Excelsior pre workout

Yeah man I have used it.

Its solid. Definitely potent.

I have a client that uses this and only this specifically because it does not give him jitters, shakes or spiked BP like many other pre's do.

Definitely a solid stimulant formula imo-
 
Cheers , yeah think I’ll press buy . You know that feeling where you buy a pre and it’s complete crap . I’ll blame you
 
If you wanted the just overall strongest thing going imo...

It would be Wicked by Innovative Labs or even ESP. Those are insanely strong but I don't like either of them. They literally affect my hearing, vision...its pretty much like a small dose of speed and then some.

If I had to choose those or excelsior, the Excelsior would be my choice with ease. It is a performance product. Not just crack. Hope this helps.
 
Bernardhopkin said:
I’ve used ESP with the amp citrate . And it was very good . Are you talking about the reformulated one after that ?
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ESP/AMP was a great pre especially when using the bigger scoop

I want to pick up centurion labs G.O.W red next I think I prefer amp over DMHA/DMAA
 
DEVANS89 said:
ESP/AMP was a great pre especially when using the bigger scoop

I want to pick up centurion labs G.O.W red next I think I prefer amp over DMHA/DMAA
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I do not recommend this product, it ended in the bathroom as my money : no effect
I would take Arez white if you support yohimbine and if not Re1Gn but the US version because for me the EU ver is not as good
 
Kiri said:
I do not recommend this product, it ended in the bathroom as my money : no effect
I would take Arez white if you support yohimbine and if not Re1Gn but the US version because for me the EU ver is not as good
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Interesting...

I don’t think I could get arez I live in the UK
Yeah I’ve got a tub of US re1gn but I’m not really that keen on the stim x


However is it the OG dragons mist version
 
WesleyInman said:
Yeah man I have used it.

Its solid. Definitely potent.

I have a client that uses this and only this specifically because it does not give him jitters, shakes or spiked BP like many other pre's do.

Definitely a solid stimulant formula imo-
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Can you buy from supplement store in U.S. ? I can only find stores in England that have it
 
dvw said:
Can you buy from supplement store in U.S. ? I can only find stores in England that have it
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Yeah man there is one store that carries it specifically. I got mine for free from the Company. They sent me one to try out and review It awhile back.

But my friends store, she carries it. If I recall one of the things I liked about it, it has no beta alanine if I recall properly. I can't stand that ingredient.

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Another solid option if you want to look is this product from private label- This has beta alanine and this reminds me a bit of excelsior, only this has beta alanine in it. It too is a great option. Formula-X

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I personally like the smaller label products in general over the big brand names.
 
Any comparison of this to Re1gn, i have been using OL Re1gn as my replacement to DMAA dust extreme and mesomorph and find it works better than both of them for focus and mind to muscle connection and provides better pumps and decent energy / strength and endurance, i used the hydrazine pre workout from PN and found that to be quite effective at 1 cap and even better at 2.
 
paul56778 said:
Any comparison of this to Re1gn, i have been using OL Re1gn as my replacement to DMAA dust extreme and mesomorph and find it works better than both of them for focus and mind to muscle connection and provides better pumps and decent energy / strength and endurance, i used the hydrazine pre workout from PN and found that to be quite effective at 1 cap and even better at 2.
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Completely different for RE1GN...one and done and in the trash where it belongs. Just more shtty Yohimbe extracts thrown on top of Alpha Y,etc. OL for some reason has become infatuated with Yohimbe, Rawl, Alpha-Y, Johimbe or any other herb like that in their last 2-3 pre's. Completely ruined CU for RE1GN...but that's a topic for another day.

Excelsior...hmmm...was "supposed" to contain the mythical ingredient in Craze/Detonate...failed. Feels nothing like REIGN, nothing. You like the RE1GN shakes, etc. stay with it, nothing like that in Excelsior.

Hydrazine is where it's at...smooth 1 cap does the trick every time. Stuff is fantastic.
 
shockrock3 said:
Completely different for RE1GN...one and done and in the trash where it belongs. Just more shtty Yohimbe extracts thrown on top of Alpha Y,etc. OL for some reason has become infatuated with Yohimbe, Rawl, Alpha-Y, Johimbe or any other herb like that in their last 2-3 pre's. Completely ruined CU for RE1GN...but that's a topic for another day.

Excelsior...hmmm...was "supposed" to contain the mythical ingredient in Craze/Detonate...failed. Feels nothing like REIGN, nothing. You like the RE1GN shakes, etc. stay with it, nothing like that in Excelsior.

Hydrazine is where it's at...smooth 1 cap does the trick every time. Stuff is fantastic.
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I have overdosed on Re1gn upto 2.5 scoops and had no shakes or ruined workouts due to it, but in general i get on well with yohimbine and alpha y in general although do find Bloodshr3d Raw to be strong at times, i was just considering Excelsior as another pre workout to try because i got on well with the new craze v2 which is mild compared to the original and DS Frenzy - the one that had AMP - which i think has now been removed from new version.
 
shockrock3 said:
Completely different for RE1GN...one and done and in the trash where it belongs. Just more shtty Yohimbe extracts thrown on top of Alpha Y,etc. OL for some reason has become infatuated with Yohimbe, Rawl, Alpha-Y, Johimbe or any other herb like that in their last 2-3 pre's. Completely ruined CU for RE1GN...but that's a topic for another day.

Excelsior...hmmm...was "supposed" to contain the mythical ingredient in Craze/Detonate...failed. Feels nothing like REIGN, nothing. You like the RE1GN shakes, etc. stay with it, nothing like that in Excelsior.

Hydrazine is where it's at...smooth 1 cap does the trick every time. Stuff is fantastic.
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I threw Arez white and other PWO containing A yohimbine because I can’t tolerate that ingredient. REIGN can give some cold chills first 3-4 times but after it gone for me and I don’t feel at all like A-yohimbine. And I’m waiting my third tube of REIGN

Note : I find tolerable “yohimbe bark extract” aka yohimbine and I find the best 11-hydroxy-yohimbine like in VPX white heat wich is very long lasting and doesn’t have sides like Alpha-Y.

Why companies don’t use more 11-hydroxy-yohimbine or other alkaloids like OG alphamine contained yohimbe BARK extract SA-2A
 
My first post here on AM forums. I LOVE this preworkout. It is my favorite current preworkout (#1). I've tried OG craze, OG Jack3d and AP Mesomorph. My body reacted very well to Excelsior, to me it felt like OG Craze. Crazy long lasting energy, tunnel vision, overwhelming motivation to do productive thing, and appetite suppression.

Others like PRED*TOR Nutritions Hydrazine but it being located in UK is too far for me (shipping wise). Hydrazine is very similar to OG craze and Excelsior. However, I was up on two pills a day and for me, the pills took awhile to feel it (an hour for it to kick in). With Excelsior, I can take half a scoop, feel it within 20-30 min. Heck, I've take 1/4 scoop just for motivation to finish my paper and essays.

Taste: 5/10. Bitter aftertaste. But hey we dont take these for taste. At least I dont.
Energy&Intensity: 10/10. Currently compared to others IMO this is the best. Compared to the past like craze and jack3d it would be 9.5
Focus : 10/10. I get a euphoric feeling with this preworkout ;)
Ingredients : 8/10. Its proprietary blend with ​DMHA​, Caffeine​ Bitter Orange Extrac,t ​Bauhinea Purpurea,​ Hawthorne Extract, ​Octopamine
Price: 6/10. It current stands at 49.99 (more with tax/shipping) a bottle. Compared to mainstream PWOs, this one is on the higher end.

Overall, I'd give it 9 out of 10. Its my #1 pre workout right now. Lost points because of the price, if it can be in the 20-30s range. 10/10. Hope this helps, if you live in NYC head to evasupplement store to grab one and try it out. TBH im glad its smaller brand because if others pick this up... There is always one D*mbass that takes more than whats recommended, and if it works too well.. well you know the rest.. LOL
 
I want to try this so bad but it's pretty pricey
PredNutrition please do some samples, I can 99.99% be sure I will be sending you my money for at least one tub if you do. I bought 3 tubs of Hydrazine after trying the 2 pill samples you did.
 
Finally bit the bullet and got a tub of Excelsior.

Took a scoop with 1 Hydrazine on my last push day, wow, euphoric. Had an ace workout despite a realy tough week and very little sleep and was in the best mood all day.

Absolutely loved it but a totally different experience to the high stim products which I am growing to dislike more and more.

Will be interesting to see if it's repeatable, if it is I will certainly be ordering more. I only plan on using it once a week on my heavy push day so fingers crossed.
 
Finally bit the bullet and got a tub of Excelsior.

Took a scoop with 1 Hydrazine on my last push day, wow, euphoric. Had an ace workout despite a realy tough week and very little sleep and was in the best mood all day.

Absolutely loved it but a totally different experience to the high stim products which I am growing to dislike more and more.

Will be interesting to see if it's repeatable, if it is I will certainly be ordering more. I only plan on using it once a week on my heavy push day so fingers crossed.
 
dr gearhead said:
Finally bit the bullet and got a tub of Excelsior.

Took a scoop with 1 Hydrazine on my last push day, wow, euphoric. Had an ace workout despite a realy tough week and very little sleep and was in the best mood all day.

Absolutely loved it but a totally different experience to the high stim products which I am growing to dislike more and more.

Will be interesting to see if it's repeatable, if it is I will certainly be ordering more. I only plan on using it once a week on my heavy push day so fingers crossed.
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How do you find sleeping with Excelsior ?
 
Bernardhopkin said:
How do you find sleeping with Excelsior ?
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first time I took it I don't remember having a bad night but last time I did really struggle, then again could be the tren.....

It is genuinely the best pre I've ever used and I include og Craze in that. It's just such a different experience to every other pre I've had, the mood enhancement alone is amazing.
 
Anyone tried the new fat burner Thermal Spark by Imperial Nutrition yet? Debating if I should get it for the fat burning. Using the Powder I'm able to adjust how much I take. I also recommend at least 1 day off the supplement.
 
tkOFWGKTA said:
Anyone tried the new fat burner Thermal Spark by Imperial Nutrition yet? Debating if I should get it for the fat burning. Using the Powder I'm able to adjust how much I take. I also recommend at least 1 day off the supplement.
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Yes. It’s good stuff. I use it once or twice a week. One cap is good enough. Haven’t tried Excelsior yet to compare the two though.
 
I've learnt that If I take it - it has to be before 3pm. If taken after 6pm my mind is in a pleasant haze for several hours in bed and just cannot sleep till around 2pm.
 
barrettv said:
Am hoping PN will take on Thermal Spark as Eva's doesn't ship internationally :(
C'mon PN!!! Get in on it!
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Predator Nutrition, will you be getting stock of Thermal Spark or create your own Hydrazine with extra Appetite Suppression would great even less stim more suppression.
 
barrettv said:
I've learnt that If I take it - it has to be before 3pm. If taken after 6pm my mind is in a pleasant haze for several hours in bed and just cannot sleep till around 2pm.
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lots of pre's have come before this one with these effects. None of them last long. This will be pulled or reformulated soon I bet.
 
muscleman said:
Auction is still going on, I think quite a few hundred people paid for Craze. Right now I see a screwer selling a bottle of Gaspari Detonate XT the really crappy non spiked stuff that came after for 700US$ but showing a bottle of the O.G Detonate in the ad and one bottle o.g Detonate for 999US$ ad is out!
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I have two sealed OG Detonate. Wonder what I could get for them.
 
muscleman said:
Auction is still going on, I think quite a few hundred people paid for Craze. Right now I see a screwer selling a bottle of Gaspari Detonate XT the really crappy non spiked stuff that came after for 700US$ but showing a bottle of the O.G Detonate in the ad and one bottle o.g Detonate for 999US$ ad is out!
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That Detonate has been up for a long time, I even screen shotted it awhile ago because I thought it was comical. Detonate was great for app suppression (for obvious reasons) but never felt euphoria from it. Couple of clowns on there now asking $500 & $700 lol.

Selling pre's for $100+ def. has a market. Some dude just sold 3 OG Dust Extreme for $150 a piece on Ebay. I'm still holding onto my cherished ones....Vein Nutrition Bloodshot, etc.
 
Apparently the new batches of Excelsior are not as strong as the old batches. So it looks like they pulled the first batch switcheroo on us. But, it's still supposed to be pretty strong.
 
We had a big long post about Excelsior you should really give a read. It's only 2 pages, so it's not that long, but that thread can be found here:

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muscleman said:
I am buildning a time machine to go back in time and buy O.G Craze 3 for 2 at Bodybuilding.com anybody else like to order some supplements from the past?
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Bruhhh if you build a time machine, you should buy a sports almanac!️
 
Did the main excelsior thread disappear or get moved?

Hoping for a restock of this and Thermal Spark in the near future…..any rumblings on this?
 
Carolina Kid said:
Did the main excelsior thread disappear or get moved?

Hoping for a restock of this and Thermal Spark in the near future…..any rumblings on this?
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Look who has the first reply in this thread lmao 🤣🤣🤣
 
Guys I think it’s just called “looking for a stim pre workout” or something like that. Didn’t have excelsior in the title

Edit- this is the one I remember

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In on this, as I miss the old Excelsior thread as well. Also starting to wonder how much longer it's going to be before US retailers have it back in stock.
 
N2ofusion said:
Guys I think it’s just called “looking for a stim pre workout” or something like that. Didn’t have excelsior in the title

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The detailed thread was taken down this week, not sure why, it was this one:

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Any update from the admins/mods on why? That was a lot of good info from that thread lost…..
 
Guys its pretty clear the thread was taken down because "dr*g talk" started in the thread. Myself included we started talking about "analogues". Not realizing that would get the thread shut down.

Then one member, I forget who, started posting, claiming to be "hi*h" from his batch of excelsior.

I know better as a veteran and we all do and we kinda got carried away. I know none of us did it intentionally

There is a forum for that type of talk. Its called BlueLight. LOL.
 
tstrogo93 said:
has anyone here tried the newest 5/24 batch?
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I have one of my guys who did. He said its solid, its high stim. He said he thinks it slightly varies from the OG version but that it def feels like it has "Something" in it. He says it's not quite as good as the OG, but still better then 99% of what is on the market.

I trust his gauge on things. I don't think he's exaggerating or lying to me.
 
WesleyInman said:
I have one of my guys who did. He said its solid, its high stim. He said he thinks it slightly varies from the OG version but that it def feels like it has "Something" in it. He says it's not quite as good as the OG, but still better then 99% of what is on the market.

I trust his gauge on things. I don't think he's exaggerating or lying to me.
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Speaking of guys I trust and support, I want to give a big thumbs up and major endorsement to WesleyInman, who sent me a 2/23 tub of Excelsior.

Not only did he send me an impossible to find pre workout, he included a variety of extras I wasn’t even expecting at no extra charge!

He’s not only a great resource and member of this board but a great person as well. If you have a choice, please choose to support local
Retail owners like WesleyInman, who go “Above and Beyond” for their customers and members of this forum!

If Excelsior and Thermal Spark ever see the light of day again, I have no doubt he’ll be able to help all of us with any limited release (fingers crossed!)

Thank you again WesleyInman, and hope to return the favor and continue to support you and local retail small shop owners!
 
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