Heck yeah man treat your self to a 23 ounces steak bud that's what I do well maybe two of them lol. Great job on the PR!!
damn bro dont take it like that, is it worth it to skip till morning next time?Took VL at midnight when I got on bed.. It's 230 and in wide awake and BOILING hot .. lol
Ppl have been taking at night and saying it helps with deeper sleep and vivid dreams... I can't fall asleep haha. "everyone's different"damn bro dont take it like that, is it worth it to skip till morning next time?
i heard that was from endosurge not vanillean right, im taking endosurge right now and getting deep sleep and dreams
Prebed for the past few nights I've been doing 3mg melatonin, 1 SLINtensity, and a vanillean. Yeah, pretty vivid.
Funny I have all of that, I'll give it a shot.
Glad I'm not the only one getting this side.
ThisI actually like them. They aren't detrimental to my sleep quality...quite the contrary.
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Now that's what I'm talking about!I'm certain the progress will be visible by the end of the 4 weeks. This product has earned a spot in my aresenal and is very effective and versatile.
Very nice!Jan 21 day 21
Went into the gym feeling not so great about body comp- left the gym sweating all the water out and with my abs popping pretty nicely.. Very 3d looking at the top. The bottom, I've said before, is not looking great lol but I am eating mostly on surplus while losing bf.. So I won't nit-pick.
Workout started with 29minutes of HIIT on treadmill for 378 cals
Went on to my PT leg circuit
GH raise- 15 each leg
REar leg elevated split squat-12 each leg
Overhead press on bosu ball-10x bw+25lbs
Repeat for 3 total
Chest
Incline db press- 40x 8,8(warmup) 50x9, 60x6, 70x4 (PR) I have never focused on strength like I am at this point in my training career (10 years) aside from when I played football in hs and college.. I had a lot left probably 2-3 reps at 70.. I workout alone so this was no spot or lift help
High Machine flyes- 130x10, 135x8
Cable crosses single arm- 20lbsx20, 15
Chest dips- 15 x bw
Shoulders- definitely a PR for volume and weight.. Really pushing myself with these 10x5's, same for tri's and any other lift I utilize this method on.. It's grueling!
OH BB press- 10 sets of 125x5 reps (1 min rest btwn sets)
Tri's
BB floor crushers- 10 sets of 70x5(1 min rest)
Leg press calf-10 plates total x20 x 3 sets (PR)
Donkey calf- rest pause 100 reps x 4 plates total
Ab work
Finished with 15 minutes of HIIT on recumbent for a total of 44minutes and 538 calories- total gym time 2 hours on the shnoz
I'm certain the progress will be visible by the end of the 4 weeks. This product has earned a spot in my aresenal and is very effective and versatile.
I will dose pre bed tonight as many others have been doing and see how / if it affects my dreams and overall sleep quality!
Did you take anything else with it?Thanks guys. I'm definitely not a fan of the pre bed dose lol. Heading to school and gonna hit back / bis/ traps between classes. Got about 75g of protein and some recoverpro to hold me over post workout til I get home for dinner. Gonna try out the prodigy sample that ricky sent me. Ihope I don't scare the freshman in the gym lol
Some users do get an indirect Nor-adrenaline release, but the effect is pretty small.I was just gonna ask that. I have absolutely no issues with VL keeping me up. It's not a stimulant. But folks are all different.
Idk.. Coulda just been a fluke.. I'll try again tonight!So you are saying VL actually kepted you up?
The prodigy? Just my BA caps SNS ... took it 35 mina ago before class... Just go out of class.... Omg I need weights now. I'm gonna murk this workoutDid you take anything else with it?
Nooo hah I took prodigy today before my workout at 3 lol. Last night I tool nothing but VL hahYou took a pre workout before bed? That most definitely the culprit.
How'd it treat you bro? Also I tried the 1 cap pre bed last night...went to bed about 230am woke up at 1030am feeling great...going to try pre bed again and see if it's still nice but our bodies all react different of courseNooo hah I took prodigy today before my workout at 3 lol. Last night I tool nothing but VL hah
It really got me jacked up to lift. But I think I went too heavy again on my 10x5 sets to start and it quickly took the wind out of my sails mentally. I lowered the weight around my 3rd set on lat pulls and BB curls (10x5) and was able to get nice contraction and pump in target muscles.How'd it treat you bro? Also I tried the 1 cap pre bed last night...went to bed about 230am woke up at 1030am feeling great...going to try pre bed again and see if it's still nice but our bodies all react different of course
I wish I could say I did. My school work and training schedules just don't jive. The old me would have stayed in bed, but I'm going to class. I have to drive an hour for a one hour class. It's bs. Idk how im gonna do cardio. I can lift tired but not run .Nice workout brother you are in the beast mode for sure. Hope you get some good zzzzz I know i didn't haha
As in 10 sets of 5? That can be a very effective setup, it just depends on the rest of the workout. If that's your main focus for the entire training session and you only do a few accessories, like maybe abs, hammies and hip work, that could be awesome.I wish I could say I did. My school work and training schedules just don't jive. The old me would have stayed in bed, but I'm going to class. I have to drive an hour for a one hour class. It's bs. Idk how im gonna do cardio. I can lift tired but not run .
Do u guys all think 10x5 trap deads is overkill??
Yes, that's the focus..10x5 for 225lbsAs in 10 sets of 5? That can be a very effective setup, it just depends on the rest of the workout. If that's your main focus for the entire training session and you only do a few accessories, like maybe abs, hammies and hip work, that could be awesome.
Advanced GVT utilizes a very similar setup.
Bro! I got an extra bottle of VL was going to run 8 weeks but have to start winny sooner then I though so I can only do my log for 6 weeks instead of 8 which leaves me with half a bottle....I have your address...ill be sending you half a bottle tomorrow then you can run it 6 weeks along side your boyVL update
So I'm feeling VERY lean in lower belly (biggest/only real problem area at this point) and I love it. Passing the pinch test with daily reduction in adipose feeling .. Whats more, again, I am on a BULK for diet and training.. This is some of the lowest volume/intensity I have done in my entire life.. What's EVEN more is that my meal TIMING is FAR FROM OPTIMAL for fat loss.... I'm talking like 2 hours before bed, large gaps in between meals... Etc.. Just not the way one would go about losing body fat... Yet I am! thumbs up bps..
So how long can one use this stuff before a suggested break I would love to add to my alphamine next month and extend the log but funds r HITTTTTT and just got big medical bill from my endo. feb will also be a lean bulk but with lots of support supps like anabeta, anabolic pump, alphamine, hghpro, condense, MCC and forskolin 95. Will also be switching to an 8x8 Vince gironda program which I've used before and had killer recomp effects. I was planning on using rk500 to stack with alphamine, but maybe we could try out the "alphalean" stack as coined by natty !
Very interested in seeing how you set that 8*8 log up my man. Might be something I give a run later on (though my next 9 weeks are already planned).VL update
So I'm feeling VERY lean in lower belly (biggest/only real problem area at this point) and I love it. Passing the pinch test with daily reduction in adipose feeling .. Whats more, again, I am on a BULK for diet and training.. This is some of the lowest volume/intensity I have done in my entire life.. What's EVEN more is that my meal TIMING is FAR FROM OPTIMAL for fat loss.... I'm talking like 2 hours before bed, large gaps in between meals... Etc.. Just not the way one would go about losing body fat... Yet I am! thumbs up bps..
So how long can one use this stuff before a suggested break I would love to add to my alphamine next month and extend the log but funds r HITTTTTT and just got big medical bill from my endo. feb will also be a lean bulk but with lots of support supps like anabeta, anabolic pump, alphamine, hghpro, condense, MCC and forskolin 95. Will also be switching to an 8x8 Vince gironda program which I've used before and had killer recomp effects. I was planning on using rk500 to stack with alphamine, but maybe we could try out the "alphalean" stack as coined by natty !
What a guy! I'm down. Thank you!Bro! I got an extra bottle of VL was going to run 8 weeks but have to start winny sooner then I though so I can only do my log for 6 weeks instead of 8 which leaves me with half a bottle....I have your address...ill be sending you half a bottle tomorrow then you can run it 6 weeks along side your boy
I used it last year around this time.. It's NOT for strength. But I'm gonna use it for only 3 weeks. Then hit up brosers power/rep range/shock. That's why I'm milking this 5x5 / 10x5 for as long as I can before I miss higher rep stuff!Very interested in seeing how you set that 8*8 log up my man. Might be something I give a run later on (though my next 9 weeks are already planned).
All he does is give, give, give.....Bro! I got an extra bottle of VL was going to run 8 weeks but have to start winny sooner then I though so I can only do my log for 6 weeks instead of 8 which leaves me with half a bottle....I have your address...ill be sending you half a bottle tomorrow then you can run it 6 weeks along side your boy
Don't worry brother I've been there before I think we all have at some point searched the dryer and couch for money for gas or in my case food growing up lol I grew up with a druggie father and in a very poverty stricken home and life so I understand even tho your case isn't that extreme medical bills suck!!!!! So it's my pleasure bro ill send you some samples I have around to of various things just to help hold you over til you get stuff straight now lets kill these logs my friendWhat a guy! I'm down. Thank you!
I'd buy another bottle but I literally scraped coins for gas money to get to school today haha. I wont be comfortable again til the mid of feb. I already purchased everything I needed or had it on hand!
I used it last year around this time.. It's NOT for strength. But I'm gonna use it for only 3 weeks. Then hit up brosers power/rep range/shock. That's why I'm milking this 5x5 / 10x5 for as long as I can before I miss higher rep stuff!
That's what life is all about brother I get more pleasure in giving then receiving by far but thank you for noticing brotherAll he does is give, give, give.....
Good man.
Thanks again. I'll return the favor when I am in position. for u and others!Don't worry brother I've been there before I think we all have at some point searched the dryer and couch for money for gas or in my case food growing up lol I grew up with a druggie father and in a very poverty stricken home and life so I understand even tho your case isn't that extreme medical bills suck!!!!! So it's my pleasure bro ill send you some samples I have around to of various things just to help hold you over til you get stuff straight now lets kill these logs my friend
a spider? Not a hot Norwegian blonde?I am testing out few supplements before setting up a final plan.
I took some Vanillean for 2 days and immediate effect I felt was during sleep. I think I slept 4 hours each night and did not feel tired the next day.....hmmmmm. Also, I have had some crazy dreams. Very vivid. This morning, I woke up thinking I was bit by a black widow spider. I swear I felt the pain. Then realized I was dreaming.
I had some grotesque dreams last night. Makes me wonder where the influences come from.I am testing out few supplements before setting up a final plan.I took some Vanillean for 2 days and immediate effect I felt was during sleep. I think I slept 4 hours each night and did not feel tired the next day.....hmmmmm. Also, I have had some crazy dreams. Very vivid. This morning, I woke up thinking I was bit by a black widow spider. I swear I felt the pain. Then realized I was dreaming.
I wish. Haha. It was so real.a spider? Not a hot Norwegian blonde?
I am glad I am not the only one.I had some grotesque dreams last night. Makes me wonder where the influences come from.
Thanks hulk. I am 169-170 now an as lean as i was at 150-55 last year.. If only I could fill in my flattttassss muscles.... Been on creatine 2 weeks. Waiting for it to kic in!Oh **** wicked pic updates brother C! Dude I'm telling you your beasting it up every day. I can't wait to see you at 190 to 205
Did u dose pre bed at all?I am testing out few supplements before setting up a final plan.
I took some Vanillean for 2 days and immediate effect I felt was during sleep. I think I slept 4 hours each night and did not feel tired the next day.....hmmmmm. Also, I have had some crazy dreams. Very vivid. This morning, I woke up thinking I was bit by a black widow spider. I swear I felt the pain. Then realized I was dreaming.
Yes, both days.Did u dose pre bed at all?
Yes sir.No need to apologize for venting. That's what we're here for, right? Now get back in the gym and lift!