Black lion. Follidrone. Worth it?

Mmmmm, rice
 
htghunterray said:
What are the prerequisites for SNS reps? Little Man syndrome?
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The prop blend is just amusing because any other company could literally buy a bottle of follidrone and know within 24 hours how much (-)-epicatechin is in it.In a single ingredient product case it literally serves no purpose whatsoever.I mean, if he thinks it helps him, more power to him, but other companies are just going to actively throw punches at him in marketing over it. (See: Massterone)I would assume he'll get rid of it when he releases the new improved bioavailability version he had been alluding to.
 
mw1 said:
Hmm we have a team of nutritionist, personal trainer, writer, lay student, a pharmacist. A college professor , etc , etc
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You dont have to tell me brother. SNS is one of my go to companies for a few different products. I was more subing to see the new guy get harassed a little bit:chairshot:
 
brundel said:
I have been in contact with the authors of 2 studies currently underway.
1 for MS and 1 for Sarcopenia.
THings look pretty positive although only one of them is being 100% open with results. The other is hinting at things but with a wink wink at the end.
Soon.....there will be ALOT of viable research available regarding both muscle mass accumulation and strength increases.
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Maybe im slow but aware me on this MS and Sarcopenia
 
I agree, thats why I don't understand why people are so quick to believe the owner of a company.
 
mase1 said:
I agree, thats why I don't understand why people are so quick to believe the owner of a company.
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Then don't believe the owner and don't believe all the people that are taking it and have taken it. Just continue to think this is one big sham.
 
This thread sure was a disaster. Must have kept Admin quite busy :P

Side note, I'mma order whichever (-)epi product that appears relatively popular and in stock when fall comes around, lulz. Must give this stuff a good run seeing all the hype around it. Hoping for it to NOT be another V-1.
 
I have 3 bottles of folli that I will use in a few months, I 'm actually put off by not knowing what amount is in the product. I think its more of a OCD things though.
 
kissdadookie said:
This thread sure was a disaster. Must have kept Admin quite busy :P

Side note, I'mma order whichever (-)epi product that appears relatively popular and in stock when fall comes around, lulz. Must give this stuff a good run seeing all the hype around it. Hoping for it to NOT be another V-1.
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Ull love it dook. Im trying PA just because of you. Not sure if it will be Micro Pa or King tho.
 
mechka_grizli said:
Ull love it dook. Im trying PA just because of you. Not sure if it will be Micro Pa or King tho.
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Should have a bottle of King soon. First thing I'm going to figure out is if that stuff will give me GI issues because I'm going to dose it @ 3 caps preworkout in the morning :P
 
kissdadookie said:
This thread sure was a disaster. Must have kept Admin quite busy :PSide note, I'mma order whichever (-)epi product that appears relatively popular and in stock when fall comes around, lulz. Must give this stuff a good run seeing all the hype around it. Hoping for it to NOT be another V-1.
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But the mind muscle connection of V-1 was great! Not srs.It's not the same.. you shall see. Be excited =]
 
Jiigzz said:
Seeing as I couldn't get any follidrone, I went and bought two bottles of MASSterone. I get the dose isn't the same so the two products may not be able to be compared but if I have time I will be logging.

I am meticulous with diet and training; so it be interesting to see the kind of response I get.
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I will be looking forward to that log, the difference is huge one bottle with FD contains 30g vs Massterons only 4,5g so you will be taking the recommended dosage of Massterons 150 mg pr day with epicatechin ?
 
Late 2 the party, one is a prop blend so can't compare like that. Read the hundred+ pages first.
 
mase1 said:
Late 2 the party, one is a prop blend so can't compare like that. Read the hundred+ pages first.
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Except for the fact that Brundel has dropped MANY hints about how much epi follidrone has per serving.
 
Joshlm69 said:
You seem to be one of the most negative and skeptical people on the forum when it comes to BLR, any reason?
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I have nothing against BLR just highly interested in follidrone/similar products and I know talk is cheap. Companies have unaffiliated board sponsors...I know how these things work so forgive me for being untrusting. Pictures generally convey results much better than words. If a bottle was 20 bucks I wouldn't care but when.ur.droppin that kind of cash I'd like.to know if its worth it.
 
So it could contain 400mg with epi and 100 of rice flour ? Can't say I understand the function of the rice flour...

Rice flour is a particularly good substitute for wheat flour, which causes irritation in the digestive systems of those who are gluten-intolerant. Rice flour is also used as a thickening agent in recipes that are refrigerated or frozen since it inhibits liquid separation.
 
Lexonis said:
So it could contain 400mg with epi and 100 of rice flour ? Can't say I understand the function of the rice flour... Rice flour is a particularly good substitute for wheat flour, which causes irritation in the digestive systems of those who are gluten-intolerant. Rice flour is also used as a thickening agent in recipes that are refrigerated or frozen since it inhibits liquid separation.
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I think the function is to be something that isn't the active. So if someone emptied the capsule and weighed it they wouldn't know the amount of active...just a guess. :|
 
well that must be quite frustrating then since I want to know If I'm getting 400mg or 200mg give or take of the active ingredient. But that's probably one of the tings they have to do to defend their formulas so I can understand that.
 
Lexonis said:
well that must be quite frustrating then since I want to know If I'm getting 400mg or 200mg give or take of the active ingredient. But that's probably one of the tings they have to do to defend their formulas so I can understand that.
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I think it's per cap. So 250+250 for a total of 500mg epi. This is just an estimate as I am not sure. But I'll have to check my bottle later and make sure.
 
While I know people say Im crazy for using a prop blend understand we have NEVER done this before. It serves a purpose here.
I feel comfortable with my decision.

Ive adopted a new strategy as well.....you guys will see shortly ;) Several interesting things on the horizon.....
FD size. Some I have alluded to. Some I have not.

One step ahead.
 
I dnt know why such the hostility in knowing the exact amount? It works so who cares?

Now if someone pays me I can figure out how much is in a capsule though lol
 
goodvibes said:
I dnt know why such the hostility in knowing the exact amount? It works so who cares?

Now if someone pays me I can figure out how much is in a capsule though lol
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Because this is the game supplement companies and reps play. They look for little pin holes and try to create cavities. My opinion is trust the companies who's owners are involved in its developments and production.
 
Mission1 said:
Because this is the game supplement companies and reps play. They look for little pin holes and try to create cavities. My opinion is trust the companies who's owners are involved in its developments and production.
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you run a business and know things can get out of hand in the blink of an eye that's why you say this, that's why it's also a proper opinion particularly regarding small business
 
Touey said:
you run a business and know things can get out of hand in the blink of an eye that's why you say this, that's why it's also a proper opinion particularly regarding small business
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21 years strong brother. My shoes don't sit upon a desk.... I make sure of that.
 
Mission1 said:
21 years strong brother. My shoes don't sit upon a desk.... I make sure of that.
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Lol mine dont either... Just the forums alone is a job but I also do everything else required to run a business. THings do get hectic. Worth it though.
 
Firstcycle said:
K I have posted on here before and was turned to this product. Now I have read a lot of good and bad. And sounds to be false hope. I was wanting to see if anyone here not working for a supp company has had any results or information before I try this. If not I am going to run havoc or epi cycle
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I'm repping for another company but here's my thoughts.

There is more need than ever for "non hormonal" products. Increased awareness of phs from the government means we need something good. Betaine (tmg) , ara , forskolin and this product(can't spell main ingredient lol)and formestane are examples. All work well. It's all worth a try. Brundel has done a superb job with this and formeron.

I also must mention we here at chaos and pain have a tmg product/test booster called cannibal alpha. This is my shameless product plug.

I hope I answered your question. I'm one of the honest reps here.
 
Prediction: with the anecdotal popularity of epicatechin we will see 5+ companies launch various forms of it. Shortly there after Mike McCandless will sell the stuff for dirt cheap in bulk. Nobody will look like a myostatin deficient animal (or Flex Wheeler) at the end of the day. But several supplement companies will fatten their wallet.

The end. #buzzkill
 
Royd The Noyd said:
Prediction: with the anecdotal popularity of epicatechin we will see 5+ companies launch various forms of it. Shortly there after Mike McCandless will sell the stuff for dirt cheap in bulk. Nobody will look like a myostatin deficient animal (or Flex Wheeler) at the end of the day. But several supplement companies will fatten their wallet.

The end. #buzzkill
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Then people starts taking under dosed products and will be quick to claim that epicathecins dnt work :)
 
Royd The Noyd said:
Prediction: with the anecdotal popularity of epicatechin we will see 5+ companies launch various forms of it. Shortly there after Mike McCandless will sell the stuff for dirt cheap in bulk. Nobody will look like a myostatin deficient animal (or Flex Wheeler) at the end of the day. But several supplement companies will fatten their wallet. The end. #buzzkill
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the thing is those who've not tried it say these things yet personally it's exceeded anything I'd thought possible in a natty. Going on about Flex Wheeler and such is a bit much as the majority of folks seeking results here would be pleased if things worked half or even a quarter of what marketeers are selling.

As for McCandless lol I don't know what to say Sir. he was on here advising Brundel on how to go about running his company so I'd think he'd at least wait awhile before jumping in
 
brundel said:
I have been in contact with the authors of 2 studies currently underway.
1 for MS and 1 for Sarcopenia.
THings look pretty positive although only one of them is being 100% open with results. The other is hinting at things but with a wink wink at the end.
Soon.....there will be ALOT of viable research available regarding both muscle mass accumulation and strength increases.
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You aren't referring to this Invalid Link Removed , correct?
 
Only a matter of time before a big company jumps on board and cuts the small guy out, can't blame companies hustling to make money while they can.
 
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