no erae pro didn't control gyno on 250mg testosterone per week.
transform reversed lumps on 400g transdermal trestolone per day.
in my experience transdermal formestane at 200mg is almost s strong if not stronger than letro.
another one. how do you explain that me and 2 others just got nothing out of enahnced, just got tired until 3 scoops where we felt a bit ill but still no energy.
one guy is insanely stim sensitive and anything i have given him has made him paranoid basically and he says he feels nothing. it is the eu version. i can only imagine the choline. that's what i told olymmpus, that they made a fantastic pre with their new conquer but it is way to cholinergic, it will probably make people depressed or fall asleep.
also, a preworkout was created in germany that actually does give a user of a normal good pre instant gains of say 6 reps, from 6-12 or 10kg increases.
even i got increases on pullups where i have been stuck for 2 years. (got 100 pounds wide grip for 5, dumbbell sllipped, otherwise may have gotten 6 and a ****ed up seventh, previously 4 and a bad 5th. also height was about 4-5 inches higher.)
now i wonder what makes someone with a scietific background limited in their creation of products? is it the company limiting your budget or is it the fact that theory and practice are two different things here? obviously you are definitely at least regarding some things much more knowledgable when it comes to details, say the guy who made the best pwo i and others ever tried knows a pde-5 inhibitor will make your **** hard, you could probably write 20 pages on it. but what he has is an insane sensitivity for the effects of substances, especially on neurotransmitters and tried every compound there is basically. his own pwo cost him around 12-13 dollars per serving with store bought products, until now his first product is ready and released soon (only in germany. the fun part is, he didn't even give his best formula and will work with a friend who has a suppshop and connections to a new raw material company supplying pharma quality raws. he has the biggest reputation in his city so they will make a bunch of money but that is not the point.
imagine this stack: a given preworkout like alri n gorge nos, old conquer, something with amp, maybe even in best case scenario dlpa, caffeine, chocamine, amp, theanine picamilon, curcumin bcm-95.
this stacked with 2 grams c-o-p, 1-5 grams agmapure, 600mg powergrape, 1 gram lclt, 200mg ubiquinol, 120mg amentoflavone.
or even better: 3 grams of l-carnitine fumarate instead of lclt and added 2500mg tmg, rest same. these stacks have given people anything from 6 reps increases to 14 reps with added weight. (le press 173kgx3 to 193kgx17)
placebo is not an option, the trainers very either very advanced or had no idea what the hell they were taking and what the point was.
now the product has given me and my girlfriend even better strength increases than the last mentioned formulas. of course not 40kg or 20 reps, but increasing weights by another 5 kg or so, after using beforementioned stacks.
of course the production costs of this are very high, but in germany it is expected to sell about 2000 times a month, which for germany is huge, in the US pres probably sell that much in one day lol but it's a completely different market over here, people are much, much less educated, more skeptical but not based on scietific skepticism but simply an "none of this can work" attitude. idiots...
so what i don't get is why are all preworkouts so similar that maybe one that is especially popular gives mildly better resuts than the ohers and then somebody makes something that has such huge increases. there are no drugs, the stims are smooth, mild, the full sercing has under 200mg caffeine and is 11 grams actives and people use mostly around 7 grams.
