CYCLE QUESTIONS

hman85 said:
I was even using 1inch pins in the traps I wouldn't go below 1 inch pins if you can help it(except delts). The deeper the better to a point.Glute shots are cake but they are hard to do by yourself.
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Not doing any of the shots by myself. My wife is a nurse and even when she was 15 years old, she gave her mother her diabetic insulin shots.
This is one area where I'm covered. :439:
 
thundergod said:
Not doing any of the shots by myself. My wife is a nurse and even when she was 15 years old, she gave her mother her diabetic insulin shots.
This is one area where I'm covered. :439:
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I would recommend doing glutes then, you really want to rotate as much as possible to avoid scar tissue.imo
 
hman85 said:
I would recommend doing glutes then, you really want to rotate as much as possible to avoid scar tissue.imo
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Still a scared little bitch after reading of guys hitting their sciatic nerve by mistake. I remember TripDog (where the Hel did he go?) telling me he hit his and couldn't train or walk right for many months. Not going to happen to Thunder.
I saved that site you PM'ed me to my favorites. It was exactly what I needed. Going to hit delts, traps, and triceps. SETTLED!!!!
Now come on Europe, send me my shizz!!!!!!:nervous:
 
thundergod said:
Still a scared little bitch after reading of guys hitting their sciatic nerve by mistake. I remember TripDog (where the Hel did he go?) telling me he hit his and couldn't train or walk right for many months. Not going to happen to Thunder.
I saved that site you PM'ed me to my favorites. It was exactly what I needed. Going to hit delts, traps, and triceps. SETTLED!!!!
Now come on Europe, send me my shizz!!!!!!:nervous:
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I haven't seen tripp in the days... knowing what crazy **** that guy was ingesting/injecting who knows where he is now.
 
GMG760 said:
I haven't seen tripp in the days... knowing what crazy **** that guy was ingesting/injecting who knows where he is now.
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I think those days were already behind him when we saw him posting. He was running stuff like DTHC and natty stuff. But who knows?
I'm salivating (we say slobbering down here) for this to get underway. Gotta hear about the Natadrol tomorrow though. I can wait.
 
GMG760 said:
I haven't seen tripp in the days... knowing what crazy **** that guy was ingesting/injecting who knows where he is now.
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He is on here every once in a while. i think he is consumed with his girl, when he started not logging is about the same time he got this new gf so maybe thats it. who knows? That guy was crazy shredded though!
 
I believe you're overthinking it.

Do you have any idea how small of a possibility it is for you to hit your sciatic nerve? Damaging it to that point is even smaller of a chance. Just don't jam the needle in. When I pinned, I went slow to make sure I don't puncture a nerve. If you hit a nerve going slow it's not nearly as bad. It's not comfortable, but you react quick enough to avoid damage.

Triceps are a crappy place to inject, or at least were for me. I was pinning at least 1.5ml at a time, and tris/bis only hold about 1ml unless they're monstrous, and even 1ml is uncomfortable, so one injection turned into two for me.

I say again, Delts/Glutes/Lats/Quads. You need AT LEAST three rotation spots (6 total) with injenctions this often. I shot 200mg TP and 50mg TA every day for 13wks in 4 rotation spots (8 total) and even that was meh. I was getting bad scar tissue towards the end. Needles squeeking going in; real hard to inject.
 
Irish Cannon said:
I believe you're overthinking it.Do you have any idea how small of a possibility it is for you to hit your sciatic nerve? Damaging it to that point is even smaller of a chance. Just don't jam the needle in. When I pinned, I went slow to make sure I don't puncture a nerve. If you hit a nerve going slow it's not nearly as bad. It's not comfortable, but you react quick enough to avoid damage.

Triceps are a crappy place to inject, or at least were for me. I was pinning at least 1.5ml at a time, and tris/bis only hold about 1ml unless they're monstrous, and even 1ml is uncomfortable, so one injection turned into two for me.

I say again, Delts/Glutes/Lats/Quads. You need AT LEAST three rotation spots (6 total) with injenctions this often. I shot 200mg TP and 50mg TA every day for 13wks in 4 rotation spots (8 total) and even that was meh. I was getting bad scar tissue towards the end. Needles squeeking going in; real hard to inject.
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I bet all first timers overthink this thing. ha ha I'm settled. Traps, Delts, and Tri's. My arms aren't monstrous, but by my avi you should be able to see that they're not exactly tiny either......I hope:nervous: I'll only be pinning 1ML each shot so that shouldn't present too much of a problem, just slow and steady getting it all in there.

You shot 1400mg. of Test-Prop each week? :yikes:That equates to like 2 grams of Test-E or Cyp!!! I hope I don't need that much!!
Please belive me when I say that ALL of your help and input is much appreciated Irish. Like I've said before, it's not the pain that bothers me. Just want to watch out for scar tissue build-up and obvious holes.
 
Ya, scar tissue is a pain. You're only hitting EOD, and for a shorter time frame, so that won't be too bad.

Ya, I shot up a lot man. It was crazy. I was on top of the world psychologically, but I actually wasn't THAT impressed in terms of physique change. I don't respond that well to a lot of hormones, and that includes test. Genetics still play a huge rule.

I gained more weight and strength from both epithio and DMT than I did that cycle.
 
Irish Cannon said:
Ya, scar tissue is a pain. You're only hitting EOD, and for a shorter time frame, so that won't be too bad.

Ya, I shot up a lot man. It was crazy. I was on top of the world psychologically, but I actually wasn't THAT impressed in terms of physique change. I don't respond that well to a lot of hormones, and that includes test. Genetics still play a huge rule.

I gained more weight and strength from both epithio and DMT than I did that cycle.
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Thank Odin I stocked up on DMT (4 bottles) and have plenty of epithio's lying around as well.
I've stayed clean for the last 5 or 6 months....so this is going to be soooo sweet!!!

Can I tell these guys the good news yet??? Or you can.....:thanks:
 
thundergod said:
Thank Odin I stocked up on DMT (4 bottles) and have plenty of epithio's lying around as well.
I've stayed clean for the last 5 or 6 months....so this is going to be soooo sweet!!!

Can I tell these guys the good news yet??? Or you can.....:thanks:
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:eek: YOU GUYS ARE HAVING A BABY!?!
 
ahhhhh!!! No babies just practicing!! hahah (no homo) :dump:
 
Thunder, you lucky sunuva :frustrate
 
you put 24lbs of solid beef on your frame and you will be one hell of a big son of a gun, lol.
 
Man this thing is long already. TG did you mention how much you would be taking somewhere in here? I did 800mg Enanthate a week 2ccs in two shots the time I did them. Many moons ago. Damn it has already been almost 15 years. Anyway at 800mg a week it was more than enough. My buddy was taking 400mg of Enanthate and he put on a good bit of muscle. I pretty much only pinned in my glutes, never had a problem in that run until it was over but that was a shut down issue. I didn't know about SERMS and stuff so I shut down hard enough after that I never tried them again. When I tried in my quads it did not work out well for me and I was so sore I didn't want to work legs. I tried once in my shoulder but the meaty part of the glutes was the easiest to do for me. Anyway point being you don't have to be a pro to get it in there. Massage the area when done. I used the same needle for pulling and pinning. I guess it dulls it heck I don't know even a dull needle doesn't hurt so it didn't matter... Not the cleanest method I am sure. I just wiped the cap with alchohal injected air into the vial pulled out my shot, stuck it in asperated then slowly plunged. Pull out at the same angle, don't wiggle around while the needle is in your muscle or you will be sore. Curious again though and dose and dont wanna reread the entire thread so if you could share again.
 
i agree, glutes are the way to go, but i have my wife give my injections and that makes it much simpler.
 
Man adding the Anadraulic State with the SERMS in them while on the Natadrol you probably wont even shut down. The doing the PCT will just put you farther up the ladder. That is one hell of a well thought out stack there. Too bad you aren't getting Anadraulic Pump as well just to round out the hell that you are about to break loose!
 
MrKleen73 said:
Man this thing is long already. TG did you mention how much you would be taking somewhere in here? I did 800mg Enanthate a week 2ccs in two shots the time I did them. Many moons ago. Damn it has already been almost 15 years. Anyway at 800mg a week it was more than enough. My buddy was taking 400mg of Enanthate and he put on a good bit of muscle. I pretty much only pinned in my glutes, never had a problem in that run until it was over but that was a shut down issue. I didn't know about SERMS and stuff so I shut down hard enough after that I never tried them again. When I tried in my quads it did not work out well for me and I was so sore I didn't want to work legs. I tried once in my shoulder but the meaty part of the glutes was the easiest to do for me. Anyway point being you don't have to be a pro to get it in there. Massage the area when done. I used the same needle for pulling and pinning. I guess it dulls it heck I don't know even a dull needle doesn't hurt so it didn't matter... Not the cleanest method I am sure. I just wiped the cap with alchohal injected air into the vial pulled out my shot, stuck it in asperated then slowly plunged. Pull out at the same angle, don't wiggle around while the needle is in your muscle or you will be sore. Curious again though and dose and dont wanna reread the entire thread so if you could share again.
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thebigt said:
i agree, glutes are the way to go, but i have my wife give my injections and that makes it much simpler.[/QUOTE]

This is Prop so I will go with a low beginner's dose of 100mg. EOD. 350 mg. per week......Should equate to 450 of enanthate or cypionate per week.

And for thebigt, I don't have to pin myself either. My wife is a nurse, so it's her job!!
Once again it's settled. 3ML syringe with 25g and 5/8" needle. Sticking delts, traps, and triceps.
Prop kicks quick and that's the way I like things!!!
Gonna kick like a ninja octopus all 8 legs at once!!!! LMAO
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MrKleen73 said:
Man adding the Anadraulic State with the SERMS in them while on the Natadrol you probably wont even shut down. The doing the PCT will just put you farther up the ladder. That is one hell of a well thought out stack there. Too bad you aren't getting Anadraulic Pump as well just to round out the hell that you are about to break loose!
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I've got some SixStar NO Fury that isn't half bad for the price. And I kick it up several notches with some bulk powders that I have. It will be mean....:smite::firedevil:
 
if you have never done test before you are in for a real treat. tell your wife to be ready-test will totally skyrocket libido-i guarantee that nothing you have ever done will compare.
 
thebigt said:
if you have never done test before you are in for a real treat. tell your wife to be ready-test will totally skyrocket libido-i guarantee that nothing you have ever done will compare.
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Know what....I've got a chub just thinking about it!!! :moon::smileysex5::boobies::
 
You are gonna love this thunder! I see some serious size in your future. Are you kick starting it with anything or just straight test?
 
hman85 said:
You are gonna love this thunder! I see some serious size in your future. Are you kick starting it with anything or just straight test?
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If he has any of that Methyl Tren left, I would say run that for the first 2-3 weeks. :439:
 
Thunder man you are gonna be so big when this is over. Not that you arent already but you know what I mean. HYYYUUUUUGGGEE!!!! Yeah that's about the size of it.

Tim, Love the avatar!
 
I am glad to see my man TG getting a crack at Natadrol. He is one of the guys that really sold me on LG and the goodness of MMV2. That will be very nice!
 
Silver3CSRT8 said:
I am glad to see my man TG getting a crack at Natadrol. He is one of the guys that really sold me on LG and the goodness of MMV2. That will be very nice!
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hell yeah, he had a whole crew of us on the mmv2-many of us who never would have messed with it if not for tg. sheit the forum was full of mmv2 logs, due in part to tg.
many people don't remember that legal gears reputation was in the gutter at that time, and no one trusted them.
 
I'm VERY interested to see how he'll respond due to his large experience with oral hormonal products. I don't know too many guys who have taken something as strong as methyl-tren. When you have to dose in the mcg-range, you know that stuff is rough!

TG has been great, and always has logs are always hysterical and extremely entertaining, with, of course, hardcore training on the daily. I'm very excited indeed!
 
thebigt said:
hell yeah, he had a whole crew of us on the mmv2-many of us who never would have messed with it if not for tg. sheit the forum was full of mmv2 logs, due in part to tg.
many people don't remember that legal gears reputation was in the gutter at that time, and no one trusted them.
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It's a shame what a bunch of lies over at BB.com forums can do to a company. It seems every company rising to the top has to deal with it over there.
 
It really is sad
 
hman85 said:
You are gonna love this thunder! I see some serious size in your future. Are you kick starting it with anything or just straight test?
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Read page 1 nukka!!! ha ha I'll kick it off with AlphaTren which is 40mg. of Tren Percursor and 10mg. of Phera (MDT) per cap and will chomp on 3 caps per day for the first 4 weeks of the injectablese. Then will toss in something else like maybe epithio to dry out the last 4 to 6 weeks!! This will be a 10 weeker no matter what!! It's gonna be sweet as fresh vagina!!!

tim1985 said:
If he has any of that Methyl Tren left, I would say run that for the first 2-3 weeks. :439:
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Not this time. Will do that on the later in the year Test-Cyp!! That will rock da hizzy fo sho!!

MrKleen73 said:
Thunder man you are gonna be so big when this is over. Not that you arent already but you know what I mean. HYYYUUUUUGGGEE!!!! Yeah that's about the size of it.
I'm trying to get skinny right now to put on the real muscle!!
Tim, Love the avatar!
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Getting skinny right now on purpose just to replace it with pure muscle. Gonna scare the shitt outta the wee people!!!

Silver3CSRT8 said:
I am glad to see my man TG getting a crack at Natadrol. He is one of the guys that really sold me on LG and the goodness of MMV2. That will be very nice!
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Too kind brotha....too kind.
thebigt said:
hell yeah, he had a whole crew of us on the mmv2-many of us who never would have messed with it if not for tg. sheit the forum was full of mmv2 logs, due in part to tg.
many people don't remember that legal gears reputation was in the gutter at that time, and no one trusted them.
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I am utterly overwhelmed at the props and respect I have around these parts. I scratch my head in amazement every time I run a thread. Do you guys really dig these Thunder threads so much!!!

MATTYO1977 said:
Absolutely right. That was one of the reasons I made the choice to dabble with the LG's.
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Thanks again super-size MATTY!!! U big ol' hoss you!!!

Now....for some bad news. I've been so excited the last few days I decided to brew up some big storms in my area which resulted in a tornado just miles from my stronghold. Knocked out my power for a while and maybe killed the power supply on my PC. I'm at the local freakin' library right now just to update this.
A guy is coming to my place later today to give me the verdict on my less than 3 years old DELL PC. I hope it can be back up and running today or really soon. :D
Log will be up when I receive my goodies regardless.
Irish Cannon, no worries there bro. I will come to the library 3 times per week if I have to after workouts just to update.
I WILL NOT FORSAKE THIS LG LOG!!!
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THats the problem with all these noob boobs man!!! Trashin a name that they don't even give a fair shot too!!! I'm still new to teh game but i've done my fair share soo far of experimentation soo far and there are always positives to look at first. . .if the negatives out way the positives then we must move on to the next!!!! PPL THESE DAYS :dump: i would like to :slap: em tell to take a hike. . :firedevil: WOOOOO HOOOO!!!
 
TALES OF HORROR FROM THE TEMPLE OF TORTURE!!

Here's how it all went down in the temple this morning!!!

CHEST--Decline Machine Bench Presses--200X10, 380X11, 380X9>270X12>200X20!! And that smoked those titties like the Yule ham!!
BACK--Reverse Grip Bentover Rows with EZ Bar--135X10, 275X10, 275X8>205X12>165X16. These are pulled to the lower abs for some low back thickness. I think my lat spread shot shows how thick it is down there...
SHOULDERS--DB Upright Rows--30'sX10, 50'sX12, 50'sX10>40'sX12>25'sX14...seems like baby weights but I pulled them up high to the forehead. Just sweet pain.
TRICEPS--Lying Triceps Extensions with EZ Bar--95X10, 165X11, 165X11>115X12>95X14. Will increase weight on these next go around!
BICEPS--Standing EZ Bar Curls--75X10, 145X14, 145X14>115X12>75X15. And will have to add plates here too. Felt strong with the power of the living lightening running through my veins!!
QUADS--Seated Leg Press--Harder than an angled one for sure. 200X15, 600X15, and then went crazy with 400X30 insane reps. Paused at 20 and 25 but kept it going.
HAMSTRINGS--One-Legged Standing Leg Curls--60X15, 120X10, 120X10>90X12>75X16. And these burnt the hammies to a crisp!! Love this workout Mr.Kleen, you ol sadistic son-of-a-gun!!
CALVES--Seated Calf Raises on the Leg Press Machine--200X15, and then just 1 big ol' set of 400X15!!!
And then I had to climb several flights of stairs at this library!! Hela's sweet deadly kiss!!!!:sgrin::kiss:
I'm so elated at the chance to run that Natadrol cycle that I could hardly sleep last night!! Might have to swallow a few Zannies (Xanax) before I lay down this afternoon in order to get some good sleep before returning to night shift tonight.

I won't get a chance to come back to this log or check in on all you my homies logs if my PC doesn't get fixed today. But I will tear the weights a new one again on Sunday Morning and come back to this Odin-Cursed library on Monday morning to update this thread!!

Peace, Love, And Heavy Ass Weights to all of you!!! :notworthy::hammer::bye:
 
Irish Cannon said:
I'm VERY interested to see how he'll respond due to his large experience with oral hormonal products. I don't know too many guys who have taken something as strong as methyl-tren. When you have to dose in the mcg-range, you know that stuff is rough!

TG has been great, and always has logs are always hysterical and extremely entertaining, with, of course, hardcore training on the daily. I'm very excited indeed!
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I'm blushing like a school girl who just had her first kiss....
I try to keep everyone's interest high in these logs. Try to inspire everyone to go ball to da wall with their training. And a little laughter is the best medicine!! :smlove2::head:
 
Aaelael said:
THats the problem with all these noob boobs man!!! Trashin a name that they don't even give a fair shot too!!! I'm still new to teh game but i've done my fair share soo far of experimentation soo far and there are always positives to look at first. . .if the negatives out way the positives then we must move on to the next!!!! PPL THESE DAYS :dump: i would like to :slap: em tell to take a hike. . :firedevil: WOOOOO HOOOO!!!
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I've been flamed more than Kingsford charcoal brutha!! And it's like water on a duck's back.....it just rolls right off!!!

My peeps are here at AM. Always will be. I promised Irish to at least copy and paste my effects and gains of the Natadrol over on BigBabies.com:crying:
I'm ready for the 150 lb. weaklings to tell me how to eat and train to be hardcore like they are!!! ha ha ha :scool:

Now....gotta get back to da temple and get that PC fixed. I need to check in on all your logs!!! :type::run:

I'm getting some killer looks from the people here at the library...I'm wearing my sleeveless Road Warriors (legion of doom) shirt and I'm pumped like an over-inflated tire!!!!
 
Irish Cannon said:
Seated Leg Press? Does All-Father approve of this?
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My quads sure do. It's much harder than it sounds Irish. Have you used or seen those old Universal Leg Press stations. Just like those. The 600 lbs. felt just like 800+ on a 45 Degree angled leg press. Straight up pain!!!

I will do Hack Squats Sunday and Machine Squats on Wednesday's workouts. Gotta shake it up on this new routine. My muscles are not gonna get a chance to adapt!!!! :trout:
 
You guys have no conceivable idea how bad I hate to leave here from chatting with all of you....but gotta..... time to do like Sonic the Hedgehog and burn rubber baby:burnout:
 
Interesting. Maybe I've just never seen them go that high. I always see the 16yo chicks using the SLP at my gym, but I think it only goes up to 300lbs or something. Maybe it's totally different. I don't know.

For Quads, I mainly stick to Back Squat, Front Squat, Sled, BB Hack Squat, or some variation of those exercises (single leg, jumping, thrust, etc.).
 
Irish Cannon said:
Interesting. Maybe I've just never seen them go that high. I always see the 16yo chicks using the SLP at my gym, but I think it only goes up to 300lbs or something. Maybe it's totally different. I don't know.For Quads, I mainly stick to Back Squat, Front Squat, Sled, BB Hack Squat, or some variation of those exercises (single leg, jumping, thrust, etc.).
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It IS totally different. This one goes up to 1,000 lbs!!!! :hitit:
 
Let us not forget there are those with massive ridonkulous legs that built them on Leg press and not squats. Leg press are an AWESOME mass exercise for the entire thigh, granted the angle takes a lot of the glute work out but if you are also deadlifting you are really covering all your bases between the two. Now if you don't think I am right about this then have a look at exhibit A :
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Paul Dillet and his crazy legs, hated squats, never did them said the only made his hams and adductor grow not his quads. He swears he built his size on leg press. I had the same issue for the longest time and that is why you wont see a workout of mine that does not have leg press in there somewhere. Squats never completely thrash my quads on their own. My hams and groin yeah severely especially if I go wider but for quads at best is slight soreness. However depending on foot placement I can destroy either the front or back of my thighs at will with leg press.
 
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