EvoMuse BMP - Body Modify:Phenotype Writeup

[NoAddedHmones]

So a word of warning, dont mix BMP with nitrates, nausea was off the charts during my workout this morning!

 

[taman6886]

So a word of warning, dont mix BMP with nitrates, nausea was off the charts during my workout this morning!

Thanks for the input. What exactly did you mix it with.

 

[NoAddedHmones]

Thanks for the input. What exactly did you mix it with.

4 caps kno3, 1 scoop white flood reborn and 1 amentomax. I used the same yest minus the kno3 and had no issues.

 

[taman6886]

Ah, got ya. Thanks.

 

[abformulations]

So a word of warning, dont mix BMP with nitrates, nausea was off the charts during my workout this morning!

This is good to know. Thanx

 

[koi1214]

4 caps pno3, 1 scoop white flood reborn and 1 amentomax. I used the same yest minus the kno3 and had no issues.

Are you logging the BMP?

 

[NoAddedHmones]

Are you logging the BMP?

To be honest i didnt even know i was getting a batch to test it just came with an order. Im currently finishing pct from my 11-kt cycle. So dont plan on logging it everyday but i will do weekly reviews in this thread.

 

[koi1214]

To be honest i didnt even know i was getting a batch to test it just came with an order. Im currently finishing pct from my 11-kt cycle. So dont plan on logging it everyday but i will do weekly reviews in this thread.

Thanks and look forward to your updates.

 

[Quads_of_Stee]

no nitrates? I have betaine nitrate from MT i was planning on using, will dose it AM/PM rather than Pre/Post

 

[NoAddedHmones]

no nitrates? I have betaine nitrate from MT i was planning on using, will dose it AM/PM rather than Pre/Post

I mean you can try them and see how you react, im not one for ever really feeling nausea so this was pretty unusal.

 

[Auslifter]

Il will be logging this once i get my hands on it, got some Myo and ArA stashed. but want to do it solo first then again with Myo and ArA, to see the difference, have already run Myo and ArA together before, was very happy with my strength increases and endurance/pumps. workouts on that combo were insane. when i ran with no ArA Follidrone after Myo strength was still pretty good but endurance was better with folli or more (Epi-). so having tried both, will be able to provide feedback on how BMP goes against those. I will still be in a calorie deficit for this to.

 

[koi1214]

Il will be logging this once i get my hands on it, got some Myo and ArA stashed. but want to do it solo first then again with Myo and ArA, to see the difference, have already run Myo and ArA together before, was very happy with my strength increases and endurance/pumps. workouts on that combo were insane. when i ran with no ArA Follidrone after Myo strength was still pretty good but endurance was better with folli or more (Epi-). so having tried both, will be able to provide feedback on how BMP goes against those.

Cool!

 

[NoAddedHmones]

Il will be logging this once i get my hands on it, got some Myo and ArA stashed. but want to do it solo first then again with Myo and ArA, to see the difference, have already run Myo and ArA together before, was very happy with my strength increases and endurance/pumps. workouts on that combo were insane. when i ran with no ArA Follidrone after Myo strength was still pretty good but endurance was better with folli or more (Epi-). so having tried both, will be able to provide feedback on how BMP goes against those. I will still be in a calorie deficit for this to.

Seems like you have been in a calorie deficit for a long time now, how much more weight do you need to lose?

 

[chedapalooza]

Seems like you have been in a calorie deficit for a long time now, how much more weight do you need to lose?

Caloric deficit?? What's that?

It's finally October. I've been waiting since June to stop carb cycling

 

[Auslifter]

Seems like you have been in a calorie deficit for a long time now, how much more weight do you need to lose?

Been doing a pretty slow cut, 1-0.5lbs a week. but 4-5 weeks is all i need, 5-6lbs. il bump it up to 2 a week for this and increase my deficit. on around 2400 cals at the moment, macros around P 185 C 255-265 F 55-60. for this il drop to P 185 C 220 F 55. and increase HIIT sessions to 3, from 1-2. keeping MISS x2 a week. falling of the wagon has made it longer than needed though

 

[Misfit28]

I'm definitely interested to see what happens with this product!

 

[Asmodean]

My semi log

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/256773-bmp-beta-testing.html#post4660273

 

[NoAddedHmones]

What is in this stuff that is causing slight euphoria about 20 mins after ingestion?

 

[dsade]

What is in this stuff that is causing slight euphoria about 20 mins after ingestion?

Probably a combination of the Osthole and the Salidroside.

 

[Quads_of_Stee]

Should be arriving this week and i am very excited!

 

[cubs1987]

Should be arriving this week and i am very excited!

very jealous! looking forward to the logs!

 

[NoAddedHmones]

Probably a combination of the Osthole and the Salidroside.

Interesting, and the osthole and nitrates could be interacting which caused nausea?

 

[dsade]

I actually tried to repeat your experiment, and experienced zero nausea. Immediately searching, I don't see any direct reason for it.

 

[NoAddedHmones]

I actually tried to repeat your experiment, and experienced zero nausea. Immediately searching, I don't see any direct reason for it.

Not doubting you at all, ive just never experienced nausea like that before, even if i use a strong as cocktail of stims or a heap of pump ingredients. Maybe it was just an off day, ill try adding 1-2 caps kno3 next workout.

 

[dsade]

Side Note: I strongly recommend throwing in a 1000mg TUMS with your preworkout dosage, for calcium content.

 

[NoAddedHmones]

Side Note: I strongly recommend throwing in a 1000mg TUMS with your preworkout dosage, for calcium content.

Im already well over RDI for calcium, how come you strongly recommend?

 

[Auslifter]

Not doubting you at all, ive just never experienced nausea like that before, even if i use a strong as cocktail of stims or a heap of pump ingredients. Maybe it was just an off day, ill try adding 1-2 caps kno3 next workout.

you going to be logging it?

 

[NoAddedHmones]

you going to be logging it?

Weekly reviews

 

[dsade]

Im already well over RDI for calcium, how come you strongly recommend?

I have been experimenting with preworkout Calcium since 2007. Consistently, my strength is between 10-15% increased from taking 600mg-1g Calcium preworkout.

 

[NoAddedHmones]

I have been experimenting with preworkout Calcium since 2007. Consistently, my strength is between 10-15% increased from taking 600mg-1g Calcium preworkout.

This is relevant to my interests, i will give it a go. Thanks

 

[dsade]

This is relevant to my interests, i will give it a go. Thanks

Typo...since 1997. I was still in the Army.

 

[BlackWinging]

I have been experimenting with preworkout Calcium since 2007. Consistently, my strength is between 10-15% increased from taking 600mg-1g Calcium preworkout.

Interesting. Any specific form, or is the tums just there because it's convenient?

 

[dsade]

Interesting. Any specific form, or is the tums just there because it's convenient?

Cheap and convenient, mostly. I just buy the giant size store brand and keep them in my gym bag.

 

[BlackWinging]

Cheap and convenient, mostly. I just buy the giant size store brand and keep them in my gym bag.

Gotcha. Might as well give it a go, calcium's cheap as hell anyways.

 

[Etomic]

EvoMuse Beta Test Log

Sorry for the delay, was not intentionally blowing this off.

 

[warnerve]

Good info on the calcium, I will start doing that. I seemed to notice the euphoria too, but I am not sure if I was expecting it because I read that post - think I am going to avoid reading the other logs til mine is done to avoid skewing my perceptions.

My log - http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/256886-evomuse-bmp-beta.html

 

[glennabolic]

two questions - whats the dosing on off days? and... does the calcium need to be pre-workout or any time?

 

[Quads_of_Stee]

two questions - whats the dosing on off days? and... does the calcium need to be pre-workout or any time?

calcium should be pre if want the acute strength benefits of it. Curious on off-day dosings too

 

[dsade]

Dosing for off days - just pick the most convenient times.

 

[MidwestBeast]

Very interesting info on the Tums -- I'll have to give that a shot.

I'll forever associate Tums with gobbling them down while every muscle in my body seized/cramped up after a baseball doubleheader on a midwest August day. Woof.

 

[Quads_of_Stee]

I bought a thing of tums to try it out dsade. Considering calcium ion channels help with maximal contraction I feel it will work.

 

[GNO]

I saw a commercial yesterday for smoothie flavoured Tums. I might look for those and jump in on this when I start my BMP.

 

[NoAddedHmones]

I bought a thing of tums to try it out dsade. Considering calcium ion channels help with maximal contraction I feel it will work.

Will surely be synergy with caffeine + amentoflavone

 

[Quads_of_Stee]

Will surely be synergy with caffeine + amentoflavone

thats exactly what I was thinking of when trying out tums

 

[GNO]

But will the amentoflavone affect the perceived results of the BMP?

 

[NoAddedHmones]

But will the amentoflavone affect the perceived results of the BMP?

Probably, but the pwo calcium talk was a side matter to BMP.

 

[NoAddedHmones]

Week 1 update:

Been an interesting week, have dosed BMP pre workout and in the morning on off days, as noted previously I get a slight tingly euphoria 15 mins after each dose which is still continuing. It usually lasts about 10 - 20 mins. I can't make any comments as to effects in the gym from BMP since it has only been one week. One things for sure my lifts haven't rocketed by 20lbs like other testers which is dissapointing. My weight is also steady at 86kg and im in my final week of PCT from 11-kt (running Alphamax).

This stuff made me get pretty bad nausea when it was dosed at the same time as Kno3, Amentomax and whiteflood. I linked it to the potassium nitrate but dsade doesnt believe it to be the case, either way im not dosing pump ingredients with this stuff anymore. Other things to note is this powder mixes absolutely terribly in water. Your best bet is to cap it or bomb it straight down in a napkin or something, it burns heaps if you inhale it accidently or gets stuck in your throat.

Looking forward to week two, as Dsade said this will be when effects kick in.

 

[koi1214]

I get a slight tingly euphoria 15 mins after each dose which is still continuing. It usually lasts about 10 - 20 mins.

Is it similar to parathesia from beta alanine?

 

[NoAddedHmones]

Nah not at all, its not a prickly feeling just very subtle tingle and sense of feel good.

 

[Etomic]

Nah not at all, its not a prickly feeling just very subtle tingle and sense of feel good.

"Tingly" might be a more appropriate adjective for what I had experienced than "prickly." Definitely not like taking a full dose of beta alanine for the first time in a while... more like how older soda feels on the tongue.