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Disappointed with new Erase

Type O Hero

Type O Hero

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I've been on this cycle for over two weeks now. Original Erase worked very well by comparison. It was more potent and the effects were more pronounced.

New Erase isn't completely bunk, just don't expect OG Erase results. If OG Erase was a 10, new Erase to me would be a 7. All my opinion, but there it is.

I dose x3 per day.
 
Type O Hero said:
I've been on this cycle for over two weeks now. Original Erase worked very well by comparison. It was more potent and the effects were more pronounced. New Erase isn't completely bunk, just don't expect OG Erase results. If OG Erase was a 10, new Erase to me would be a 7. All my opinion, but there it is. I dose x3 per day.
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I agree. I wouldn't buy the new erase again, the armistane version dried me out and leaned
Me out way more than this.
 
Whatever the reason for the change, they sure didn't have the customer in mind.

I went from being a big fan of Erase to wishing I had bought something else.
 
PES is growing in popularity so I'm guessing the formula change had something to do with this.

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Government officials benefit from giving advantages tp big pharmaceutical companies because they have more money to contribute for campaigns. It's bull****.
 
Well, I'm sorry you both are displeased with the new formula, however we most certainly ALWAYS have the consumer in mind. We were not even aware of that new DS control act prior to reformulation.

My opinion may be taken as biased, and thats fine, however I actually prefer the new formula with DHAA over "arimistane". Less dry joints, equipotent sub-q drying/leaning in my experience.
 
I have a bottle at the moment that I have not yet started so I'll reserve judgement. I don't know how arimistane is derived but according to the ingredients label these seem to be more like herbal extracts than lab chemicals. That is the only reason i brought up that other link but I'm no chemist or pharma major lol... Maybe another rep can bring up the reasoning behind the change and why they made the former arimistane erase unavailable.
 
Like I said, it's not junk, but it sure isn't as potent. OG Erase dried me out way more.

I have naturally ****ty joints and I never had a problem with OG Erase.
 
This thread is super interesting.

I was thinking of maybe giving the new epro and abe a shot but we need more threads like this.
 
There are other supplements sites that still sell the old versions.

If you search hard enough you can still find all of the old version stock.
 
Ive also tried the new version... wasnt impressed either, but it is what it is
 
And with comments like that I definitely don't wanna spend the money on the new stuff. Enjoying Alphamax Too much.

Now all I need is a good GDA.

I might give Alphamine a go still. It's still got HICA in it.

I wanna stack Alphamax, a good GDA and Alphamine together. Might be all kinds of alpha-Madness.
 
Johnold said:
And with comments like that I definitely don't wanna spend the money on the new stuff. Enjoying Alphamax Too much. Now all I need is a good GDA. I might give Alphamine a go still. It's still got HICA in it. I wanna stack Alphamax, a good GDA and Alphamine together. Might be all kinds of alpha-Madness.
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Recompadrol is the best GDA hands down
 
Off topic but hows the new anabeta doin? Better then the original. Not tryin to start any drama just wanting to know if I should stock up ob the old formula
 
I ran two bottles of the new Erase Pro straight through and really liked it. Drying and leaning seemed to be better than the original for me. However, with the original Erase Pro I had to use 1 EOD because it killed my joints, or 2 Erase every day. With the new one I was able to use 1 EP every day with zero joint issues and noticed better drying out, especially over the duration of the cycle. Original Erase/EP I noticed I would dry out pretty quick and then the dryness would peak.

I also noticed more androgenic activity with the new erase pro. I always believed 'Arimistane' was more of a cortisol blocker than anti-e.
 
Well my Erase order should be here tomorrow sometime. Look forward to trying it. With that said, how often should I take it? Work out days only or everyday?

Thanks!
 
cbsharpe said:
Well my Erase order should be here tomorrow sometime. Look forward to trying it. With that said, how often should I take it? Work out days only or everyday?

Thanks!
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Everyday.
 
cbsharpe said:
Well my Erase order should be here tomorrow sometime. Look forward to trying it. With that said, how often should I take it? Work out days only or everyday?

Thanks!
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Daily. Dosing/timing is dependent on the individual and you have to find your own "sweet spot".

As has been mentioned here before, definitely prefer the OG. I have never had joint issues with it, and in fact, the higher my dosage, the better my joints are (I use 5-6 caps a day). OG Erase was one of my top three products of all time!

To whomever asked re GDA, definitely Recompadrol - has been my #1 since I first tried it.

~Rosie~
 
Thanks Rosie
Long time no see. Hope all is well ;)

Rosie Chee said:
Daily. Dosing/timing is dependent on the individual and you have to find your own "sweet spot". As has been mentioned here before, definitely prefer the OG. I have never had joint issues with it, and in fact, the higher my dosage, the better my joints are (I use 5-6 caps a day). OG Erase was one of my top three products of all time! To whomever asked re GDA, definitely Recompadrol - has been my #1 since I first tried it. ~Rosie~
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halfhuman said:
Damn hard to hear the new erase is not all that good
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Anytime a formula change happens, it gets knocked before it even is released. I have just began my second bottle of Erase Pro and the longer Im on it, the better is gets.

I believe because the results were so immediate on the OG, that people are knocking the new formula for taking so long.
 
I am happy to hear you are getting good results ;)

That said, I could not disagree more LOL

Most things on thios board get pimped to the extreme before honest/candid feedback is ascertained ;)

mechka_grizli said:
Anytime a formula change happens, it gets knocked before it even is released.
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Whacked said:
I am happy to hear you are getting good results ;)

That said, I could not disagree more LOL

Most things on thios board get pimped to the extreme before honest/candid feedback is ascertained ;)
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Lol, that statement was in regards to formula changes. If its a new product release they yeah I agree things can get out of hand. But, when its a formula change to a product that everyone likes, people tend to knock it as being inferior to the original before its even released
 
I hear ya ;)
 
Whacked said:
I am happy to hear you are getting good results ;)

That said, I could not disagree more LOL

Most things on thios board get pimped to the extreme before honest/candid feedback is ascertained ;)
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Check the Nutraplanet ratings lol. All of our products (and threads now) are rated at 1 star before they are released.
 
Rosie Chee said:
Daily. Dosing/timing is dependent on the individual and you have to find your own "sweet spot".

As has been mentioned here before, definitely prefer the OG. I have never had joint issues with it, and in fact, the higher my dosage, the better my joints are (I use 5-6 caps a day). OG Erase was one of my top three products of all time!

To whomever asked re GDA, definitely Recompadrol - has been my #1 since I first tried it.

~Rosie~
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Ohla chica!
 
mechka_grizli said:
Anytime a formula change happens, it gets knocked before it even is released. I have just began my second bottle of Erase Pro and the longer Im on it, the better is gets.

I believe because the results were so immediate on the OG, that people are knocking the new formula for taking so long.
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Be aware that Erase and Erase Pro are two completely DIFFERENT products - Erase Pro is not a reformulation of Erase, but there now is a reformulated Erase.

Erase [OG] and Erase Pro was actually a good stack:)

Oh, and yes, HI JOSH!!!

~Rosie~
 
mechka_grizli said:
Anytime a formula change happens, it gets knocked before it even is released. I have just began my second bottle of Erase Pro and the longer Im on it, the better is gets. I believe because the results were so immediate on the OG, that people are knocking the new formula for taking so long.
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I agree.

I hear it takes a while to see results.
 
if pes were to make the formula 25% stronger and split it into a 2-3 cap option i think it would be much better. i like the ingredients, just feel that for me at least, it is underdosed.
 
I'm taking 5 caps a day of the original erase.

I'm not gonna start thinking much of it till I'm done with it.

After this OG erase I'm gonna go with Erase Pro.

And I'm positive I'll be dosing more than 1 of those a day.
 
Johnold said:
I'm taking 5 caps a day of the original erase.

I'm not gonna start thinking much of it till I'm done with it.

After this OG erase I'm gonna go with Erase Pro.

And I'm positive I'll be dosing more than 1 of those a day.
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Erase Pro you can use 1-3 caps a day. Anything more might be a bit "much", but in the end your "sweet spot" is YOUR sweet spot.

~Rosie~
 
Rosie Chee said:
Erase Pro you can use 1-3 caps a day. Anything more might be a bit "much", but in the end your "sweet spot" is YOUR sweet spot.

~Rosie~
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Well I'm under the impression that these new formulas do work but need higher capsule dosing.

I wouldn't do 4 or 5 caps of Erase Pro like I am doing with regular erase.

If this is the understanding of epro then why does dosing say 1 capsule a day?
 
Johnold said:
Well I'm under the impression that these new formulas do work but need higher capsule dosing.

I wouldn't do 4 or 5 caps of Erase Pro like I am doing with regular erase.

If this is the understanding of epro then why does dosing say 1 capsule a day?
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It is not one size fits all. Some need high dosages than others. I myself have only had to use 1 cap of the new Epro. Another user dosed 1 EP and 1 reg.
 
Johnold said:
Well I'm under the impression that these new formulas do work but need higher capsule dosing.

I wouldn't do 4 or 5 caps of Erase Pro like I am doing with regular erase.

If this is the understanding of epro then why does dosing say 1 capsule a day?
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Like mechka_grizli noted below, it's not a "one size fits all". Recommended dosages are generally what is recommended to either a) get the best results using the product, or b) as a starting point to find your "sweet spot" for best results. Everyone is different.

~Rosie~
 
Yeah I understand. I'm definitely going to play with the dosages.

I ever only needed 1 cap a day with the Arimistane version of Erase Pro.

I'll definitely start with 1 cap a day. But I truthfully don't see myself using only 1 a day since it's weaker from what has been noted from others.
 
the point being, og erase pro was very effective at 1 cap, i don't know of anyone who needed to use 2 caps to get an effective dose!!!
 
thebigt said:
the point being, og erase pro was very effective at 1 cap, i don't know of anyone who needed to use 2 caps to get an effective dose!!!
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This is 100% fact.

I started fasting and calorie deficits before being introduced to PES back then.

I already started to shed weight fasting and on a deficit. But at about 2.5 weeks into the old Arimistane Erase Pro it started some kind of Greek god AKA 300 abdominal area suddenly. I was like "what is this stuff!?"

It scared me how fast it worked. On top of getting really strong on the old ABE too!

I was actually making cuts and muscle gains on a DEFICIT! Everyone I know that worked out and knew what I was doing were scratching their heads in amazement "how are you putting on muscle or maintaining on such low calories!?"

I will always be in awe on how well the old PRO & ABE worked! ALWAYS!
 
Oh yeah, that's not to say that I'm not going to try this new Erase Pro.

I ordered ABE & PRO again for the first time since their reformulation.

Ordered today. ABE is a bit cheaper right now on NP. So I ordered both today.

Gonna give the new pro a GO.

Boerhaavia Diffusa (Root) Extract is the only thing in the Original Erase I haven't tried so I'm gonna try erase pro.

Apparently that ingredient is the diuretic .

Hoping it does its job.

And I'm looking forward to trying the new ABE all around. But mostly so cause the Anacyclus Pyrethrum is made stronger and I'd like to try it FROM ABE again. Plus the Forskolin. Looking forward to ABE.

I like the original Anabeta too. But might as well give the new stuff a go again.
 
Sorry I saw this so late, are there any lingering questions. The formula was indeed made with the consumer in mind...who else would be in mind when we made it? Getting a totally novel and never before used ingredient was expensive and time consuming. Not just manufacturing, but actually finding something this effective in nature took a lot of time and energy. Several users and our testers liked it better than the old erase; similarly, many users prefer the old Erase. This is what happens with any product revision.

A great example is Slin sane. The 2nd version was way better than the 1st, but people demanded to have the 1st back and so they reverted. Another example is AMP v1 vs v2 by E-pharm. And the list goes on. It comes with the territory of changing a formula people love.

The difference here is that those two brands reverted to formula #1 because of the feedback. For us, the feedback has been mostly positive (remember, there's a large world outside of the forums and we're carried at the 3 letter store too).

The science and anecdote both back up Erase v2 over v1, and while we can't please everyone, when all things are considered, this is certainly an improvement over the previous version.
 
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