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DC's New Year, New Life 2019

DemntedCowboy said:
When I get some cash, I will go talk to the doc that did my wife's tummy tuck, and see what he thinks about it. Thank you, I always felt like it was gyno to, mixed with a bit of chest fat.
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I'd try torem everyday for a month an see what happens. Torem is the sh1t I need a source.
 
Cgkone said:
I think they recently came up with the secret plan I don't think that's been the idea of the whole time.
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Yes, that is what they said, a;though time frame shouldn't really matter here. Here rather than wasting anyone else's time that doesn't want to know what transpired just go read this if you want to see what this is all about. Invalid Link Removed

DC for what it is worth, sorry for the gyno comment. I know that crap sucks personally and it was not classy of me, and out of character. Regardless of how I feel about this situation I shouldn't have gone there.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Yes, that is what they said, Here rather than wasting anyone else's time that doesn't want to know what transpired just go read this if you want to see what this is all about. Invalid Link Removed

DC for what it is worth, sorry for the gyno comment. I know that crap sucks personally and it was not classy of me, and out of character. Regardless of how I feel about this situation I shouldn't have gone there.
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I appreciate the apology.
 
thebigt said:
doubtful...what is estrogen at?
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Dont know actually. I was fat at 212 lbs. At my biggest. Then after I dropped to 168 my old training partner turned me on to cycles. My first cycle was 600 test a week, no AI, no PCT. But I never had itchy nips or anything else. But, it was probably cause my test was so low as well.
 
DemntedCowboy said:
Dont know actually. I was fat at 212 lbs. At my biggest. Then after I dropped to 168 my old training partner turned me on to cycles. My first cycle was 600 test a week, no AI, no PCT. But I never had itchy nips or anything else. But, it was probably cause my test was so low as well.
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you need to get estrogen checked-YESTERDAY!!!
 
ok, DC...here is some advice. drop the 'roid's' other than trt, get estrogen checked, look at something like torem ran at a dose that won't completely tank estrogen...and then consult with one of the knowledgeable guru's on here about a course of peptides/sarms.

I truly think peptides/sarms will be more beneficial to you than what you are doing.
 
thebigt said:
ok, DC...here is some advice. drop the 'roid's' other than trt, get estrogen checked, look at something like torem ran at a dose that won't completely tank estrogen...and then consult with one of the knowledgeable guru's on here about a course of peptides/sarms.

I truly think peptides/sarms will be more beneficial to you than what you are doing.
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I have gotten bloods done brother. I got them through the VA for Entourage Hormones.
 
thebigt said:
ok, DC...here is some advice. drop the 'roid's' other than trt, get estrogen checked, look at something like torem ran at a dose that won't completely tank estrogen...and then consult with one of the knowledgeable guru's on here about a course of peptides/sarms.

I truly think peptides/sarms will be more beneficial to you than what you are doing.
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Here you go brotherInvalid Link Removed
 
thebigt said:
ok, DC...here is some advice. drop the 'roid's' other than trt, get estrogen checked, look at something like torem ran at a dose that won't completely tank estrogen...and then consult with one of the knowledgeable guru's on here about a course of peptides/sarms.

I truly think peptides/sarms will be more beneficial to you than what you are doing.
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And I have tried SARMS, they are a joke. They dont do **** for me.
 
DemntedCowboy said:
I had a small Umbilical Hernia, and took 2 weeks off of lower body. Nothing surgical, but noticibal.
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If you have a training belt, wear it. Learn to “brace” instead of inflate/extend the belly (that would be a no-no, would likely worsen the hernia, ASAP.)

TAKE IT SLOW!
 
DemntedCowboy said:
Wake-Up(0355):
Shower, TRT+EQ, Supplements

Breakfast(0500): 2 cups Coffee, 2 tsp Creamer, 4 boiled egg whites, 2 whole boiled eggs

Snack(0700): 2.5 servings Kar's Sriracha Peanuts

Snack(1000): 2 scoop Protein Shake

Lunch(1130): Bacon Wrapped Jalapeno Popper Chicken, 2 servings Bacon Wrapped Asparagus

Afternoon Snack(1600): 2 scoop protein shake

Dinner(1735): Same as Lunch

PWO+40mg Tbol(1800)

Warm-Up(Bike): 10mins x 3.53 miles

All Sets 45" Except WU Sets 60"

Incline BB Press: WU-130x15,15 165x7,5,5

Flat DB Press: 60x15,12,12

Machine Bench Press: 130x25,20,20

Cable Crossover(High): 25x20,20,15

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Now that protein intake i like. On gear it's so underrated and misunderstood how much protein you can eat.
 
DemntedCowboy said:
Here you go brotherInvalid Link Removed
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add in a AI, you are not going to tank estrogen at a moderate dose and going by my personal results you should drop some weight pretty quickly. those test results were from before you started this cycle-right? if so estrogen has increased since then I would put money on it.
 
thebigt said:
add in a AI, you are not going to tank estrogen at a moderate dose and going by my personal results you should drop some weight pretty quickly. those test results were from before you started this cycle-right? if so estrogen has increased since then I would put money on it.
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Yes that was before I started. Do you think .5 Adex would work. Or should I go higher?
 
DemntedCowboy said:
Yes that was before I started. Do you think .5 Adex would work. Or should I go higher?
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start low, you can always go higher...keep current with bloods, you don't want to do this without frequently checking where you stand...when is next bloods?
 
I don't think your estrogen should be absurd on that gear you're using or the amount I shall say. I never dose 0.5 adex, I'd be surprised if you need more than 0.25.
 
tyga tyga said:
If you have a training belt, wear it. Learn to “brace” instead of inflate/extend the belly (that would be a no-no, would likely worsen the hernia, ASAP.)

TAKE IT SLOW!
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I had surgery for an inguinal hernia back in July and I still have to work round it. I have a brace I can wear under my trousers that presses the whole tummy and groin area in. I don't wear it day to day but if I'm doing lunges and deadlifts etc. I'll use it. I've had some weird nerve thing going on down my left leg since surgery also but I'm just told full recovery can take months.
 
DemntedCowboy said:
I'm gonna try to keep it at this level but until I get to the store I may have a few days that are lower.
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Do you have myprotein where you are? Having 4 scoops whey can be expensive but they offer great discounts. I get 3 kilos of protein off them for about £36. Does a month easy at 4 to 6 scoops a day.

You obviously don't want to live on the stuff plus their concentrate isn't the best out there but it's better than none and if you mix up a couple of shakes with fruit and/or oatmeal or peanut butter depending on carb requirements it becomes more of an actual meal. Also their concentrate doesn't give me the runs like cheap protein from gnc(holland and barret).

Order online and get it delivered then it doesn't matter when you can get to the shop.
 
Wobmarvel said:
Do you have myprotein where you are? Having 4 scoops whey can be expensive but they offer great discounts. I get 3 kilos of protein off them for about £36. Does a month easy at 4 to 6 scoops a day.

You obviously don't want to live on the stuff plus their concentrate isn't the best out there but it's better than none and if you mix up a couple of shakes with fruit and/or oatmeal or peanut butter depending on carb requirements it becomes more of an actual meal. Also their concentrate doesn't give me the runs like cheap protein from gnc(holland and barret).

Order online and get it delivered then it doesn't matter when you can get to the shop.
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No dont think we do. But, I do get a discount now from the company I rep. Still have to try their protein, but I just bought the 5lb jug I have so. I will get some more at a good price soon enough and give it a go.
 
DemntedCowboy said:
No dont think we do. But, I do get a discount now from the company I rep. Still have to try their protein, but I just bought the 5lb jug I have so. I will get some more at a good price soon enough and give it a go.
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Sounds good. Like I said don't base your whole diet on it but if it's a choice of not getting your protein in or grabbing a shake then the shake option is by far the best. I tend to go for cinnamon flavours where possible because once you start adding a lot of stuff some flavours just don't work or undetectable. Vanilla is a good option too as it will go with pretty much anything.
 
Wobmarvel said:
Sounds good. Like I said don't base your whole diet on it but if it's a choice of not getting your protein in or grabbing a shake then the shake option is by far the best. I tend to go for cinnamon flavours where possible because once you start adding a lot of stuff some flavours just don't work or undetectable. Vanilla is a good option too as it will go with pretty much anything.
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Yeah I would rather, get my protein from whole foods, but right now this is an option until I get to the store to pick up a few more things. Right now the one I got is Cookies n Cream. It isnt bad
 
DemntedCowboy said:
Yeah I would rather, get my protein from whole foods, but right now this is an option until I get to the store to pick up a few more things. Right now the one I got is Cookies n Cream. It isnt bad
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Yeah exactly. Whole foods always better but with work, family etc etc it’s just not always practical. I use powder/bars for convenience and as a treat. I try to make sure it’s 25% or less of my daily protein intake.....

That last food and macro split was exactly the sort of thing I’d be aiming for by the way DC - looked great
 
Whisky said:
Yeah exactly. Whole foods always better but with work, family etc etc it’s just not always practical. I use powder/bars for convenience and as a treat. I try to make sure it’s 25% or less of my daily protein intake.....

That last food and macro split was exactly the sort of thing I’d be aiming for by the way DC - looked great
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The one I have now is 21g of Protein per scoop.
 
One of the hardest things for me to give up while doing low carb. Steel cut oats is one of my favorite breakfast foods.
 
Whisky said:
Yeah exactly. Whole foods always better but with work, family etc etc it’s just not always practical. I use powder/bars for convenience and as a treat. I try to make sure it’s 25% or less of my daily protein intake.....

That last food and macro split was exactly the sort of thing I’d be aiming for by the way DC - looked great
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Thanks brother. That is what I am shooting for. Doesnt always work out for me that way, but picking up some food after the Arnold on Saturday should be able to put me back on track.
 
Chados said:
I don't think your estrogen should be absurd on that gear you're using or the amount I shall say. I never dose 0.5 adex, I'd be surprised if you need more than 0.25.
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this...and get a female hormone panel and have them check prolactin-along with estrogen...


how long have you been on trt?
 
MA Research Toremifene is legit.

Raloxifene is REALLY what you want to attempt to treat gyno. 120mg for a month at least, then 60mg for a while. Nothing starves gyno of estrogen at the chest receptor better, while leaving your e2 levels unaffected.

Radarine/RAD140/Testolone also is a terrific oral to compete/protect the estrogen receptors at the chest (both my real life experience and in pubmed), so a good oral option during your blast right now at 10-20mg for 4-6 wks. I think it works as good or better than Proviron, which you could also use at 75-100mg/day but wouldn’t give gains or sides like Rad.

All of these except Proviron can be ordered from a RC site legally.

You have both gyno and pseudogyno. I have had removal surgery, and learned a ton over years about it - PM me if you want any info.

Food choices looking really strong btw.
 
Hyde said:
MA Research Toremifene is legit.

Raloxifene is REALLY what you want to attempt to treat gyno. 120mg for a month at least, then 60mg for a while. Nothing starves gyno of estrogen at the chest receptor better, while leaving your e2 levels unaffected.

Radarine/RAD140/Testolone also is a terrific oral to compete/protect the estrogen receptors at the chest (both my real life experience and in pubmed), so a good oral option during your blast right now at 10-20mg for 4-6 wks. I think it works as good or better than Proviron, which you could also use at 75-100mg/day but wouldn’t give gains or sides like Rad.

All of these except Proviron can be ordered from a RC site legally.

You have both gyno and pseudogyno. I have had removal surgery, and learned a ton over years about it - PM me if you want any info.

Food choices looking really strong btw.
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Good advise, I used SERMs to fight off Tren/Deca gyno issues I had last year... All gone now, no surgery, and I notice RAD-140 had a positive effect to fight gyno too when I took it, by chance after a cycle that left me with some gyno.
 
thebigt said:
this...and get a female hormone panel and have them check prolactin-along with estrogen...


how long have you been on trt?
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I have been on TRT for 17 weeks. And they did full panels. They are somewhere in this thread. We did pre bloods, week 8 bloods, and we are doing bloods again in 8 weeks I believe
 
Hyde said:
MA Research Toremifene is legit.

Raloxifene is REALLY what you want to attempt to treat gyno. 120mg for a month at least, then 60mg for a while. Nothing starves gyno of estrogen at the chest receptor better, while leaving your e2 levels unaffected.

Radarine/RAD140/Testolone also is a terrific oral to compete/protect the estrogen receptors at the chest (both my real life experience and in pubmed), so a good oral option during your blast right now at 10-20mg for 4-6 wks. I think it works as good or better than Proviron, which you could also use at 75-100mg/day but wouldn’t give gains or sides like Rad.

All of these except Proviron can be ordered from a RC site legally.

You have both gyno and pseudogyno. I have had removal surgery, and learned a ton over years about it - PM me if you want any info.

Food choices looking really strong btw.
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Thanks for the info brother. Will look into all that, and I will be talking to the doc that did my wife's tummy tuck. He is the top surgeon in Michigan. I did good yesterday with the food. Today, I got some good protein in but screwed the pooch with Carbs . Will have to tighten that up tomorrow. Will post it as soon as I'm out the gym.
 
off topic but big fire there in michigan...I think auburn hills, you anywhere near there, DC?
 
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