CLENVISCERATE the god of fat loss

tnubs said:
oh wow, ya thats a good deal. I was going off the nutraplanet picture that said 120mL since there was no other volume measurements on the page.

so put like 3 squirts of eviscerate with like 4 lil squirts of the clen in hand and mix and rub. that sounds pretty simple
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really simple... just test your tolerances...i did 4 squirts of clen and a 3 or 4 squirts of EVIS and i was cooking like a turkey in the oven for 12 hours...
 
EasyEJL said:
that still sounds like a good bit of clen, 40mcg ?
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You could get 30mcg of clen in a needle, and pump EVI in your hand, squirt 10mcg out, repeat 3 times. Or whatever you want to dose it at.

How would running an E/C stack with this? Since you say you dont get the central sides of clen from applying it this way, im assuming you could run ephedra with it...?
 
EasyEJL said:
that still sounds like a good bit of clen, 40mcg ?
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4 squirts is too much at one time.....thats 80 MCG actually

2 squirts am 2 squirts pm for a total of 80mcg is what i found works the best for me with no sides or excessive frying.

2 days on 2 days off
 
dayday87 said:
You could get 30mcg of clen in a needle, and pump EVI in your hand, squirt 10mcg out, repeat 3 times. Or whatever you want to dose it at.

How would running an E/C stack with this? Since you say you dont get the central sides of clen from applying it this way, im assuming you could run ephedra with it...?
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EC stack is just a weaker form of CLEN... they target the same receptors....from what i have read over the years.

stackin CLENVISCERATE with the EC stack may be redundant...
 
IRONPOPE said:
EC stack is just a weaker form of CLEN... they target the same receptors....from what i have read over the years.

stackin CLENVISCERATE with the EC stack may be redundant...
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I have never taken clen before though, because the jitters and cracked out feeling people talk about.. E gives me more of an adreline rush and focused feeling.. But if I applied clen topical I wouldn't get the jitters/etc... And then be able to take E for the adrenaline/focused feeling an app suppresant.
 
keep in mind the clen is targeting (in theory) just the localized receptors to where the eviscerate goes, where the ephedrine would be systemic.
 
EasyEJL said:
keep in mind the clen is targeting (in theory) just the localized receptors to where the eviscerate goes, where the ephedrine would be systemic.
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also keep in mind that both work to free fatty acids, which still have to be transported into cells to be burned as fuel/converted into heat.

You need a systemic transporter formula to enable your body tokeep up.
 
EasyEJL said:
keep in mind the clen is targeting (in theory) just the localized receptors to where the eviscerate goes, where the ephedrine would be systemic.
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this topic opens up alot possibilites....

what would stack well with Clenviscerate

and my next possible topic.... DNPISCERATE?
 
dayday87 said:
I have never taken clen before though, because the jitters and cracked out feeling people talk about.. E gives me more of an adreline rush and focused feeling.. But if I applied clen topical I wouldn't get the jitters/etc... And then be able to take E for the adrenaline/focused feeling an app suppresant.
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My thinking is you going to burn out the receptors with EC and CLEN combo quickly....

i need the resident experts to chime in on that
 
dsade said:
also keep in mind that both work to free fatty acids, which still have to be transported into cells to be burned as fuel/converted into heat.

You need a systemic transporter formula to enable your body tokeep up.
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So it would be good to run them together then? Hmm, gonna have to try this out.
 
dsade said:
also keep in mind that both work to free fatty acids, which still have to be transported into cells to be burned as fuel/converted into heat.

You need a systemic transporter formula to enable your body tokeep up.
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i've often pondered eating at just maintenance, while using say a combination of something like eviscerate plus injected l-carnitine plus anabolics to get a really really nice recomp
 
EasyEJL said:
assuming that your avatar is you, i'm not exactly sure what color your skin would be, but DNP is the nastiest staining yellow **** you will ever find
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Yeah i forgot about the yellowing..... i tried DNP once..and i get sick on the stomach even thinking about it
 
dsade said:
also keep in mind that both work to free fatty acids, which still have to be transported into cells to be burned as fuel/converted into heat.

You need a systemic transporter formula to enable your body tokeep up.
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Which is where a good stack like Alpha-burn, EGCG, ALCAR, PLCAR, ALA would com in.
 
dsade said:
We sent out a batch with a pump that I am not satisfied with, which is .5ml.

The new pumps, going out today, dispense 1ml per pump.

Each "ab" side (ab and oblique) would take about 1-1.5ml - so one pump and apply one side, one pump and apply the other side, then a pump into your hands, rub together and finish your abs off.
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I musta got that .5ml pump.. my pump barely spits out anything..lol. I am just going to use an old napalm pump i have laying around.
 
OP, topical clen shouldn't be causing a burning feeling. Could cause cramping in the abdomen but not a physical hot burning sensation. I think it's just the eviscerate...
 
dsade,

I just purchased some liquid clen and a bottle of eviscerate. The clen is 30ml at 200mcg/ml. So that makes 6000mcg total. Do I just add the entire clen to 180ml of evis and shake? Does the dose stay the same (3 total squirts for entire midsection)? Thanks a lot!!!

Patrick
 
Logo said:
dsade,

I just purchased some liquid clen and a bottle of eviscerate. The clen is 30ml at 200mcg/ml. So that makes 6000mcg total. Do I just add the entire clen to 180ml of evis and shake? Does the dose stay the same (3 total squirts for entire midsection)? Thanks a lot!!!

Patrick
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i think thats a higher concentration concentration than has been discussed. Thats about 33.3mcg/1ml pump of evis. the OP was using about 40mcg/application. half the bottle would yield similar results. if your dead set on pre mixing it, id test your tolerance at half a bottle and maybe add more if its not too bad.
 
How many ml are the napalm bottles? I thought I remembered the original articles suggesting 5000-6000mcg per bottle.
 
I just noticed you were from Peachtree City. My wife graduated from McIntosh in 2000. My father in law coached lacross there until this year.

...can't send PM's yet lol.
 
Logo said:
How many ml are the napalm bottles? I thought I remembered the original articles suggesting 5000-6000mcg per bottle.
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120mL
 
FYI

Have been a huge fan of Clenpalm for a couple years. I cannot recall at the moment the oral solution mg concentration, but the threshold, for me, for vicosity purposes, was 25% solution added to the Napalm. So with 60ml you add 15ml of oral solution.

It stands to reason that you will want to dose 25% more final solution in order to still apply the same amount of given base product.

I have saved several old AvantLabs Sesamin bottles with their respective metered adapt-o-caps and syringes. Normal max dose of Napalm was 3ml x 2 and I would doses 3.75ml x 2.

Shake very well before drawing.

I just recently completed a 21 day cycle of Clenpalm with the usual excellent results.

Matt, any significant advantages in using Eviscerate over Napalm?
 
So after speaking with Marc McDougal and a few others, I think I'm going to mix the Clen directly with the Eviscerate. Now the question is, 3000mcg/bottle or 6000mcg/bottle. The original Napalm article suggests 6000 while Marc says he had great results with only 3000mcg. I'll probably start with the lower dose. I'll also be taking some ketotifen to prevent any receptor down-regulation.
 
EasyEJL said:
i've often pondered eating at just maintenance, while using say a combination of something like eviscerate plus injected l-carnitine plus anabolics to get a really really nice recomp
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This does sound like an interesting combo, i'm definitely getting more and more interested in injectable L-carnitine.
 
Logo said:
So after speaking with Marc McDougal and a few others, I think I'm going to mix the Clen directly with the Eviscerate. Now the question is, 3000mcg/bottle or 6000mcg/bottle. The original Napalm article suggests 6000 while Marc says he had great results with only 3000mcg. I'll probably start with the lower dose. I'll also be taking some ketotifen to prevent any receptor down-regulation.
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3000 is for the 4 ounce Napalm. Also take into accont dilution with weaker Clen. 6000 should be about right for the 6 ounce Eviscerate.
 
Ok, I'm confused. If you add 6000mcg at say 100mcg/ml to a 180ml bottle of E, you increase the volume of the total solution by 25%. So a typical dose would then be ~4ml rather than 3ml of E.

But, if I did my math right, that would be 100mcg of Clen for every 4ml application. Isn't that rather high?
 
Resolve said:
Ok, I'm confused. If you add 6000mcg at say 100mcg/ml to a 180ml bottle of E, you increase the volume of the total solution by 25%. So a typical dose would then be ~4ml rather than 3ml of E.

But, if I did my math right, that would be 100mcg of Clen for every 4ml application. Isn't that rather high?
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How much is in every dose/pump of Eviscerate? Is it 1ml? If so, then it would be 100mcg of Clen per 4ml dose. I don't know if this is such a big deal when using topically since you'll avoid most of the systemic side effects.
 
I just picked up a bottle of Clen. I guess I'll play around with the dosing. I really don't have anything for measuring that kinda stuff.

I'll try three squirts of E with 1 1/2-2 squirts of Clen,.
 
Logo said:
How much is in every dose/pump of Eviscerate? Is it 1ml? If so, then it would be 100mcg of Clen per 4ml dose. I don't know if this is such a big deal when using topically since you'll avoid most of the systemic side effects.
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In an earlier post in this thread, Dsade mentioned using 1-1.5ml on each side of your abs and then an additional 1ml over all of your abdomen. That would make each application totaling 3-4ml per application. In that case, with Clen already added, you would get 100mcg per app.

Ironpope has been using approx. 40mcg per application, which, if used in conjunction with 3ml E, would mean 2400mcg of Clen should be added per 180ml bottle.

That's a big deficit between that and 6000mcg.
 
i dont think its gona kill u either way. i was of another forum and apparently a few ppl have used up to 500mcg/day in their transdermals..... there was also a log of a guy running 100mcg/day transdermal with 100mcg oral. i believe he lost like 10 pounds in just a tad over a week. i duno how 500mcg would act on the body, but it would most likely be painful and extreme.
 
tnubs said:
i dont think its gona kill u either way. i was of another forum and apparently a few ppl have used up to 500mcg/day in their transdermals..... there was also a log of a guy running 100mcg/day transdermal with 100mcg oral. i believe he lost like 10 pounds in just a tad over a week. i duno how 500mcg would act on the body, but it would most likely be painful and extreme.
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Please do not do this. We finally have something badass effective..last thing we need is something overboard causing a negative reaction somewhere.
 
dsade said:
Please do not do this. We finally have something badass effective..last thing we need is something overboard causing a negative reaction somewhere.
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Your suggestion of using 6000mcg/bottle puts the daily dose at 200mcg/day if dosed 2 x daily. Do you feel that this is safe. There's obviously a big difference between 200mcg/day and 500mcg/day, but 200mcg still seems like a lot!
 
Logo said:
Your suggestion of using 6000mcg/bottle puts the daily dose at 200mcg/day if dosed 2 x daily. Do you feel that this is safe. There's obviously a big difference between 200mcg/day and 500mcg/day, but 200mcg still seems like a lot!
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Let me do the math here...

180ml of eviscerate - you will need to displace 60ml, leaving 120ml. you now have 120ml Eviscerate with 60ml (100mcg/ml) clen.

or 33mcg per ml. With the reduction in Eviscerate concentration, you would want to apply 3-4ml twice a day, or between 200 to 266mc a day.

You're right, I think you should probably add 30ml to a bottle of Eviscerate.
 
dsade said:
Let me do the math here...

180ml of eviscerate - you will need to displace 60ml, leaving 120ml. you now have 120ml Eviscerate with 60ml (100mcg/ml) clen.

or 33mcg per ml. With the reduction in Eviscerate concentration, you would want to apply 3-4ml twice a day, or between 200 to 266mc a day.

You're right, I think you should probably add 30ml to a bottle of Eviscerate.
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Ahh, I see. I didn't even realize I'd have to dump out some of the Eviscerate. I was thinking there might be enough room for the 60ml of Clen. My Eviscerate should arrive today or tomorrow. Whoot!

Thanks for clearing that up!
 
gobig1 said:
Would this combo work? Molecule size of A-Y?
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It would work, yes...but Eviscerate already contains YHCl. No need for it.
 
Ok...listen up before you add your clen. I just put 12ml into half a bottle, cleared the pump, then applied 3ml.

I am absolutely on fire right now.

I highly recommend starting SLOWLY adding the clen.
 
For the love of god! Do your "Google" "RESEARCH" before posting about "CHEMICALS" on this forum.

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