardcore hasn’t been super enjoyable. It works, but even at a 1/4 a scoop just feels a bit dirty. Not clean like the OG. Have only tried the tub twice but that’s my thought so far

I've noticed that Doomsday Hardcore causes the same kind of teeth clenching effect 1-2 hours after taking a dose like the stronger Excelsior tubs cause. Makes me wonder if they might both have the same "active ingredient."
 
I've noticed that Doomsday Hardcore causes the same kind of teeth clenching effect 1-2 hours after taking a dose like the stronger Excelsior tubs cause. Makes me wonder if they might both have the same "active ingredient."

Do you think that predators , excelsior , hydrazine , Dooomsday etc are all from the same source with similar mixes?
 
Doomsday hardcore hasn’t been super enjoyable. It works, but even at a 1/4 a scoop just feels a bit dirty. Not clean like the OG. Have only tried the tub twice but that’s my thought so far
I have only tried Doomsday hardcore twice also. To me it feels like the same active unlisted focus ingredient in OG Doomsday. I think they just added a ton of caffeine to it in the hardcore and the OG is has very minimal caffeine. Just my initial thoughts. I will update after I use my tub more.
 
Not sure, I haven't researched much feedback on it

I have some old 4/24 Thermal Spark that is straight 🔥. The first batch Predator released last year was close, maybe 3/4 strength of the old ones. I just got some new 1/27 and it’s crap. The new ones are maybe half as strong. I’ve been meaning to try two caps but haven’t gotten around to it. I don’t feel much off one cap of these.
 
I have some old 4/24 Thermal Spark that is straight 🔥. The first batch Predator released last year was close, maybe 3/4 strength of the old ones. I just got some new 1/27 and it’s crap. The new ones are maybe half as strong. I’ve been meaning to try two caps but haven’t gotten around to it. I don’t feel much off one cap of these.

I don't think the most recent Excelsior batches are still as strong as the OG batches, either. I bought my first tub back in March 2020 and the euphoria and energy were great (but also smooth/no jitters), so I'm not sure if the latest Thermal Spark batches are lousy for the same reason
 
I have some old 4/24 Thermal Spark that is straight . The first batch Predator released last year was close, maybe 3/4 strength of the old ones. I just got some new 1/27 and it’s crap. The new ones are maybe half as strong. I’ve been meaning to try two caps but haven’t gotten around to it. I don’t feel much off one cap of these.

Same. Thermal spark 04/24 was straight fire. I got them off eBay last year around Oct/Nov. I used 3 bottles back to back to back, and they all hit nicely. The first week of me trying it was stronger, but even then it was nice after 3 weeks. Euphoria was really nice and got me in chill mode. Gym focus was superb too. But then the thermal spark I bought from PN during Black Friday last year has been really weak. No euphoria, lack of energy to work out. This was with two pills too. Feels like the first batch of hydrazine black pills. Hydrazine black pills first batch was garbage… afterwards they started smacking pretty good. But now they changed it back to white pills.. I bought one bottle last week to try them. OG hydrazine was realllly good too. If they are good I will order more lol.
 
Interested to hear what the new white hydrazine is like . Haven’t tried the latest , the original white ones were nearly like an aphrodisiac ! Black are meh
 
Thread dead ? Has everyone overdone the excelsior experience ?

Not at all, just been on vacation for the past week. Actually ordered 2 new tubs recently that were just delivered the day before I left. Haven't opened the package yet to check lot #'s but look forward to doing so when I get back. First dose from the new tubs is probably going to be on Wednesday night.

Is everyone else in the thread still using Excelsior?
 
Not at all, just been on vacation for the past week. Actually ordered 2 new tubs recently that were just delivered the day before I left. Haven't opened the package yet to check lot #'s but look forward to doing so when I get back. First dose from the new tubs is probably going to be on Wednesday night.

Is everyone else in the thread still using Excelsior?
Yes sir!!! Let us know what lot /exp you got on those loving these 8/26 and 6/26
 
Where are people finding this in the US
The only site I found was Predator
Please let me know where I can order from
Thanks
 
What exp does your thermals have 8 have about 10b4/24s left then all gone

Man 4/24 TS were awesome. Use them wisely. New thermal is mid. Will try new bottle later on. Right now currently have white pill hydrazine… honestly is also mid. I think hydrazine black pills we’re getting better. The white hydrazine is weaker in my opinion. I’m currently on my 2nd bottle of hydrazine. The first bottle of hydrazine was from predator and second is from ruesco. Not much difference. I’m looking to try my 07/26 excelsior
 
My thermal spark bottle is the newest one and it is indeed weaker. 3 pills give me the same effects as 2 from when they were re-released back on PN’s website
 
Not at all, just been on vacation for the past week. Actually ordered 2 new tubs recently that were just delivered the day before I left. Haven't opened the package yet to check lot #'s but look forward to

Where are people finding this in the US
The only site I found was Predator
Please let me know where I can order from
Thanks
Predator ships to the US.
You can also find it on eBay for a similar price
 
Received my white Hydrazine, not great, not crap either but nowhere near the original whites , shame really had high hopes the whites would come back with a bang . Gone through them all at this stage .
Like why do they keep changing formulas on the sly .
Have a few old original Thermals Spark I mite try again . Presume they don’t go off ?
 
Since 2021 Excelsior has definitely changed formula from the original formula. I've bought 3 batches in past 3 years. None have felt like batches I bought between 2017-2021. N-Methyl-B-Methylphenyl-ethylamine hcl is what I suspect was in OG Excelsior that since been removed. It was in the OG Craze 10 years ago as well. New batch is definitely not worth $120 for a tub.
 
Hasn't been the same in three years, yet here you guys are consistently buying new, overpriced tubs, knowing damn well it won't be the same.
 
Man 4/24 TS were awesome. Use them wisely. New thermal is mid. Will try new bottle later on. Right now currently have white pill hydrazine… honestly is also mid. I think hydrazine black pills were getting better. The white hydrazine is weaker in my opinion. I’m currently on my 2nd bottle of hydrazine. The first bottle of hydrazine was from predator and second is from ruesco. Not much difference. I’m looking to try my 07/26 excelsior
I still have six sealed bottles of 4/24 Thermals. They hit like a goddamn truck.
 
The secret is taking somatomax/phenibut the night before for a good night's sleep and excelsior or thermal spark will hit twice as hard so you can take half the dose you usually take
 
I gotta update you guys

I just tested a pwo, a two containers and it tested positive for amphetamines, crystal meth and some other stuff.

It's a big name company too.

I don't feel like being sued but I assure u this stuff must have been one hell of a pwo , I have not had it but tested two jugs due to clients complaining of insomnia and addictive style behaviors with it.

Craziness...

I'm tempted to test one more straight from the manufacturer.

The first two were both from Amazon...so I wanna find out before I say anything.

Stay tuned.

And oh yeah anyone doubting me, remember I'm the first person who introduced this entire forum to Excelsior...so I kinda stumbled on all the good stuff 🤣🤣🤪

No PMs asking me what it is please..ty
 
I gotta update you guys

I just tested a pwo, a two containers and it tested positive for amphetamines, crystal meth and some other stuff.

It's a big name company too.

I don't feel like being sued but I assure u this stuff must have been one hell of a pwo , I have not had it but tested two jugs due to clients complaining of insomnia and addictive style behaviors with it.

Craziness...

I'm tempted to test one more straight from the manufacturer.

The first two were both from Amazon...so I wanna find out before I say anything.

Stay tuned.

And oh yeah anyone doubting me, remember I'm the first person who introduced this entire forum to Excelsior...so I kinda stumbled on all the good stuff 🤣🤣🤪

No PMs asking me what it is please..ty
Can you at least give us a hint? LOL
 
Can you at least give us a hint? LOL
It's a company that offers all those crap options for social media influencers. To get in shape and then make 1,000,000 social media posts.

I tested the product and personally urine screened a client who consumed it and she tested positive in the urine test too.

Maybe they wanted to beat excelsior lol
 
Can you at least give us a hint? LOL
Btw man how are u! It's good to see ya, I haven't been around much lately. Mega busy w work and a wonderful custody battle (sarcasm)

It's good to see some of the old crew here
 
Btw man how are u! It's good to see ya, I haven't been around much lately. Mega busy w work and a wonderful custody battle (sarcasm)

It's good to see some of the old crew here

Still training so can't complain. Good to see you back on here posting. Hope all is well with you.

If it's a mainstream company, I'm surprised word hasn't spread about it.
 
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