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Excelsior pre workout

kgb30a007 said:
Amazing watch. Very insightful on the ins and outs of what happened
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Yeah but the guy still doesnt know exactly what it is. It the beginning they said "bath salts" but people said was too strong and later got changed. What was in the great ones In early 2019 was different. He never mentioned 3fma or those things. Im sure he probably knows the exact, or could really ask if he wanted
 
Hockeyman1019 said:
Yeah but the guy still doesnt know exactly what it is. It the beginning they said "bath salts" but people said was too strong and later got changed. What was in the great ones In early 2019 was different. He never mentioned 3fma or those things. Im sure he probably knows the exact, or could really ask if he wanted
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Wesley is on this board (or used to be) he can weigh in if he wants and/or knows.....
 
My local store has 4 tubs of OG excelsior in stock but he’s wanting silly money for them and I can’t imagine they’ve got long left before expiring. Never had the inclination to try it, I’ve really gone off the stim bombs/laced with drugs pre-wo’s
 
faipdeooiad said:
My local store has 4 tubs of OG excelsior in stock but he’s wanting silly money for them and I can’t imagine they’ve got long left before expiring. Never had the inclination to try it, I’ve really gone off the stim bombs/laced with drugs pre-wo’s
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How much is the local store wanting for the OG Excelsior tubs? Just curious
 
Hockeyman1019 said:
Thats the same price for excelsior now..either thats not the OG batches or thats amazing deal
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Ah well I’m not sure then - what looks to be the same few tubs have been sat in the same place under the counter for as long as I can remember. £90 is madness for a pre-wo - I’d want it to do the session for me for that sort of money.
 
faipdeooiad said:
Ah well I’m not sure then - what looks to be the same few tubs have been sat in the same place under the counter for as long as I can remember. £90 is madness for a pre-wo - I’d want it to do the session for me for that sort of money.
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If it's an exp batch 10/22 or earlier, it will 😂😂😂
 
Reminds me a time where a supplement shop 2 hrs ago from me had OG craze grape flavor for like $110. The owner had about 7 batches even after 2 years of the ban. I called the shop to ask if they had craze and he said they had several tubs. I told him to reserve it and I would buy that day, I would even pay over the phone lol. I ended up driving 4 hrs back and forth, and buying all of it lmao. Couldn’t believe they had that many tubs. This was in Los Angeles.
 
Cryptocommander said:
Reminds me a time where a supplement shop 2 hrs ago from me had OG craze grape flavor for like $110. The owner had about 7 batches even after 2 years of the ban. I called the shop to ask if they had craze and he said they had several tubs. I told him to reserve it and I would buy that day, I would even pay over the phone lol. I ended up driving 4 hrs back and forth, and buying all of it lmao. Couldn’t believe they had that many tubs. This was in Los Angeles.
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Your fellow tweakers salute you sir
 
DelTrem said:
IME the smooth top 6/26s were 🔥 as well. Crazy people are paying that much for a tub 😱
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It's a shame Imperial sold out to Predator and/or changed a good product.

Haven't seen anyone who legitimately gave a favorable review of the recent batches (09/28 and 10/28?).

I heard there is a 1/29 batch now too, but Safe to say the glory days of being a top pre are over if anything like the last two IMO.....
 
kgb30a007 said:
A 6/26 smooth top just went up on ebay for $500.... Honestly debating if it's worth it. I remember 7/26 was absolute fire
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6/26 is good but original 7/26 was better, definitely not worth $500. 6/26 smooth is a slightly stronger doomsday hardcore imo but that is now out of stock lmao
 
Carolina Kid said:
It's a shame Imperial sold out to Predator and/or changed a good product.

Haven't seen anyone who legitimately gave a favorable review of the recent batches (09/28 and 10/28?).

I heard there is a 1/29 batch now too, but Safe to say the glory days of being a top pre are over if anything like the last two IMO.....
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If you ask predator though they will tell you how well its selling despite it being stocked for months now and how its never changed and how everyone is just wrong lol wild they would ruin their best seller for seemingly no reason
 
curley98 said:
If you ask predator though they will tell you how well its selling despite it being stocked for months now and how its never changed and how everyone is just wrong lol wild they would ruin their best seller for seemingly no reason
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Pretty sure they can no longer source the sauce. They’d make it the same if they could. Now just milking the last few dollars out while destroying its reputation instead of letting it die with dignity.
 
Carolina Kid said:
It's a shame Imperial sold out to Predator and/or changed a good product.

Haven't seen anyone who legitimately gave a favorable review of the recent batches (09/28 and 10/28?).

I heard there is a 1/29 batch now too, but Safe to say the glory days of being a top pre are over if anything like the last two IMO.....
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They’ve posted on their Reddit yesterday about this and reading between the lines it looks like imperial may not be carried outside of Eva’s?


https://www.reddit.com/r/PredatorNutrition/s/aRZxOj7OHB
 
Maximiliaan said:
They’ve posted on their Reddit yesterday about this and reading between the lines it looks like imperial may not be carried outside of Eva’s?


https://www.reddit.com/r/PredatorNutrition/s/aRZxOj7OHB
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Good, I trust Eva's 1000% more than I ever would Predator Nutrition lol

They are clearly doing damage control now as a precursor to stop selling a product with a formula change they know is trash. Also find it funny how they now say Imperial supplies two other retailers (which we already know) when before they were adamant that they were the sole and exclusive supplier.

Just another reason I always shop at Eva's with trustworthy owners like Konstantine vs. Predator.....
 
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Carolina Kid said:
Good, I trust Eva's 1000% more than I ever would Predator Nutrition lol

They are clearly doing damage control now as a precursor to stop selling a product with a formula change they know is trash. Also find it funny how they now say Imperial supplies two other retailers (which we already know) when before they were adamant that they were the sole and exclusive supplier.

Just another reason I always shop at Eva's with trustworthy owners like Konstantine vs. Predator.....
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But why would you trust Eva’s more? I think your focus is in the wrong place totally and it’s not a PN/ES thing but an imperial thing.

1) They will be getting their product from the same supplier.
2) I got some TS from Eva’s and it was totally bunk but when I got it from PN last summer it worked well. I went to them to ask if Eva’s was kosher and they said imperial said it was.
3) PN then said what they had in stock wasn’t the same batch as what I’d bought last summer which I took to mean something alone the lines of don’t buy it from us cos you’ll probably get the same thing maybe?

I don’t get why people are focused on the sellers. It’s imperial making it, they don’t give you any way to contact them and all you hear from them is when PN repeats what they are being told by IN (nothing has changed, same formula since day 1 etc).
 
Maximiliaan said:
But why would you trust Eva’s more? I think your focus is in the wrong place totally and it’s not a PN/ES thing but an imperial thing.

1) They will be getting their product from the same supplier.
2) I got some TS from Eva’s and it was totally bunk but when I got it from PN last summer it worked well. I went to them to ask if Eva’s was kosher and they said imperial said it was.
3) PN then said what they had in stock wasn’t the same batch as what I’d bought last summer which I took to mean something alone the lines of don’t buy it from us cos you’ll probably get the same thing maybe?

I don’t get why people are focused on the sellers. It’s imperial making it, they don’t give you any way to contact them and all you hear from them is when PN repeats what they are being told by IN (nothing has changed, same formula since day 1 etc).
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Not sponsoring or a plug for Eva's in any way, just have never had a bad experience or run around explanation dealing with them.

If I ever had a product that didn't meet expectations, they've always been willing to work with me (and I'm sure other customers) on a solution/fix to rectify the situation.

Unlike the official statements from Predator saying, "nothing has changed, it's just everyone's tolerances and receptors that are the problem" type explanation.

I've also always had great dealings with ruesco and uncle Eddie's shop back in the day (closed now I think maybe?), so not an Eva's or only promotion/plug, just my overall and most recent experience(s).......
 
Carolina Kid said:
Not sponsoring or a plug for Eva's in any way, just have never had a bad experience or run around explanation dealing with them.

If I ever had a product that didn't meet expectations, they've always been willing to work with me (and I'm sure other customers) on a solution/fix to rectify the situation.

Unlike the official statements from Predator saying, "nothing has changed, it's just everyone's tolerances and receptors that are the problem" type explanation.

I've also always had great dealings with ruesco and uncle Eddie's shop back in the day (closed now I think maybe?), so not an Eva's or only promotion/plug, just my overall and most recent experience(s).......
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Carolina Kid said:
Not sponsoring or a plug for Eva's in any way, just have never had a bad experience or run around explanation dealing with them.

If I ever had a product that didn't meet expectations, they've always been willing to work with me (and I'm sure other customers) on a solution/fix to rectify the situation.

Unlike the official statements from Predator saying, "nothing has changed, it's just everyone's tolerances and receptors that are the problem" type explanation.

I've also always had great dealings with ruesco and uncle Eddie's shop back in the day (closed now I think maybe?), so not an Eva's or only promotion/plug, just my overall and most recent experience(s).......
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Yeah but if you didn’t like it, but they told you imperial said it’s the same formula would you say it’s Eva’s saying nothing has changed? That’s what I’m saying, whatever is/isn’t happening to the formula it’s not retailer’s but brands. But then there’s a conspiracy theory Pred owns imperial but somehow they decide let’s give Eva’s a stronger version of a product they supposedly own.

It don’t make sense on any logical ground is what I’m saying.
 
No one who makes money from selling excelsior will ever say the truth that the stuff have changed. Even the "good" tubs post the golden periode, is still not even close to the original excelsior.

It would have been much more easy to respect any store if they would stop insulting the intelligence of the buyers like this.. Claming that only the tollerance have changed.. Thats just beyond stupid.

Instead, just go out and say it like it is: sorry guys. But old school excelsior is longe gone. Just like og craze. But he got this temu excelsior, who is still crazy strong compared to all the others pwo.

Yes its pricy, no its not og excelsior, but its still a hardcore PWO.

Now that at least i could respect.
 
Moozefighter said:
No one who makes money from selling excelsior will ever say the truth that the stuff have changed. Even the "good" tubs post the golden periode, is still not even close to the original excelsior.

It would have been much more easy to respect any store if they would stop insulting the intelligence of the buyers like this.. Claming that only the tollerance have changed.. Thats just beyond stupid.

Instead, just go out and say it like it is: sorry guys. But old school excelsior is longe gone. Just like og craze. But he got this temu excelsior, who is still crazy strong compared to all the others pwo.

Yes its pricy, no its not og excelsior, but its still a hardcore PWO.

Now that at least i could respect.
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LMAO "Temu Excelsior"... had me rolling this morning 😂😂😂
 
I’ve got some excelsiors I’m parting with if anyone’s interested before I list them on eBay. 10/25 black tub, 6/26 smooth lid, and a 9/28… pm if you’re interested
 

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I tried excelsior from both Evas and Predator nutrition with the latest batch number and same expiration date. The one from Evas tasted like bubble gum and actually gave me energy for about 18 hours with one scoop fine powder more pink looking. The one from predator nutrition tastes like a weird fruit punch taste and gave me no noticable energy kick throughout the day using 2 scoops and a new thermal spark capsule threw in too more white and more gritty less fine powder. Why are the experiences so different and has anyone else had a similar experience with this latest batch that came out around the end of 2025?
 
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