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EvoMuse Presents: Eviscerate SUPERNOVA (BETA WARNING)

Nope, this is my first Evomuse product, and I'm looking forward to giving it a try. I will take some photos and post a review once I am done with the bottle.
 
gagandugan said:
Nope, this is my first Evomuse product, and I'm looking forward to giving it a try. I will take some photos and post a review once I am done with the bottle.
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Stoked to hear your thoughts, brother.

I love the way this feels when I apply it. Make sure it's shaken up well and you'll have some bits flake/glob up on you (I apply standing in my tub so I can just spray them down the drain after), but the feeling once it's applied and "cooling" is enjoyable to me.
 
I've got some SN ready to start next week, it's the blank bottle...what size dose should I apply? When is best to use? Thanks in advance :)
 
Mine is the retail release, says a half dollar size all over midsection. Hope this helps!
 
beerandon said:
Mine is the retail release, says a half dollar size all over midsection. Hope this helps!
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Is that applies twice a day, and will last the month? I'm quite lucky I'm only wanting to concentrate on stomach & love handles! Looking forward to stacking with BMP :)
 
I also have my first bottle of SN on the way and can't wait to try it! This will also be my first topical and first EvoMuse product after discovering this company a few weeks ago. Seeing all the research put into the products is really refreshing - always nice to see why an ingredient is in a product along with the science to back it up.

I am mostly using this product in attempt to target pec fat. I have what I think is gyno (naturally occuring since puberty, I'm 23) but it might be just an abnormal amount of fat stored there for whatever reason - an appointment with an endocrinologist next week will confirm this for me. Either way, it's not an extreme case but it's something I've wanted to deal with for years - puffy nipples when you're fairly lean everywhere else is the worst. Has anyone here had any success with this product for excess pec fat?

Also, I see a lot of people doing things to increase absorption like exfoliation and also using hand sanitizer afterwards I believe. I don't have an exfoliant but would any sort of light abrasion to the skin work? Any other methods of increasing the efficacy of this product? I know the best time is after a hot shower but just trying to make the most of this product. Thanks in advance!

Can't wait to try this product!!
 
he-man said:
Is that applies twice a day, and will last the month? I'm quite lucky I'm only wanting to concentrate on stomach & love handles! Looking forward to stacking with BMP :)
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I have heard that this application schedule will last a month, but I have been 1/day to extend the bottle. Only about 2 weeks in, so I don't know for sure yet. Someone with more experience will have to chime in here!
 
beerandon said:
I have heard that this application schedule will last a month, but I have been 1/day to extend the bottle. Only about 2 weeks in, so I don't know for sure yet. Someone with more experience will have to chime in here!
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It should last roughly a month. It really depends on the user and where you apply the SN. I've been applying to my legs a lot so I feel like I've been running through the bottles quicker then most.
 
I know that my last bottle of smolder lasted me about 3 weeks, but I was putting it on 2 times a day, and heavy applications at that. Had killer results though!
 
I'm twice a day with chest and abs, first bottle lasted exactly a month, this second bottle looks like I'll get about 5 weeks out of it
 
KevinConn said:
I also have my first bottle of SN on the way and can't wait to try it! This will also be my first topical and first EvoMuse product after discovering this company a few weeks ago. Seeing all the research put into the products is really refreshing - always nice to see why an ingredient is in a product along with the science to back it up.

I am mostly using this product in attempt to target pec fat. I have what I think is gyno (naturally occuring since puberty, I'm 23) but it might be just an abnormal amount of fat stored there for whatever reason - an appointment with an endocrinologist next week will confirm this for me. Either way, it's not an extreme case but it's something I've wanted to deal with for years - puffy nipples when you're fairly lean everywhere else is the worst. Has anyone here had any success with this product for excess pec fat?

Also, I see a lot of people doing things to increase absorption like exfoliation and also using hand sanitizer afterwards I believe. I don't have an exfoliant but would any sort of light abrasion to the skin work? Any other methods of increasing the efficacy of this product? I know the best time is after a hot shower but just trying to make the most of this product. Thanks in advance!

Can't wait to try this product!!
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Hope this treats you well, brother.

Had gyno, myself (pituitary tumor). Because it was actually gyno (lump underneath each nipple), the topicals didn't do anything for me (haven't used SN on it; but tried regular Eviscerate on it -- had surgery finally to have it removed this past summer).

My favorite time to apply is post-shower after I've used a loofah and a good scrub. I don't specifically exfoliate, but that has always treated me well.
 
What should the consistency of SN be like? Mine seems to be thick and a skin formed inside the bottle that's since broken up after shaking violently!! Comes out quite lumpy though :/
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The_Old_Guy said:
That pic makes me nervous to purchase. Can it be thinned out with Ethanol / D-Limonene or something?
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I'm hoping it will settle...that was delivered to me in the UK last month; just started it last week. Don't fancy having to add something to dilute!!
 
I'm going to thin it back out again. Seems I can't win here.
 
beerandon said:
Initial thoughts about the final retail release- 3 days of use.

( because I live in a Florida and there's a hurricane about to hit us and we're on lockdown= bored.)

-a nice cooling effect when applied after exfoliating, haven't felt a burn whatsoever. It looks like there's no direct capsaicin so that adds up.

-the diuretics are great. Definitely looking and feeling less watery, and I am a huge fan of that.

- I have applied to chin and lower cheeks before bed, careful with my hands after applying. No issues with getting near my eyes yet. (Bye bye double chin)

-I shake the Shnit out of it before every application, it seems to mix just fine and comes out just fine. I am definitely getting the little clumps after rubbing in that people are noting, when I get some hand sanitizer I'll try that to see if it helps drive that excess back in.

I'll keep you updated. "Before" pics noted.
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How are the chin applications going?
 
My bottle is perfect! It arrived two days ago, I kept it at room temperature, and I only need to shake it before applying. It's fairly thin and slightly "grainy". Easy to apply, the cooling effect is good and we'll see what it does for me relatively soon. Anyway, so far, so good! Props!
 
dsade, I wasn't complaining...just wanted to check mine hadn't gone weird in transit etc!!

I'm enjoying the cooling effect after application, and then shortly after my whole body warms up :)
 
kdubson14 said:
I'm still using the original beta and the consistency is perfect
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OG consistency was fine....V2 w/diuretic I have to heat up under hot water every time (don't mind though) and I have the final version waiting. Love this stuff...can honestly say w/out a shadow of a doubt it works.
 
dollar662 said:
Odd I have a final with label bought from Nutra and its really thin not thick at all with small balls of carbomer in it
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same here, from Nutra. The chunks would get stuck in the spout, then explode out when trying squeeze it. I'd have to shake it further when this happens or else I'd get too much.
 
this supplement is insane , ive lost 3-4 lbs easily of just fat off my stomach region.
 
dollar662 said:
...with small balls of carbomer in it
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Noooooooooooo!!!!!!!! You've got to be kidding me? I sent back one bottle of Smolder that had those balls, and just lived with a second bottle that had them. I want to give SuperNova a shot, but QC worries me. And since retailers have them, even if it's perfected - they have older stock. I may have to order direct to ensure it's the latest gen without "balls", thinner, etc... - and pay more.
 
me and the wife have been using a bottle so id say maybe three weeks so far almost the end of the bottle now.
 
luckylefty811 said:
me and the wife have been using a bottle so id say maybe three weeks so far almost the end of the bottle now.
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3 weeks with both of you using it? Not bad.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
Noooooooooooo!!!!!!!! You've got to be kidding me? I sent back one bottle of Smolder that had those balls, and just lived with a second bottle that had them. I want to give SuperNova a shot, but QC worries me. And since retailers have them, even if it's perfected - they have older stock. I may have to order direct to ensure it's the latest gen without "balls", thinner, etc... - and pay more.
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I have a new batch going in today. It also happens to be my birthday weekend, so look for a sale.

The carbomer balls are inconvenient, but there are no actives contained in them. Again, I will probably just opt for a thinner formula. just be sure your hand is cupped tightly.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
Noooooooooooo!!!!!!!! You've got to be kidding me? I sent back one bottle of Smolder that had those balls, and just lived with a second bottle that had them. I want to give SuperNova a shot, but QC worries me. And since retailers have them, even if it's perfected - they have older stock. I may have to order direct to ensure it's the latest gen without "balls", thinner, etc... - and pay more.
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This is NOT my baby like it is for Matt, but I do really love his work. Here is my experience. I bought two bottles of Supernova and received the beta #2. The first bottle, having never used any of his topicals and not even having a label, I didn't shake so well and it became extremely unpleasant to use. It was goopy and thick, didn't come out of the bottle, didn't absorb, left a sticky residue for hours, stuck to shirts even after 30 minutes. I was disappointed in the application of the product. It seemed to work, but I stopped using it because it got too thick and cumbersome to apply.

The second bottle, I started off by shaking the absolute heck out of before I ever even opened it. I now shake it before EVERY application vigorously. The stuff applies much better, absorbs, etc. and the sticky residue is minimal now. I was doing twice a day cardio for a while and would apply before each session and the results were definitely noticeable - but I was doing twice a day cardio too so take that how you like.

I would notice balls once in a while, but nothing too bad. After shaking, the balls are very very minimal.

I personally think that the carrier needs some tweaking but isn't so bad if you shake it. I know Matt is working on it and trying to make it all work. We are dealing with a carrier that is designed to not go into systemic circulation here, so it's a little more difficult to make perfect I think.
 
I have no issues as long as its shaken well each time, applies nicely. I have found that small globs will form if I overlap a spot that has already dried or rub it in too long. Other than that it's been great.
 
he-man said:
Can anyone comment on BMP dosing? Waiting on someone to reply on the writeup thread!
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i just checked it....I don't see a question posted in the last 5 posts or so.
 
Hey dsade, any update on Clear Edge?
 
Of course I clicked it, but I can't go to page 25 of a 17 page thread.

Do you just want to repost the question here?
 
HIT4ME said:
This is NOT my baby like it is for Matt, but I do really love his work.
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I do too - constant Smolder user going on 2 years. But I also own a business and deal with customers, so I know both sides. The carbomer balls are a PITA if you look at your floor after a few applications in the same spot - especially if you share a bathroom with a female type :D They are a defect - I doubt they are purposely there to fall off your body - so fix the problem, preferably before releasing to retailers. That's really my only gripe - the viscosity of AbAb, Evisc, and Smolder were fine with me. I didn't try this new one, but as long as it didn't require me to jump through hoops to use it, I'd be fine. Pick up, shake well, apply - that's what a customer wants. Any "Just run it under hot water....." is a fail for a production product. You can't fix a problem if you don't know it exists, and fixing problems makes products better = more sales. That's all I'm trying to do - make it better - I wouldn't keep spending my hard earned money on it if I was just bitching to bitch.
 
The_Old_Guy said:
I do too - constant Smolder user going on 2 years. But I also own a business and deal with customers, so I know both sides. The carbomer balls are a PITA if you look at your floor after a few applications in the same spot - especially if you share a bathroom with a female type :D They are a defect - I doubt they are purposely there to fall off your body - so fix the problem, preferably before releasing to retailers. That's really my only gripe - the viscosity of AbAb, Evisc, and Smolder were fine with me. I didn't try this new one, but as long as it didn't require me to jump through hoops to use it, I'd be fine. Pick up, shake well, apply - that's what a customer wants. Any "Just run it under hot water....." is a fail for a production product. You can't fix a problem if you don't know it exists, and fixing problems makes products better = more sales. That's all I'm trying to do - make it better - I wouldn't keep spending my hard earned money on it if I was just bitching to bitch.
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I completely understand and realize you weren't complaining. I always tell people that the problem in sales is that most of the time, when you customers have a problem with a service or product, they won't tell you because they don't want to hurt your feelings and/or don't think you will correct it. If someone brings up an issue, they are one of your best customers because you have 10 other customers thinking the same thing and not telling you.

I don't want to speak for Matt, but I think in the case of Supernova, the goal is tough to accomplish. The idea is to actually get into fat cells directly, not go systemic and then get delivered to fat cells. So a large portion of the transdermal is geared toward keeping the product localized. On the other hand, if I understand correctly, you have to get it through the dermal barriers quickly to keep it from going systemic also. So, we need it to be quick, but slow at the same time.

I don't have any huge issue with balls forming....and with diligent shaking the product works pretty well. Could still be tweaked. I would personally apply 3x per day over two if the application was smoother because of it...or even 4x. I don't know how to solve it and I know Matt is paying attention and thinking on it.
 
Only issue I have with Ab Ab and its thin carrier is some leakage under the cap when you use it. The balls from Eviscerate+ and Supernova are annoying but I did actually prefer the thicker carrier. There's pluses and minuses to each kind of carrier but they all work and dry fast so I could care less.
 
BigGame84 said:
Only issue I have with Ab Ab and its thin carrier is some leakage under the cap when you use it. The balls from Eviscerate+ and Supernova are annoying but I did actually prefer the thicker carrier. There's pluses and minuses to each kind of carrier but they all work and dry fast so I could care less.
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everything else is irrelevant. gains first, convenience second
 
dsade

Would there be any benefit using this product at maintenance level calories or slight e.g. surplus of 200-350 calories per day to add lean mass whilst minimizing or preventing fat gain on abdominal area.

I have been using DCP for past 10 weeks and find it an awesome addition for cutting with and has allowed for me to reach low bodyfat levels in combination with other fat burning products, some stim and some stim free, defuse has also been awesome when used in combo with EBF recompadrol for cheat days.

I have also been getting on well with OG Eviscerate in it allowing for my mid sections and serratus to become more ripped over past months usage.

Just wondering if it would be better saved for a cut next year or if it could serve as a fat gain prevention tool whilst allowing for me to add overall mass on winter bulking cycle.
 
I would absolutely incorporate Supernova into a lean bulk for the Winter. Keep an eye on what you normally consider "maintenance" calories. You will probably be pleasantly surprised to find that your BMR gets cranked up, which means you can even tweak your calories up even higher to add mass while staying lean.
 
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