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Do ANY PH's work anymore?

Cantell

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Im sure this has been discussed before, however, Its been ALONG time since I have been on. On the site, as well as a PH. I plan on starting a cycle in a couple months if I can get my hands on something reliable. I have been reading about x-tren, e-stane, 3 ad, and some others. BUT I KEEP HEARING ALOT OF THEM ARE "BUNK"?

Has anyone got any opinions on which are legit? As well as has anyone purchased lately? I know theres been alot of bans and what not, so I just wasnt sure if anything legit was stilll available. Athough I do have some Superdrol in the cabinet! :ponder:

Anyways, let me know guys, would preffer a stack as well since I have done a couple cycles.
 
12 weeks test e 500mg for a base
superdrol 1-4 20mg
epi 9-13 40-50mg
 
epistane wouldnbt be useless- it has anti estrogen properties (thus the drying out SC mentioned) not to mention good strength gains and solidifying any muscle mass rapidly aquired from the SD


yes there are plenty of useful prohormones/designer steroids around- most of them are NOT bunk- some are but most arent- look around read around


A couple

Mastavol (Superdrol)

Methyl E, Epistane, Havoc (Epitho compound-epistane)

M14add (Converts to dianabol at 15%)

Many more but these are my favs
 
use an AI if you want to "dry out". Epi will just shoot your test numbers down and actually bump estro up...hello gyno.

Just stick with the basics...test and if you want a kicker. no need for that epi. USELESS.
 
I've heard it's good to add another compound near the end of the cycle..

Just like when people use winny at the end of a cycle to dry out and get shredded... instead of winny you could just use epi.
 
depending on your goals ( cut, lean-bulk, all-out-bulk) there are quite a few ph's that are effective. personally i think epistane and its clones are useless but i have seen quite a few people put on decent strength and get a few extra cuts, hovever it was ineffective on me. if you have some superdrol handy thats not a bad route for some instant strength gains and decent dry size gains. also p-mag is quite effective in a bulk even on its own. and then theres tren....il let someone else pick up from here
 
See, I ran SD once, and got NO gains. I ran Hdrol and got significantly more defined. Maybe my diet wasnt on point tho? I also am a type 1 diabetic, Idk if that makes any difference on the PH's working?

And when people say BULK or CLEAN bulk? That boggles me...I want to keep cutting now (pre-cycle) then bulk up, obviously with the least fat gain possible.
 
SouthernCharm said:
12 weeks test e 500mg for a base
superdrol 1-4 20mg
epi 9-13 40-50mg
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^^^Do this if you have test^^^ and finish up with a dry oral of choice. I just finished exact same cycle except did a tren/hdrol stack instead of epi to finish up the cycle. Amazing.

You already got SD, so use it. Designer orals are much cheaper than dbol or winny anyway. If you dont have test, run the SD solo.
 
MrBigPR said:
use an AI if you want to "dry out". Epi will just shoot your test numbers down and actually bump estro up...hello gyno.

Just stick with the basics...test and if you want a kicker. no need for that epi. USELESS.
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your right- epistane cuts test down- but I personally dont agree- this devestate estro levels- and some estrogen is a good thing

it plays an important role in hormone balance- although I think in the right scene an AI is better suited than epistane- just depends on what one is running and how their body reacts.

all this is just my opinion sir!
I am a fan of epistane- i had great lbm and strength gains- but some people hated it- like I said I think its how ur body reacts
 
thapr3dat0r said:
^^^Do this if you have test^^^ and finish up with a dry oral of choice. I just finished exact same cycle except did a tren/hdrol stack instead of epi to finish up the cycle. Amazing.

You already got SD, so use it. Designer orals are much cheaper than dbol or winny anyway. If you dont have test, run the SD solo.
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Well personally I used Epi, and got decent strength gains from it. Nothing to brag about compared to superdrol, but im still happy with the results.

OP maybe epi isn't for you, (you never know it might be useless...lol), but the point of my post is that you can run sd with a test base and a dry compound towards the end. Just because you're running a test base doesn't mean that you've got to get more AAS to go with it. Winny like ^ said, is more expensive to come by compared to another oral. if you're going to run two orals in the same cycle, it's best to make sure you have support supps for it and get a blood test.
 
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