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Interesting Ive never heard of this. The mixture of the two sounds like a good combination to get the job done.
Like a previously mentioned above adding 25% (100mcg/ml) works very well with Napalm. I usually increased my dose accordingly (total volume) by 25%+ (3.75-4.0ml x 2). This would equate to 150-200mcg clen daily.FYI
Have been a huge fan of Clenpalm for a couple years. I cannot recall at the moment the oral solution mg concentration, but the threshold, for me, for vicosity purposes, was 25% solution added to the Napalm. So with 60ml you add 15ml of oral solution.
It stands to reason that you will want to dose 25% more final solution in order to still apply the same amount of given base product.
I have saved several old AvantLabs Sesamin bottles with their respective metered adapt-o-caps and syringes. Normal max dose of Napalm was 3ml x 2 and I would doses 3.75ml x 2.
Shake very well before drawing.
I just recently completed a 21 day cycle of Clenpalm with the usual excellent results.
Matt, any significant advantages in using Eviscerate over Napalm?
Eviscerate has Cap in it.Like a previously mentioned above adding 25% (100mcg/ml) works very well with Napalm. I usually increased my dose accordingly (total volume) by 25%+ (3.75-4.0ml x 2). This would equate to 150-200mcg clen daily.
The question I have is, why are you guys finding this tor burn. Napalm never burned except with cap. Is this a property of Eviscerate?
...that just burns my ass! :laugh2:Eviscerate has Cap in it.
always gotta be cheeky....that just burns my ass! :laugh2:
You guys crack me up.always gotta be cheeky.
damn man!Ok...listen up before you add your clen. I just put 12ml into half a bottle, cleared the pump, then applied 3ml.
I am absolutely on fire right now.
I highly recommend starting SLOWLY adding the clen.
Clen does not burn but capsaicin does.That's why starting off slow with something like clen is a good idea. Test your tolerance. Next time, use less total solution.
Eviscerate has Cap in it.The question I have is, why are you guys finding this tor burn. Napalm never burned except with cap. Is this a property of Eviscerate?
There are some interesting interactions going on - notably straight thermogenesis (which is causing the area to heat up), which then triggers acute sweating, which then amplifies the nerve sensation of the capsaicin (perhaps due to the electrolytes in sweat...straight water doesn't seem to have the same amplitude of nerve signal).Clen does not burn but capsaicin does.
Cen is purported to be mildly anabolic/anti-catabolic - so it might work decently everywhere else for workout enhancement.Mine is on the way. Am I correct in assuming "clenviscerate" would just be for abs, while eviscerate can be used on biceps, delts, shoulders, etc? You wouldnt put "clenviscerate" everywhere would you?
Yes it is....when you shake it up it should go to a lighter tan.lI just received my bottle of Eviscerate and I was a little suprised by the color. Is it supposed to be dark brown in color?
lol welcome to the CLENVISCERATE FAT FRY.... you have too much clen mixed.. I did the same exact thing... and i was looking for a pool to dive it....that heat is incredible aint it.... and yeah aint no wiping it off...any moving around will cause the heat to go up. u have to back down the CLEN a tad.... but believe me u was frying some serious fat cells... just too much to take ..... THIN COAT.... thinnest coating as possible....Ugh. Bad experience. Someone said then clen doesnt burn, its just the cap?
I applied 3 squirts of evis mixed in with 3 squirts of clen ~60mcg..... at first it was nothing then a slight tingling, about an hour an a half later i drove to the gym, since its hot i began to sweat. this must have triggered more absorbtion or something because i was on FIRE. go the the gym sweat more couldnt hardly bench, i swore i had third degree burns on my stomach. after bench and rows i couldnt finish my workout because it was too intense. went to the bathroom to try to wipe it off... too late the water made it worse. went home... warm water felt like acid, took freezing cold water and tons of soap to help out temporarily. it still burns and i dont want to move. FML
im guessing too much clen? i duno what to do i mixed half a bottle of clen 3000mcg with the full bottle of evis. maybe use like one squirt to cover as much area as possible? i would HATE to be at work and feel like this...
Eviscerate is like a boat...thats full of cargo and people....CLEN is small package that fits on the crowded boat...and really turns up the heatIs there any receptor upregulation after stoping the topicals. Specifically from the alpha 2 antagonism from yhcl? And increase in those receptors upon cessation could be horrible! Also what about adding adex in as well to maybe reduce estro levels and a2 receptors in the problem areas? Would these things cause rebound?
Does the skin eventually adapt to the burn/redness people experience thus diminishing effects?
I know u say not to use it orally as well because of possible supersaturation of the receptors but if your already on oral clen and ychl how would u dose down to start the topicals or how would u dose the orals to keep with the topical formula solution?
Any issues with adding topical cort blockers as well and how would u go about mixing them
albuterol would not work topically because its molecular weight is too large to pass through the skin. Its oral only.this is pretty interesting i havent herd of this yet, new to me. i have been on albuterol for a little while now would you be able to do the same thing with it as you do with clen? not sure how it would work out?
How long have u had it on? Sometimes it can take 2 or 3 hours. It seems when ur body starts to sweat, the pores open and it floods in causing the burning (for me, anyways). Go for a little run and see if you feel like your skin is meltingI just took my first dose of Clenviscerate and didn't notice the burning everyone else is talking about. By my estimates, I got 50mcg of clen from three squirts (30ml of clen at 100mcg/ml). Perhaps I'm just not as sensitive to capcaisin. The stuff smells a good deal better than Napalm.
Correct....the second dose of the day will likely burn immediately - but the first application takes a while - and when it hits, wow.How long have u had it on? Sometimes it can take 2 or 3 hours. It seems when ur body starts to sweat, the pores open and it floods in causing the burning (for me, anyways). Go for a little run and see if you feel like your skin is melting
Thermogenesis is systemic. Your overall body temperature should rise noticeably.Is the body heat where applied the only side effect with clenviscerate? Are there any other noticeable sides?
I understand that. Anything else like jitters or any other sides normally that go along with clen?Thermogenesis is systemic. Your overall body temperature should rise noticeably.
No sir...those are central side effects. Clenviscerate's delivery is to targeted tissues.I understand that. Anything else like jitters or any other sides normally that go along with clen?
+1Thermogenesis is systemic. Your overall body temperature should rise noticeably.
I just gave up.+1
my body is mucho hot all over... even had to use stronger deodorant because of the sweating
There are two ingredients hat affect a heat-type of reaction - benzyl nicotinate, a niacin derivative, causes massive vasodilation which manifests as a tingle/burn...and capsaicin, which causes thermoresponsive neurons to fire restulting in the perception of burning.Just to clarify though, its the cap in E that creates the burn correct? The clen just intensifies the burn, is that what I am gathering here?
my experience with it is that the CLEN intensifies the effect...on a linear scaleJust to clarify though, its the cap in E that creates the burn correct? The clen just intensifies the burn, is that what I am gathering here?
And what have been your results with the two combined? How much definition have you gained?my experience with it is that the CLEN intensifies the effect...on a linear scale
i have tried stright Evis and compared to Clenviserate with varied levels of CLEN
and the burn is magnified with CLEN from my experience...
I would love more people to give it a whirl.
i am not a ruler n tape measure guy...and i dont see subtle changesAnd what have been your results with the two combined? How much definition have you gained?
Damn, dude, you mean dieting will actually help too???:laugh2:You gotta remember diet is the key.
what about adding either a topical systemic cort blocker applied somewhere other than the abs or an oral cort blocker? is this even necessary?Eviscerate is like a boat...thats full of cargo and people....CLEN is small package that fits on the crowded boat...and really turns up the heat
if u add more cargo (cort blocker ) this boat wont hold it all and sink....overloading the transdermal carrier....log jam
and since Clenviscerate is site specific to a large extent... maybe rotating the sites every 2 weeks would be effective
say week 1 and 2 lower abs and flanks..... week 3 n 4 chest/upper abs and upper legs
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