COOP-thoughts on TMG?

jbryand101b said:
Yes, but it has to be inserted ass to mouth, so if you don't have one, you'll have to get someone to insert it for you, as hand administration ruins the effectiveness.

Or so I hear
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Glad someone answered this so I didn't have to bump it lol
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Did I mention anyone? Lol...
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coop more smooth then you brotatos likeness no dissimilar brer rabbit/brer fox, but always brer rabbit outfoxing you
 
There I was completely wasting, out of work and down
All inside it's so frustrating as I drift from town to town
Feel as though nobody cares if I live or die
So I might as well begin to put some action in my life

Breaking the law, breaking the law
Breaking the law, breaking the law
Breaking the law, breaking the law
Breaking the law, breaking the law

So much for the golden future, I can't even start
I've had every promise broken, there's anger in my heart
You don't know what it's like, you don't have a clue
If you did you'd find yourselves doing the same thing too

Breaking the law, breaking the law
Breaking the law, breaking the law
Breaking the law, breaking the law
Breaking the law, breaking the law

You don't know what it's like!!
 
Volare, oh oh
Cantare, oh oh oh oh
Let's fly way up to the clouds
Away from the maddening crowds
We can sing in the glow of a star that I know of
Where lovers enjoy peace of mind
Let us leave the confusion and all disillusion behind
Just like bird of a feather, a rainbow together we'll find
 
Bows and flows of angel hair and ice cream castles in the air
and feather canyons everywhere, I've looked at clouds that way.
But now they only block the sun, they rain and snow on everyone.
So many things I would have done but clouds got in my way.

I've looked at clouds from both sides now,
from up and down, and still somehow
it's cloud illusions I recall.
I really don't know clouds at all.

Moons and Junes and ferris wheels, the dizzy dancing way that you feel
as every fairy tale comes real; I've looked at love that way.
But now it's just another show. You leave 'em laughing when you go
and if you care, don't let them know, don't give yourself away.

I've looked at love from both sides now,
from give and take, and still somehow
it's love's illusions that I recall.
I really don't know love at all.

Tears and fears and feeling proud, to say "I love you" right out loud,
dreams and schemes and circus crowds, I've looked at life that way.
But now old friends are acting strange, they shake their heads, they say
I've changed.
Something's lost but something's gained in living every day.

I've looked at life from both sides now,
from win and lose, and still somehow
it's life's illusions I recall.
I really don't know life at all.
 
I know that in the studies have their subjects take 2.5g daily, but TMG is not like creatine and beta alanine so it doesn't have to be taken daily right? Just preworkout and postworkout?
 
Hyperfluxe said:
I know that in the studies have their subjects take 2.5g daily, but TMG is not like creatine and beta alanine so it doesn't have to be taken daily right? Just preworkout and postworkout?
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Take your full dose pre-workout, and yes take daily.
 
More on TMG (scroll down to the bottom)

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I took some before, deff gotta get back into it!
 
So what TMG is everyone buying?
 
NueroJohn said:
I know when I take it all preworkout, my a** explodes during my sets at the gym. I'll be taking with meals for now on too.
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I get in roughly what I guess is 4-5 grams preworkout. If I use Condense, that's an easy 7 grams or so. Haven't had any GI issues personally. (Plazma has 1-2 grams of betaine, it's part of a 6+ gram blend with citrulline malate, Condense has 5 grams with the 2 scoops I use, if I don't use condense, I take 3 tablets of VS TMG which is 3 grams).
 
kissdadookie said:
I get in roughly what I guess is 4-5 grams preworkout. If I use Condense, that's an easy 7 grams or so. Haven't had any GI issues personally. (Plazma has 1-2 grams of betaine, it's part of a 6+ gram blend with citrulline malate, Condense has 5 grams with the 2 scoops I use, if I don't use condense, I take 3 tablets of VS TMG which is 3 grams).
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Dude your gut is invincible!
 
kissdadookie said:
Except for MCT oil. Chit runs right out of me if I don't take in enough solid food with it (handful of nuts seems to alleviate the issue for the most part).
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I still have a bottle of now mct oil but I never finished it. I can't remember if it gave me any stomach problems
 
NueroJohn said:
I still have a bottle of now mct oil but I never finished it. I can't remember if it gave me any stomach problems
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Same here. I use it on HIIT days only. The idea
is that since HIIT is what I do for some fat burning goodness, might as well maximize it. I train first thing in the morning, so on HIIT days, I just get in 1 tablespoon of MCT, 2 tablespoon of P28 for some protein, a small handful of nuts (like half ounce) just so there is something solid for my stomach to digest to prevent GI distress from the MCT. Idea here is to program my body to prefer fats for fuel for the day.
 
kissdadookie said:
Same here. I use it on HIIT days only. The idea
is that since HIIT is what I do for some fat burning goodness, might as well maximize it. I train first thing in the morning, so on HIIT days, I just get in 1 tablespoon of MCT, 2 tablespoon of P28 for some protein, a small handful of nuts (like half ounce) just so there is something solid for my stomach to digest to prevent GI distress from the MCT. Idea here is to program my body to prefer fats for fuel for the day.
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How has that been treating you? I originally bought the mct for cardio I just never used it
 
NueroJohn said:
How has that been treating you? I originally bought the mct for cardio I just never used it
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Can't really tell since it's something I should probably do on a daily basis to notice anything if there is anything to notice, thus it's more or less just peace of mind.
 
kissdadookie said:
Same here. I use it on HIIT days only. The ideais that since HIIT is what I do for some fat burning goodness, might as well maximize it. I train first thing in the morning, so on HIIT days, I just get in 1 tablespoon of MCT, 2 tablespoon of P28 for some protein, a small handful of nuts (like half ounce) just so there is something solid for my stomach to digest to prevent GI distress from the MCT. Idea here is to program my body to prefer fats for fuel for the day.
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Simply eating a small bit of fat before cardio will have zero effect on substrate metabolism. If you want to become fat adapted, you will need a ketogenic diet or starvation for 3+ days
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Simply eating a small bit of fat before cardio will have zero effect on substrate metabolism. If you want to become fat adapted, you will need a ketogenic diet or starvation for 3+ days
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agreed
lots of bastardization on the idea of using mct's....

you want to maximize your fat-burning cardio? then simply stick with some BCAA upon rising, and follow with some fasted cardio
no need for anything else, or trying to get all fancy..
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
agreedlots of bastardization on the idea of using mct's....you want to maximize your fat-burning cardio? then simply stick with some BCAA upon rising, and follow with some fasted cardiono need for anything else, or trying to get all fancy..
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Couldn't agree more. The whole point of HIIT and cardio is to burn calories. Taking 200 cals of fat and PB2 prior to cardio just means that you have to burn 200 more calories on the treadmill? 1 step forward, 2 steps back
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Couldn't agree more. The whole point of HIIT and cardio is to burn calories. Taking 200 cals of fat and PB2 prior to cardio just means that you have to burn 200 more calories on the treadmill? 1 step forward, 2 steps back
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I don't think you guys understood why I do that. From what I understand, what you have for your first meal of the day sets your body up to preference either fats of carbs as an energy source for the rest of the day. I'm not doing it to diet down and burn calories.
 
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