Yeah im hearing sometimes after 10days .. fun beginsLibido boost kicked in during the 2nd week for me.
You running for 8 weeks too ?
Yeah im hearing sometimes after 10days .. fun beginsLibido boost kicked in during the 2nd week for me.
Pct is serm, m-test, letrone, Follidrone 2Serm + Mtest + reduceXT
Xgels + Stim free pre
sometimes you just gotta look fwd to PCT
This is my go to PCT (used to be PCT Assist before M test).Serm + Mtest + reduceXT
Xgels + Stim free pre
sometimes you just gotta look fwd to PCT
You and me bothI am hoping to have a good run through PCT.
You in PCT now bro?You and me both
Next weekYou in PCT now bro?
Whats your cycle been?Next week
Msten 20/20/20/30/30/30Whats your cycle been?
Well, until someone posts otherwise, this is still just your personal speculation. CEL has long been know for its quality so I have my doubts, even though your statements seem logical. The product simply would not be effective, which it has already proven in many cases from users here.This is the unfortunate thing about this product. Fadogia and Tongat Ali are really the big hitters in this formula...if they are quality extracts. At these high doses, I can assure you that they are not, as this product would cost a fortune. The Fadogia PE basically implies that they only used leaf and stem. The extract has to come from the root, and if it was, they definitely would have proudly labeled it as such as it would cost them a good chunk of change. The same principle essentially applies to the Tongat Ali as well. We don't know anything about the extract used, but we can assume it is low quality due to the price. Quality Tongat Ali is very expensive too. My apologies to CEL but this is the truth.
Nice, what were your gains?Msten 20/20/20/30/30/30
Dimethadrol 30/30/30/30/30/30
Dermacrine 0/0/4/4/4/4
Well I still have a week left where I'll test strength so no numbers there yet (pretty certain that I will have pr's on all 3 big lifts)Nice, what were your gains?
nice, hows the liver?Well I still have a week left where I'll test strength so no numbers there yet (pretty certain that I will have pr's on all 3 big lifts)
Weight wise, I'm currently up about 15lb, slightly bloated though atm. I expect to end up around 10lb up with same bf.
everything has been unrealistically good/easy. literally bp only increased like 5 points and has been steady at like 110-115/80 the entire time. Been doing cel cycle assist and OL arimacare pro at 2/3 dose each + 500mg extra tudca daily.nice, hows the liver?
It does, however, as you stated that they were the two "heavy hitters", I would think the results would be pretty sub-par without them impacting it.Well this only accounts for 2 of the 7 ingredients. The other 5 well dosed and high quality extracts are enough to give some noticeable effects in their own right. I would love to hear from CEL!
everything has been unrealistically good/easy. literally bp only increased like 5 points and has been steady at like 110-115/80 the entire time. Been doing cel cycle assist and OL arimacare pro at 2/3 dose each + 500mg extra tudca daily.
it depends. If a brand is able to do the extracting themselves, or formulates using an effective, yet easily attainable extract, then no, thats not the case. Onl in the case of existing extracts and processes would your assumption then be correct.It's OK....I already know the answer. This goes for what....$35 at full price? They would be losing money if the Fadogia and Tongat Ali were even somewhat close to being high end extracts.
I am curious why no rep has directly answered my queries. Silence can speak volumes. Certainly for TKA extraction matters. For me simply saying 'it works' means little as the evidence on this is purely subjective. On this basis 98% of supps could be said to work. Not seen any log where a logger has point blank said the contrary.It's OK....I already know the answer. This goes for what....$35 at full price? They would be losing money if the Fadogia and Tongat Ali were even somewhat close to being high end extracts.
I can speak for myself and most of the reps in that we are not the formulators and dont have access to that type of knowledge (that's pretty much r&d only).I am curious why no rep has directly answered my queries. Silence can speak volumes. Certainly for TKA extraction matters. For me simply saying 'it works' means little as the evidence on this is purely subjective. On this basis 98% of supps could be said to work. Not seen any log where a logger has point blank said the contrary.
Lol. Theres a reason why people who can afford it fly first class or by private jetlol...if I buy a ticket and the plane flies it means it works...I don't need an aerospace engineer to explain to me why, just knowing that it does is good enough!!!
Back on M-test again
Holy moly my dreams are absolutely freaky as! Libido again is through the roof and does anyone get a calming effect?
Like my mind is a touch clearer
Ashwagandha. I love test boosters that include it. I get slighty aggressive, however the ashwagandha keeps me calm at same time. Or maybe it's my bi-polar lol jk.Back on M-test again
Holy moly my dreams are absolutely freaky as! Libido again is through the roof and does anyone get a calming effect?
Like my mind is a touch clearer
I wish M test affected my dreams. Gonna do an 8 week run of it coming up so hopefully I get some sweet dreams on this run!Back on M-test again
Holy moly my dreams are absolutely freaky as! Libido again is through the roof and does anyone get a calming effect?
Like my mind is a touch clearer
If you don't have vivid dreams I will be shocked!I wish M test affected my dreams. Gonna do an 8 week run of it coming up so hopefully I get some sweet dreams on this run!
I could just not be remembering since I never remember dreams lolIf you don't have vivid dreams I will be shocked!
I find them actually way too vivid sometimes lol
I think you'll remember these lolI could just not be remembering since I never remember dreams lol
Awesome, man! Glad it worked so well for you. If you don't mind, drop this is the supp reviews m-test thread too!Ive just finished an 8 week run with M-test and its hands down the best test booster ive taken. Its actually the only test booster that I felt has been worth a damn. started to feel it in 3-5 days and fully kicked in around day 10. What is probably the best is the mood enhancement aspects that tie in well with the boners. Now its great for about 4-6 weeks but then I feel my libido levels out, but that should be expected.
Im 41 and have tried many different things with little to no results besides D-aspartic acid, but that only works on me for a week or two and then I have to cycle off. More recently I have ran Activate extreme and Diesel Test Hardcore and neither of those did anything for my libido, DTH actually lowered it no matter how many caps I experimented with.
Anywho I rate M-test two thumbs and a boner up.
Diesel test didnt worked for you? You most be trolling ...Ive just finished an 8 week run with M-test and its hands down the best test booster ive taken. Its actually the only test booster that I felt has been worth a damn. started to feel it in 3-5 days and fully kicked in around day 10. What is probably the best is the mood enhancement aspects that tie in well with the boners. Now its great for about 4-6 weeks but then I feel my libido levels out, but that should be expected.
Im 41 and have tried many different things with little to no results besides D-aspartic acid, but that only works on me for a week or two and then I have to cycle off. More recently I have ran Activate extreme and Diesel Test Hardcore and neither of those did anything for my libido, DTH actually lowered it no matter how many caps I experimented with.
Anywho I rate M-test two thumbs and a boner up.
You're all the way up!Final review : 2 thumbs and a boner
thats what she saidYou're all the way up!
Diesel test didnt worked for you? You most be trolling ...
Just kidding
If you miss a dose should you just continue on as if you took it? Or take 3 doses the following day spread out to compensate? Also, any reason why it can't be taken in 1 dose of 6 pills during the day?Awesome, man! Glad it worked so well for you. If you don't mind, drop this is the supp reviews m-test thread too!
I would just take normally. Better to stay standard.If you miss a dose should you just continue on as if you took it? Or take 3 doses the following day spread out to compensate? Also, any reason why it can't be taken in 1 dose of 6 pills during the day?
I am currently experimenting with all 6 caps pre bed. Haven't noticed a difference compared to 3/3. Maybe a bit better sleep actually.If you miss a dose should you just continue on as if you took it? Or take 3 doses the following day spread out to compensate? Also, any reason why it can't be taken in 1 dose of 6 pills during the day?
Are you continuing both and how many mg of the td have you been running?I have had to use an AI after about week 3 to combat flare up of pseudo gyno due to Mtest and TD DHEA combo. I do not have bloodwork, just subjective experience. I'm not sure which is the culprit either, to be fair.
Lol yea I was having dreams of my high school crush while I was on my mtestBack on M-test again
Holy moly my dreams are absolutely freaky as! Libido again is through the roof and does anyone get a calming effect?
Like my mind is a touch clearer