sns8778
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I hope so. We always offer everything we make to the UK/EU retailers. I wish they offered a better selection of the lineup. We want to help and provide for our UK/EU customers any way that we can.
Unanswered CEL Anabolic Effect - Natural Anabolic
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I hope so. We always offer everything we make to the UK/EU retailers. I wish they offered a better selection of the lineup. We want to help and provide for our UK/EU customers any way that we can.
Z28Luver7777
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So it’s possible for the release this week?
sns8778
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I wish, but that's not possible. I think you might have misunderstood what I meant.
We are hoping to get label proofs this week. If we like them, then we will order the labels (which takes 7 to 10 days to get in) and move the product into production lineup.
I would say best case, and I don't expect this - would be 3 weeks. Realistically though, I would say the 4 week ballpark.
One of the reasons that I don't normally tease much about new product releases and the reason that I don't like to give concrete ETA's is because too any things can happen - labels don't look the way you think, production delays, weather delays, etc.
Z28Luver7777
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Thank you for clarifying. Regardless, super excited to buy when released
sns8778
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No problem at all. I'm excited as well. We have several things coming up that I'm super excited about.
clevelandsae
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any new updates?
sns8778
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On which particular product? I'm sorry, we've had so many new things come out and so many coming up, I wasn't sure if you were asking about a particular one or just in general.
If asking about Anacyclus - I hope within a month.
If asking about Optimize-T - I hope within 4 to 6 weeks.
If asking about the SNS natural anabolic - I hope within 4 to 6 weeks, maybe less.
booneman77
Legend
for me there was never a specific "kick in" day... just kind of a slow steady continuous improvment. Honestly never actually found an end point either (have run as long as 12wks) so that was always nice too
sns8778
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Most people usually start to see a difference the first week but weeks 3 to 4 seem to be when it really starts to kick in and gets better as it goes. That's why most people run it for 12 to 16 weeks. I saw in a thread earlier today where someone said it was their last week (week 12) and it was continuing to get better every week.
50Magnum
Active member
So I tried this product last summer, and I've tried Vector not too long ago. I got sme strength gains from Vector, but with Anabolic Effect I didn't really get much. I see on the ingredients it has double the korean mistletoe extract compared to Vector and a few other things too. One thing I realized it did to me similar to Vector was it made me a lil sluggish when I took it preworkout, this was like the 2nd week in from both products. I think its either the korean mistle toe or something else that makes me tired. I might run this one more time maybe during the summer time again since it got so many good reviews on here.
sns8778
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How long did you run Anabolic Effect for?
Most people start to see some results within the first week but they really start kicking in for most people in weeks 3 to 4 and then get better as they go. Most people typically run it for 12 to 16 week cycles. I saw today or yesterday where someone said they were in their 12th week and the results were still getting better each week.
I'm not sure if you've seen this log but its incredibly detailed:
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50Magnum
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I ran it for only 4 weeks, Vector too I only ran it for 4 weeks. Within a week I got stronger with Vector while under eating, then second week my strength went up more but it flatlined after that. When I ran Anabolic Effect I was eating at around maintenance, I basically didn't really improve performance wise, I did get some pumps which came from S7 most likely. Lethargy from Vector was worse than AE though, I literally was tired fr 2 hrs after dosing. AE I was slightly tired after dosing but overall I could still workout, it could be my body just doesnt respond that well to KM or something else that both these supplements have.
sns8778
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There are 3 common ingredients that both products have; so it could be any of the 3. I try to not discuss Vector or compare the two out of respect for BLR; but I'll say that that is uncommon with Anabolic Effect but I myself have sensitivities to some ingredients that work great for others.
If you decide to run Anabolic Effect again, pm me and let's work through a couple different dosage timing scenarios to see if we can help with it.
On the other hand, we have a really exciting natural anabolic coming soon under SNS that you can try if you want to try something different. It's super exciting and can be stacked with Anabolic Effect or someone could take one while they're cycling off the other. I can't release anymore info on it quite yet, but it could just be an all around cool other option.
50Magnum
Active member
Ok sounds good.
Z28Luver7777
Well-known member
Do we have a name for the new natural anabolic?
Super excited to get in on this
Super excited to get in on this
sns8778
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We haven't released the name of it yet. We might this coming week. I suck at teasing new products; that's something we definitely need to get better at. A lot of companies excel at pre-promoting and hyping things before they are out and building up demand; we've always been more the type to release great products that will stand and speak for themselves. BUT that does hurt us in terms of lacking the launch hype that some products get so its definitely something we need to get better at.
I will say that it has 9 active ingredients including 4 branded ingredients.
Bagofturdwind
Member
I prefer it this way. The whole ETA in a few weeks that turns into a few months is a tired act and just leads to people complaining.
Come out with the product. Then discuss and hype.
Z28Luver7777
Well-known member
Haven’t been disappointed yet. Looking forward to this supplement
sns8778
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I agree that for a lot of companies its an act. And also, even if a company doesn't want it to be, in this industry a lot of delays can happen. Delays in raw material availability, delays in shipping, delays in production times, etc. So even when its not intentional, it can just happen.
Here's a good example - I had put in the Spilanthes XT thread that orders from last week were shipping tomorrow. What happened was we announced it last Saturday bc tracking showed it arriving Monday. The shipment wound up not arriving Monday and instead didn't get here until Friday. Absolutely ridiculous but absolutely out of our control. And that's the first time I ever remember launching a product that I didn't have in the warehouse but we did it because we thought for sure it would arrive and because we wanted it to be the week 12 new release.
We do need to do a better job of discussing and getting some hype around new releases to let people know about them, but I never want to be viewed as one of the companies that does it and then purposefully doesn't launch on time. We will probably start discussing some products coming up soon and maybe give them their own discussion threads, but I prefer to have discussions versus over hyping and estimated date ranges versus promising a release date.
sns8778
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Thank you for the kind words. I really appreciate it and hope that you'll be very pleased with the upcoming products.
Flappytofloppy
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Has anyone tried stacking AE with iconogenin and/or other ecdysterones? I think I’m going to do a stack of iconogenin, epi-plex, and AE for about 3-4 months and see how that goes. Also what would u say the average total bodyweight/muscle mass increase is on a 3-4 month cycle of just AE? I understand its person dependent, but just a ballpark estimate would be nice 
sns8778
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Has anyone tried stacking AE with iconogenin and/or other ecdysterones? I think I’m going to do a stack of iconogenin, epi-plex, and AE for about 3-4 months and see how that goes. Also what would u say the average total bodyweight/muscle mass increase is on a 3-4 month cycle of just AE? I understand its person dependent, but just a ballpark estimate would be nice
I haven't seen it stacked much with Laxogenin or ecdysterones, probably mainly because both aren't too well liked by most people on here. If you're going to go with a Laxogenin, I do think Iconogenin would probably be the most popular one on AM.
Ep-Plex and Anabolic Effect is a great stack, and a lot of people like to add M-Test to that stack. There are a couple of different logs and reviews going on currently with that stack with great results.
I don't like to throw out numbers as far as increases to expect, so I'll let other people answer that for themselves based on their feedback. It varies by so many factors as to diet, training, experience level, what goals going for at the time (bulking, recomp, etc.) that its just hard to give concrete numbers. But one thing you generally consistently see is that people start to notice a difference in the first couple of weeks and then it really kicks in good for most people on weeks 3 to 4 and gets better as it goes. That's why so many people run it for 12 to 16 weeks like you're thinking of doing. I plan on starting a 16 week run soon myself.
Flappytofloppy
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Yea I guess to be specific I meant what could be a reasonable range of weight increase on a bulk/lean mass phase. Hopefully some people can give their own experience at least to give an idea, although I understand all of the potential differences and factors at play. I have seen 5lb increases and 7lb increases after 3-4 month cycles but they were both people that were advanced trainees going into it, so I’ll be interested to see how other people compare.
Can anyone link their logs? I for some reason can only find like 3 logs for AE
TheMrMuscle
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Yea I guess to be specific I meant what could be a reasonable range of weight increase on a bulk/lean mass phase. Hopefully some people can give their own experience at least to give an idea, although I understand all of the potential differences and factors at play. I have seen 5lb increases and 7lb increases after 3-4 month cycles but they were both people that were advanced trainees going into it, so I’ll be interested to see how other people compare.
Can anyone link their logs? I for some reason can only find like 3 logs for AE
You can find the review of my first run here CEL Anabolic Effect Review - AnabolicMinds.com
Pretty comprehensive about my epxerience.
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booneman77
Legend
I havent seen anyone (at least not in any detail) mention running that combo but it sounds like a real winner that covers a ton of bases.Has anyone tried stacking AE with iconogenin and/or other ecdysterones? I think I’m going to do a stack of iconogenin, epi-plex, and AE for about 3-4 months and see how that goes. Also what would u say the average total bodyweight/muscle mass increase is on a 3-4 month cycle of just AE? I understand its person dependent, but just a ballpark estimate would be nice
For the weight/muscle unfortunately theres way too many variables to sell a number... diet, training, stress, where youre at in your lifting life, etc etc. It would have to be based on your own personal history and comparison to other similar type natty anabolics
GQdaLEGEND
Legend
Yeah i dont think you can go wrong with epi-plex + AE stack .. and if you react well to laxogenin then that would make a nice stack
sns8778
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Yea I guess to be specific I meant what could be a reasonable range of weight increase on a bulk/lean mass phase. Hopefully some people can give their own experience at least to give an idea, although I understand all of the potential differences and factors at play. I have seen 5lb increases and 7lb increases after 3-4 month cycles but they were both people that were advanced trainees going into it, so I’ll be interested to see how other people compare.
Can anyone link their logs? I for some reason can only find like 3 logs for AE
I've seen like you said from 5lb to 7lb increases in people that were advanced trainees; and some people see those numbers and don't realize how impressive that is - but you take someone like Mr. Muscle whose trained all his life and is so consistent - to make the gains off something he has is super impressive. As for feedback we receive, it hasn't been uncommon to hear of 10 to 12+ gains over 16 week cycles. I've had emails from people talking about bigger increases than that, but you never know if its lean or what.
You see a lot of feedback and reviews on Anabolic Effect but not as many logs. And two big reasons for that are that people don't tend to like to log things for long cycles like AE and also because we don't send out free product for sponsored logs. We used to but we had so many people that didn't fulfill their logging obligations that we stopped. But a lot of people were less likely to believe sponsored logs to begin with.
I'm getting ready to start a 16 week cycle of it soon. My layout will be:
- M-Test - I use as a daily supplement
- Inhibit-P - I use as a daily supplement
- Anabolic Effect - 16 weeks
- Epi-Plex - 16 weeks
- Lean Edge - 16 weeks
- SNS natural anabolic - added in as soon as its released.
I've let myself go over the course of the past year bc of a combination of health issues and working so much. My first and foremost goal is just to be consistent and stick with it (if I can be consistent - I have an autoimmune condition that when it flares up, one cannot train thru it). If I can be consistent for 16 weeks, my goal is pretty optimistic but its not a lbs. on the scale goal - I want to body composition wise drop around 20 lbs. of fat while gaining back around 15 lbs. of muscle.
alvin1
Well-known member
update about 2 week in:
Libido went down and weight increase about 3 pounds a week ago, added 1 cap of sns inhibit-E and libido came back and I am down 3 pounds. The shilajit did increase my test and I started converting to estrogen to much. Increase endurance on my run, was running at 6 mile per hours, now I run at 6,5 mile per hour. Increase endurance for sure. I am slowly cutting and training at home so not much of strength gain to report. So far so good!
Z28Luver7777
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alvin1
Well-known member
Finish my first bottle, weight continue to drop 1 pound a week, pump is better, strength seem the same, even do I train only at home. Endurance is crazy! it blow away peak 02 or any cordyceps product I try before that. For somebody doing full body work out that will be a great product. I will keep updating here, I am impress so far
sns8778
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That's great to hear. Thank you for the updates. I'm glad that you're enjoying it.
sns8778
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I'm hoping in around a month of so. It will be in by then, its just a matter of spacing out a few of the upcoming releases a little bit. We have so many big releases coming up that I don't want one thing to overshadow another.
sns8778
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We've been discussing a few different things lately in this thread. Was there as specific one that you were looking for an update on when bumping it? I'm glad to try and answer any questions that I can.
GQdaLEGEND
Legend
I think i responded to you in that thread.
New one VS anabolic effect - both are great options, it gives people chances to stack or come off one and jump onto the other one
for example if you were to do anabolic effect for 8-12 weeks and wants to jump on a different natural builder then you can jump on this new one or vice versa
sns8778
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Thanks. I didn't see the other thread so I replied there now as well.
I would actually encourage you to go with Anabolic Effect over the new natural anabolic for now. Anabolic Effect has a tremendous amount of positive feedback on it and I'm getting ready to start a 12 to 16 week run myself this week.
Plus, the exact release date for Anabolic XT is still an unknown; we are hoping 4 weeks or so but there can always be unforeseen delays in production in this industry.
You mentioned that a 'better' natural anabolic is going to be released soon - the new natural anabolic, Anabolic XT, will be a great product but it works completely differently than Anabolic Effect. It's not that one is necessarily going to be different from the other because they will work differently. They will be able to be stacked together or someone can cycle off of one unto another.
luckuyguy
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GQdaLEGEND
Legend
lolEvery new week is 4 weeks away
sns8778
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Every new week is 4 weeks away
I'm sorry. I do the absolute best that I can do.
The problem with release dates is all I can ever do is give my best guess at the time. And every time I do that, I feel like it disappoints people when its wrong and makes me feel bad and I never want to do that. Which is why I normally don't discuss products before they come out.
A lot of people want us to hype up products and that is what's best from a business perspective, and I do enjoy discussing them with people, but in this industry when you do things the right way and follow all of the GMP processes, delays are inevitable. They always have been but especially now with the way Covid has affected the supply chain.
We aren't a company that is going to rush through or bypass a proper GMP protocol or process to release a product quicker. And we only use contract manufacturers that are GMP compliant and follow all GMP processes and procedures.
In this industry, there are a lot of companies that don't follow GMP processes and some that don't even try to. For example, you hear sometimes a company will say something like they just received an ingredient in and the finished product will be ready in 3 days. What many customers hear is 'awesome, we can buy it in 3 days'; but what people hear that are familiar with the processes is 'wow, no GMP compliant manufacturer can run a product that quick because it hasn't had time to go thru QC and have microbial and heavy metals testing done'.
Unforeseen delays don't always happen because of a particular product or raw material itself; sometimes it happens because labels come in with wrong color, bottle size may not be available at the time, or other existing products sell out unexpectedly and have to be pushed into production ahead of something new we want to release.
In the case of Anabolic XT, the formula had been finalized since October/November, the raw materials have been in since November, but we did not want to release it during the 12 Week of New Releases because we didn't want anything else to get overshadowed by it. Then we tried something different with the label look and didn't like the way the first ones turned out bc of a color gradient so that added a few weeks. Now, its looking like it and Optimize-T will be in around the same time so its just a matter of how to space the releases out because they're both incredible releases and I don't want one to overshadow the other.
sns8778
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Hype it and release the supplement fact come on!! In this pandemic time I bit of hype is welcome!!
Every time I almost get talked into doing it, I worry about the problems that delays will cause if doing so.
It's ironic that there's a please hype it post and then immediately a post about how it isn't out in time back to back. That exemplifies the dilemma I'm in as to whether to do it or not.
If we did hype it, we wouldn't release the full panel right away anyway. That's something we would save for within 2 weeks of the definite release. Think maybe I should do a discussion thread on it to where we can all discuss a little bit about it and I answer what I can?
sns8778
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I like that idea. I was considering something like that. We did something similar with Anabolic Effect when we first released it.
ironkill
Well-known member
Yep, this
booneman77
Legend
I remember that... the old "guess the ingredient and amount" threads were very fun for hyping but also drawing out the lead-up
Z28Luver7777
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sns8778
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I would hope that some retailers may would do something like that. It would be something I would try to get them to do, but sometimes its hard for me to get retailers to do stacks or specials. There are things I pitch to retailers that I think they should be excited about that sometimes they won't do for whatever reason.
From our end, we couldn't do it direct bc even though people on AM view SNS and CEL are related, they are two completely separate companies and the websites are completely separate so there's no way to offer a stack direct bc of the websites being separate.