BUSTER and the CEL TD FORM! GET BIG!

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GMG760 said:
Bullsh*t. Stop spreading your anti-cannabis propaganda. Alcohol effects your ability to synthesize protein. Cannabis does not. Cannabis can mess with people's motivation to go work out, but that is mostly new users. I would say that it is probably safer to smoke herb than it is to ingest most of the dietary supplements that we all take.
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Studies have shown that marijuana lowers testosterone levels in men though
both are bad for you. I don't care what anyone says
scientist and researchers know their ****
but if you look for yourself you can see
any stoner is some punny ass kid or some fat ass kid
 
Heartless88 said:
Studies have shown that marijuana lowers testosterone levels in men though
both are bad for you. I don't care what anyone says
scientist and researchers know their ****
but if you look for yourself you can see
any stoner is some punny ass kid or some fat ass kid
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For every study that says MJ lowers test, there is one that says the opposite. GMG, smokes and hes no slob. I smoked everyday up until a month ago and Im no slouch myself. Your logic is flawed.
 
Havent you seen the video of Arnold cheifin out?
 
Do I look like a skinny ass kid or a fat-ass in my avitar? (since then I have gained 20+ lbs, and probably 0.5-1%BF while smoking pot) I may not be hyuge yet, but that is a picture of someone who had been smoking herb pretty much every day for a good 8 years. You're wrong.
 
I smoke weed everday as well and i definitely don't fall into the category of skinny or fat. So quit quoting government garbage about how horrible marajuana is.
 
well sorry boys you must be an exception
but at the same time some of you guys are running cycles
so the reaction for someone who is not might be different.
 
besides i have nothing against smoking bud once in awhile
i myself used to be a stonerrr for sure
in the begining i grubbed a lot later I just didn't have an appetite.
I wasn't skinny but I wasn't fat.
but then again my body can eat all it wants or not eat and it will look fine
after awhile it just gets old.. money goes and even with some of the best
**** i've had. after awhile you just not get high anymore.
at least for me thats how it was. and like i said with some of the best **** ive had
and i got my hands on some good ****.
but thats my persona on it my experience with it my opinion on it
so don't come off and take this as an offense
we are all different for a reason.
 
a cycle does not define a person's motivation or drive, it is a persons own will which decides things. Quit blaming pot for someones laziness. You are entitled to your opinion but make sure that you have facts before you tell people how horrible it is.
 
Trust me, if weed were to lower testosterone - and make gaining muscle difficult... Money would be like 118 pounds. I've seen damp campfires with less smoke.
 
punthra said:
a cycle does not define a person's motivation or drive, it is a persons own will which decides things. Quit blaming pot for someones laziness. You are entitled to your opinion but make sure that you have facts before you tell people how horrible it is.
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You either must be really ****ing stupid... or can not clearly read english.
or your just a ****ing idiot... I am not trying to tell people how horrible is.
second i wasnt talking about the motivation someone has. I am talking about how it can lower test levels but cyles rise them
go back to school or get your eyes checked please
 
TimberLakers said:
Heartless... make up your mind. Is this "your opinion" or "researchers and scientists that know their sh*t"...?
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ohh **** look who decided to join the thread AHMEN! haha
i swear i knew you would come back stalking me
jk i think your cool timber
anyway it the stuff i wrote was off research and scientists
but i also think the same thing.

welcome to the thread timber.. :wave2:
 
punthra said:
a cycle does not define a person's motivation or drive, it is a persons own will which decides things. Quit blaming pot for someones laziness. You are entitled to your opinion but make sure that you have facts before you tell people how horrible it is.
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Will and drive can override any outside influence. I have seen drunks sober instantly. Our minds have more power in them than we know.

Sorry things arent going the best Busta.

Weed I dont think has too many side effects on your bodybuilding, but it does effect memory. it does effect memory. it does effect memory. LOL j/k.

I think Arnold had a reputation of loving da ganji.

And I know a few people who say its a great around WO's

Beer is what makes it harder for alot of people on here to reach goals.

Just say no to parties, and put a real value on goals.
 
Well if your correct that it lowers testosterone then why are my test levels in the normal range when i smoke everyday. I'm not on cycle so that blows your little theory out of the water also. I suppose it proves your intellectual genius by calling me stupid and illiterate. Not once have i personally bashed you, but your arguments have now been relegated to that.
 
punthra said:
Well if your correct that it lowers testosterone then why are my test levels in the normal range when i smoke everyday. I'm not on cycle so that blows your little theory out of the water also. I suppose it proves your intellectual genius by calling me stupid and illiterate. Not once have i personally bashed you, but your arguments have now been relegated to that.
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Because you are misunderstanding what I am trying to say. And that does not blow me intellectually because studies have proven that it lowers test levels, but some people can fight through that I assume."YOU" and a few. If you smoked less weed maybe you could keep up. iono...
Weed might not affect you... like I said everyone is different.
You might be a lucky one. But at the same time to me with your goals and where you are physically you are not someone who sits there with the bong in front of your face all day. Otherwise you would be caughing up black **** and mucas. As I have seen with people who sit there smoking out all day. Look everyone lets make this clear I said what I said to Buster because hes an addict. You may smoke to enjoy your time and idk you may be able to control it and not smoke whenever you want. Where as for Buster as an addict he is just feeding his addiction.

I don't know you.. never seen you don't know what you do all day and what not. So dont discount my intelligence on that aspect.
 
Buster good luck with getting your problems in check. Sorry to jack your thread arguing over whether weed is bad or good when clearly the only issue here is that Heartless wants you to clean your life up to her standards. However if you have a problem with what he's doing, i don't think talking about his problems on the board is the best step to solving them, but again i am not you. Good luck to both of you but remember to be in a good relationship you need to take the good with the bad.
 
punthra said:
Buster good luck with getting your problems. Sorry to jack your thread arguing over whether weed is bad when clearly the only issue here is that Heartless wants you to clean your life up. Good luck to both of you!
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Yea we DEF. jacked his thread but he is cool and won't mind...
shouldn't have posted a stupid question that he possibly already knows the answer to with the outcome of how he feels.

anyway thanks PUNTHRAA
 
Heartless88 said:
ohh **** look who decided to join the thread AHMEN! haha
i swear i knew you would come back stalking me
jk i think your cool timber
anyway it the stuff i wrote was off research and scientists
but i also think the same thing.

welcome to the thread timber.. :wave2:
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I've actually never touched the weed... I just know some guys that do just fine with it... Just wondering.
 
TimberLakers said:
I've actually never touched the weed... I just know some guys that do just fine with it... Just wondering.
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you get your laughs off the first few times after awhile its just old.
I personally get a headache and just feel stupid as ****.
I guess I over smoke.

but **** it don't waste your money or your time.
there is no better high then when your at the gym
which I am sure you know that.
 
Heartless88 said:
you get your laughs off the first few times after awhile its just old.
I personally get a headache and just feel stupid as ****.
I guess I over smoke.

but **** it don't waste your money or your time.
there is no better high then when your at the gym
which I am sure you know that.
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I'm 27 and haven't hit the herb... Sure as sh*t not starting now. :lol:
 
Heartless88 said:
well sorry boys you must be an exception
but at the same time some of you guys are running cycles
so the reaction for someone who is not might be different.
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I had yet to run a cycle in that picture.
 
GMG760 said:
I had yet to run a cycle in that picture.
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in your avi picture... cause just so you know I wasn't basing the fact of you running a cycle off that picture. Just remember reading bout it.

anyway busters thread is seriosly jacked so I am offf it now ROFL
 
Heartless88 said:
you get your laughs off the first few times after awhile its just old.
I personally get a headache and just feel stupid as ****.
I guess I over smoke.

but **** it don't waste your money or your time.
there is no better high then when your at the gym
which I am sure you know that.
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i agree, been there done that long time ago. Theres no good in it as far as im concern. It made me laugh my butt off at times, paraniod at times, lazy at times, think i know it all at times, disrespect others at time. Why even take a chance .Just dont need it, get high on life, more positive things. just my 2 cents.:type:
 
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going to the gym high is weird. i actually got all pumped up and aggressive even while stoned. but ill never go to the gym stoned again!

GMG looks like he wouldnt blaze it. but then again he does. I dunno. I would smoke him out! hahahah.

back - 12 sets

forearms - 4 sets


Effects: VASCULARITY WAS CRAZY TODAY. I havnt been to the gym in a little less than a week and the formestane must have taken effect because i started working out today with very low energy and i got so pumped and vascular so fast my muscles almost hurt they were so pumped up. I love TD FORM!!!!!

Progress: (+ 3.25 lbs) even after blazing my brains out and drinking for the past week with not being in the gym in about 5 days im actually about 2 lbs heavier than i last was. I look not as define or as big but the scale says otherwise. maybe i put on a little fat...
 
buster0371 said:
going to the gym high is weird. i actually got all pumped up and aggressive even while stoned. but ill never go to the gym stoned again!

GMG looks like he wouldnt blaze it. but then again he does. I dunno. I would smoke him out! hahahah.

back - 12 sets

forearms - 4 sets


Effects: VASCULARITY WAS CRAZY TODAY. I havnt been to the gym in a little less than a week and the formestane must have taken effect because i started working out today with very low energy and i got so pumped and vascular so fast my muscles almost hurt they were so pumped up. I love TD FORM!!!!!

Progress: (+ 3.25 lbs) even after blazing my brains out and drinking for the past week with not being in the gym in about 5 days im actually about 2 lbs heavier than i last was. I look not as define or as big but the scale says otherwise. maybe i put on a little fat...
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Glad you are liking the TD form. I am really digging it too. What dose are you using again?

Bro, everything is about your mental game. If weed makes it so that you aren't on point... then weed isn't for you. I own and operate my own business, am re-modeling my house, raising a puppy, playing in a band, and lifting on a regular basis. All while smoking every day. The key for me is to not smoke until I have my work (regarding the cashflow and booking of my business) done. That is what works for me, I only smoke at night. But my partner in my business, wakes up and smokes as soon as he rises from bed and is a completely reliable, productive other half of my business. Basically, a "stoner' is just a stereotype like "all southern people being rednecks" or "black people being thugs". It's simply arrogant and unintelligent to group everyone or anyone for that matter into a stereotype just because of a trait that they have. I personally can't handle my alcohol. I get violent. So I don't drink. It doesn't work for me. I know it works for other people, and good for them... get my drift.

BTW, the gains you "lost" over the weekend from drinking and whatnot will probably be back in a few days if you eat clean and work our hard.
 
You nailed it on the head GMG. I'd send you reps but apparently i have to share the wealth.
 
GMG760 said:
Glad you are liking the TD form. I am really digging it too. What dose are you using again?

Bro, everything is about your mental game. If weed makes it so that you aren't on point... then weed isn't for you. I own and operate my own business, am re-modeling my house, raising a puppy, playing in a band, and lifting on a regular basis. All while smoking every day. The key for me is to not smoke until I have my work (regarding the cashflow and booking of my business) done. That is what works for me, I only smoke at night. But my partner in my business, wakes up and smokes as soon as he rises from bed and is a completely reliable, productive other half of my business. Basically, a "stoner' is just a stereotype like "all southern people being rednecks" or "black people being thugs". It's simply arrogant and unintelligent to group everyone or anyone for that matter into a stereotype just because of a trait that they have. I personally can't handle my alcohol. I get violent. So I don't drink. It doesn't work for me. I know it works for other people, and good for them... get my drift.

BTW, the gains you "lost" over the weekend from drinking and whatnot will probably be back in a few days if you eat clean and work our hard.
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Thanks GMG. Really appreciate the feedback!

dosing 2 pumps am and 2 pumps pm. 1 bottle should last a month!
 
buster0371 said:
going to the gym high is weird. i actually got all pumped up and aggressive even while stoned. but ill never go to the gym stoned again!

GMG looks like he wouldnt blaze it. but then again he does. I dunno. I would smoke him out! hahahah.

back - 12 sets

forearms - 4 sets


Effects: VASCULARITY WAS CRAZY TODAY. I havnt been to the gym in a little less than a week and the formestane must have taken effect because i started working out today with very low energy and i got so pumped and vascular so fast my muscles almost hurt they were so pumped up. I love TD FORM!!!!!

Progress: (+ 3.25 lbs) even after blazing my brains out and drinking for the past week with not being in the gym in about 5 days im actually about 2 lbs heavier than i last was. I look not as define or as big but the scale says otherwise. maybe i put on a little fat...
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I LOVED smoking a snapper before lifting, mind and muscle connection was insane. I never liked getting really high pre w/o, just a head change and Im good. Try it, you may like it.:twisted:
 
GMG760 said:
Glad you are liking the TD form. I am really digging it too. What dose are you using again?

Bro, everything is about your mental game. If weed makes it so that you aren't on point... then weed isn't for you. I own and operate my own business, am re-modeling my house, raising a puppy, playing in a band, and lifting on a regular basis. All while smoking every day. The key for me is to not smoke until I have my work (regarding the cashflow and booking of my business) done. That is what works for me, I only smoke at night. But my partner in my business, wakes up and smokes as soon as he rises from bed and is a completely reliable, productive other half of my business. Basically, a "stoner' is just a stereotype like "all southern people being rednecks" or "black people being thugs". It's simply arrogant and unintelligent to group everyone or anyone for that matter into a stereotype just because of a trait that they have. I personally can't handle my alcohol. I get violent. So I don't drink. It doesn't work for me. I know it works for other people, and good for them... get my drift.

BTW, the gains you "lost" over the weekend from drinking and whatnot will probably be back in a few days if you eat clean and work our hard.
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thats the spirit hahaha!
damm G we can count on you to come remodel our house too now Jk
i want a puppy
G good job keep up all the hard work
proud of all your good talk compared to all the old **** talking

hey .. I am violent drinker too
:worried:
but i stopped drinking that much
 
tim1985 said:
I LOVED smoking a snapper before lifting, mind and muscle connection was insane. I never liked getting really high pre w/o, just a head change and Im good. Try it, you may like it.:twisted:
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thats funny the only time I worked out high was going for a speed walking jog
i felt like the walk was over fast and I had done like 3.5 miles
I could have kept going and going
 
heyheyayay smoke weed everyday :bandit: sorry just had to throw that in there dont worry busta keep hittin it hard and you'll make up those gains quick and try not to drink too often I like to have a beer or two every now and then but dont go overkill its just empty cals and it will really hinder a lot of the progress you've been working so hard on smoking is IMO much better not that its good for you but hell a man's gotta have something to chil-ax with :439:
 
yesterday - chest abs

CHEST - 10 sets

abs - 5 sets

4 pumps form per day

Progress: +3 lbs(166)

Effects: Supercharged at the gym!!! Intensity was really high and i was getting super pumped and vascular. I would say vascularity is getting pretty crazy, I'm not a terribly vascular guy, and my arms are just covered by veins when im working out, spiderweb status.


I'm loving Formestane right now. I've put on like 3 lbs in 2 weeks of being kinda lazy and long rest periods. I dont really understand this mood rush that people are discribing. sometimes I will knowtice a little libido boost right after but thats pretty minimal. People said they didnt feel it off formex, well thats understandable cuz i almost dont feel it on the transdermal.
 
People talk about the formestane "rush" at about 200mg.
 
GMG760 said:
I have no idea. Only one way to find out right?
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IM ON IT!!!

I just applied 100mg of form and yes i do feel the "rush" still not very intense, its like a little rush of energy, like being really allert and maybe a little libido enhancement. Again, not an overwhelming feeling but more subtle and with your mood.
 
GMG760 said:
People talk about the formestane "rush" at about 200mg.
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right, i think a minimum of 3 pumps 2 x a day is necessary to feel the rush. for me it takes 4-6 pumps 2xday. try going to 3x2. drying off in front of fan after applying also helps this effect for me.
 
yesterday - legs

legs - 12 sets

calfs - 3 sets

abs - 3 sets

Progress: Strength is definately up. I usually leg press 3 plates on each side and i struggle for 15 reps at the end of my workout. Yesterday i was smashing through 20 reps no problem at the end of my workout!

Effects: Libido is through the roof. Vascularity is good but not crazy. Strength is definately up!
 
angled leg press?
 
Wait, you squat 315 for 5 but you leg press 3 plates? Kinda a big difference there.
 
Where is that video you promised to post?, you know.... the one where your squatting 315 for 5 reps.
 
I was thinking the same thing G...are you going parallel on your squats Buster? I agree a video would be good for us to judge.
 
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