dsade
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This one is extremely expensive to manufacture, with high minimums on the ingredients. Looks like this won't make it out until February/March.
EvoMuse BMP - Body Modify:Phenotype Writeup
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This one is extremely expensive to manufacture, with high minimums on the ingredients. Looks like this won't make it out until February/March.
dsade
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I have ONE ace in the hole that I will find out about next week. If it comes through, we will be able to get it out in a couple of weeks as a tableted product.
Geoforce
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Let's hope we hit it!
Quads_of_Stee
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almost done with my log of this and it has been amazing so far. it's something that crept up on me and I didn't full notice until looking back
anthon88
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My cut will be in full swing at that point and I would welcome the addition haha
That could hold me over
GNO
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I haven't used any -epi products yet so can't comment.
I have Folli and MyoSynergy queued up to run so will know soon. Matt wanted beta testers to avoid epi with BMP.
Btw, has anyone stacked Myosynergy with a test supp like DAA?
abformulations
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Update?
abformulations
Legend
Ok cool
baldymcgee
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DId this become Strafe? or is this still in the pipeline?
abformulations
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Lol that's a good thing
taman6886
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We had what you might call beta testing but no official release as of yet, but appreciate your interest.
dsade
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Ahh yes!
My first choice as a major BMP7 activator was initially dropped in favor of the Lactoferrin, due to inability to get a high enough quality extract. Not only did we find a quality extract, but we were able to secure an ultra pure extract that will blow the Lactoferrin away.
Just in time to make the substitution before we go into production.
My first choice as a major BMP7 activator was initially dropped in favor of the Lactoferrin, due to inability to get a high enough quality extract. Not only did we find a quality extract, but we were able to secure an ultra pure extract that will blow the Lactoferrin away.
Just in time to make the substitution before we go into production.
GNO
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Will this new ingredient replace lactoferrin or will it be an extra addition?
NoAddedHmones
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When's this due to be listed on your site? Will pick up a few for later down the track..
dsade
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As a single product? I want to wait until I have tracking before putting this up. I put up the TPS and split shipping, because I would have gotten lynched if I didn't.
NoAddedHmones
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As a single product? I want to wait until I have tracking before putting this up. I put up the TPS and split shipping, because I would have gotten lynched if I didn't.
Correct, cant stomach Myo so just gonna settle with BMP.
dsade
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I'm working on a libido booster with the B. Superba and E. Ulmoides. You up for testing their isolated effects on body comp?
NoAddedHmones
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Got Brite and Basic on the cards atm... Not sure how I could isolate its effects from that product when using these two...
dsade
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NoAddedHmones
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Not one to say no to testing, just like making full disclosure lol. Great news. Winter cold is destroying my efforts to remain under 3000 calories a day!
GNO
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Also interested in getting BMP separate too. My digestive issues are flaring up and want steer clear of forskolin.
megadeth
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dsade's reply to a post in the Myo elite thread:
Quote Originally Posted by Auslifter:
how would the BMP/Myo stack go during a cut you think dsade ? i know you posted about the hunger haha i don't think it effect me to much i should be bringing my calories up in another 6 or 8 weeks only 8-10lbs to go.
BMP specifically is designed to change phenotype towards lean while holding more muscle mass. The combination will be excellent
Auslifter
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I don't think so, i look at it as its going to help you to retain strength and do more work in the gym, so your burning more calories then, and maintaining workout performance. but i will find out since im planning on doing Myo/BMP for 8 weeks during my deficit phase.
NoAddedHmones
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Specific BMP (Smads) over expression dominate myostatin inhibtory effects in terms of anabolism. This stuff kind of changes the ball game in terms of what can be acheived during a deficit IMO.
GNO
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I ran the bmp beta at maintenance and noticed a leaning effect.
Auslifter
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this makes me moist
dsade
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Cross post from the BRITE thread:
And in case you all want to sort of glimpse into my long game, everything it being designed to work together to bring your dream physique into reality MUCH quicker.
BMP7 (along with BMP2) is the main focus of the BMP product.
Nature. 2008 Aug 21;454(7207):1000-4. doi: 10.1038/nature07221.
New role of bone morphogenetic protein 7 in brown adipogenesis and energy expenditure.
Tseng YH1, Kokkotou E, Schulz TJ, Huang TL, Winnay JN, Taniguchi CM, Tran TT, Suzuki R, Espinoza DO, Yamamoto Y, Ahrens MJ, Dudley AT, Norris AW, Kulkarni RN, Kahn CR.
Author information
Abstract
Adipose tissue is central to the regulation of energy balance. Two functionally different types of fat are present in mammals: white adipose tissue, the primary site of triglyceride storage, and brown adipose tissue, which is specialized in energy expenditure and can counteract obesity. Factors that specify the developmental fate and function of white and brown adipose tissue remain poorly understood. Here we demonstrate that whereas some members of the family of bone morphogenetic proteins (BMPs) support white adipocyte differentiation, BMP7 singularly promotes differentiation of brown preadipocytes even in the absence of the normally required hormonal induction cocktail. BMP7 activates a full program of brown adipogenesis including induction of early regulators of brown fat fate PRDM16 (PR-domain-containing 16; ref. 4) and PGC-1alpha (peroxisome proliferator-activated receptor-gamma (PPARgamma) coactivator-1alpha; ref. 5), increased expression of the brown-fat-defining marker uncoupling protein 1 (UCP1) and adipogenic transcription factors PPARgamma and CCAAT/enhancer-binding proteins (C/EBPs), and induction of mitochondrial biogenesis via p38 mitogen-activated protein (MAP) kinase-(also known as Mapk14) and PGC-1-dependent pathways. Moreover, BMP7 triggers commitment of mesenchymal progenitor cells to a brown adipocyte lineage, and implantation of these cells into nude mice results in development of adipose tissue containing mostly brown adipocytes. Bmp7 knockout embryos show a marked paucity of brown fat and an almost complete absence of UCP1. Adenoviral-mediated expression of BMP7 in mice results in a significant increase in brown, but not white, fat mass and leads to an increase in energy expenditure and a reduction in weight gain. These data reveal an important role of BMP7 in promoting brown adipocyte differentiation and thermogenesis in vivo and in vitro, and provide a potential new therapeutic approach for the treatment of obesity.
Comment in
Developmental biology: Neither fat nor flesh. [Nature. 2008]
PMID:
18719589
[PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
PMCID:
PMC2745972
And in case you all want to sort of glimpse into my long game, everything it being designed to work together to bring your dream physique into reality MUCH quicker.
BMP7 (along with BMP2) is the main focus of the BMP product.
Nature. 2008 Aug 21;454(7207):1000-4. doi: 10.1038/nature07221.
New role of bone morphogenetic protein 7 in brown adipogenesis and energy expenditure.
Tseng YH1, Kokkotou E, Schulz TJ, Huang TL, Winnay JN, Taniguchi CM, Tran TT, Suzuki R, Espinoza DO, Yamamoto Y, Ahrens MJ, Dudley AT, Norris AW, Kulkarni RN, Kahn CR.
Author information
Abstract
Adipose tissue is central to the regulation of energy balance. Two functionally different types of fat are present in mammals: white adipose tissue, the primary site of triglyceride storage, and brown adipose tissue, which is specialized in energy expenditure and can counteract obesity. Factors that specify the developmental fate and function of white and brown adipose tissue remain poorly understood. Here we demonstrate that whereas some members of the family of bone morphogenetic proteins (BMPs) support white adipocyte differentiation, BMP7 singularly promotes differentiation of brown preadipocytes even in the absence of the normally required hormonal induction cocktail. BMP7 activates a full program of brown adipogenesis including induction of early regulators of brown fat fate PRDM16 (PR-domain-containing 16; ref. 4) and PGC-1alpha (peroxisome proliferator-activated receptor-gamma (PPARgamma) coactivator-1alpha; ref. 5), increased expression of the brown-fat-defining marker uncoupling protein 1 (UCP1) and adipogenic transcription factors PPARgamma and CCAAT/enhancer-binding proteins (C/EBPs), and induction of mitochondrial biogenesis via p38 mitogen-activated protein (MAP) kinase-(also known as Mapk14) and PGC-1-dependent pathways. Moreover, BMP7 triggers commitment of mesenchymal progenitor cells to a brown adipocyte lineage, and implantation of these cells into nude mice results in development of adipose tissue containing mostly brown adipocytes. Bmp7 knockout embryos show a marked paucity of brown fat and an almost complete absence of UCP1. Adenoviral-mediated expression of BMP7 in mice results in a significant increase in brown, but not white, fat mass and leads to an increase in energy expenditure and a reduction in weight gain. These data reveal an important role of BMP7 in promoting brown adipocyte differentiation and thermogenesis in vivo and in vitro, and provide a potential new therapeutic approach for the treatment of obesity.
Comment in
Developmental biology: Neither fat nor flesh. [Nature. 2008]
PMID:
18719589
[PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
PMCID:
PMC2745972
NoAddedHmones
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Good stuff with the combo Matt! Picked up a couple for a nice run down the track.
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