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Big Boys throw down to lean out (Sponsored by Need to Build Muscle's N2 Burn.

Damn fine bench work OC!

My workout went this way:

Day 2, (altered)week 3 (MC6)
8:15-8:50

Hammer Curl @ 40's 12/12/12

Wide Grip BB curl at 75 - 12/12

Super Set
Low Pulley Straight bar curl 120x12, 120x12, 110x15
with
Wide Grip Triceps PD 130x15, 150x15, 170x15

1H OH DB Ext went light to keep from tweaking the shoulder
25's 15/15, 30's 15/15

2h Leaning OH Rope Extenion
100x15/15, 120x12

Cardio details are listed above

Dietary info: 2737 cals (128 carbs, 223 protein {plus 30 g bcaa}, 161 fats) with an estimated burn of of 3875 for a deficit of 1138.
 
I need to get them numbers down for myself. I have worked out for years but never worked out with anyone that did the 5/3/1 reps. I would like to learn. Also how can I get my numbers down to a science like that? Thanks -big boy D
 
Onlychevy6 said:
Not sure what else I should take if anything for post Transaderm. I am already taking Pure Test, PCT Rev. Black, EndoSurge for my pct. And of Course I am taking 2 each N2 Burn in the morning and afternoon. Of course I am also taking other things as well. Such as EFA Lean Gold with CLA, Super Cissus RX, ISS Research Vitamins. Those are the supplements with the exception of my Whey Protein.

As far as calories on workout days I am dropped from 2500 to 2300 and on non workout days I went from 1700 to 1500.
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Damn, that is tight there man. Not telling you what to do, but for me at least, that is too restrictive on the cals. I would be bitchy and ravenous if I pulled it in to 1500/day. The weight loss is nice, but it is not worth it to me to sacrifice lean mass to see the scale go down. Not saying that is happening with you.
 
Big boy D said:
I need to get them numbers down for myself. I have worked out for years but never worked out with anyone that did the 5/3/1 reps. I would like to learn. Also how can I get my numbers down to a science like that? Thanks -big boy D
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Here is a good place to start:

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You can tweak it to fit more for your goals by altering the assist movements. My variation is a BB altered form. In case you missed it, I am changing it up this week to let my shoulder heal so I will not be doing delt or chest work outs this week.
 
Big boy D said:
I need to get them numbers down for myself. I have worked out for years but never worked out with anyone that did the 5/3/1 reps. I would like to learn. Also how can I get my numbers down to a science like that? Thanks -big boy D
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Are you talking about the diet numbers? If so there are a few different places you can input what you eat and it will give you all the detailed info you want.
 
taman6886 said:
Damn, that is tight there man. Not telling you what to do, but for me at least, that is too restrictive on the cals. I would be bitchy and ravenous if I pulled it in to 1500/day. The weight loss is nice, but it is not worth it to me to sacrifice lean mass to see the scale go down. Not saying that is happening with you.
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Yeah I know what you mean. I just started this with our little contest. I also did it because I am no longer 260 lbs. My main goal for now is to feed my Lean mass not my actual body weight. That way I shouldn't lose muscle if anything help put some mass on or stay where I am at lean mass wise.
 
Hmmm how far back would I have to read to get a weight update from you guys? :)
 
That's AWESOME man, half a month-ish deep in this thing and already seeing decent progress :) Might be something I will have to try out before summer.
 
Keep the burn days low but don't drop the workout days, that's going to help you mantain more mass...
 
DreamWeaver said:
Keep the burn days low but don't drop the workout days, that's going to help you mantain more mass...
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Yes Yes Yes!! I couldnt agree more. I learned this the hard way when first trying to cut aggressively. Keep the build days up over maintenance to maintain that muscle, and drop the burn days to create the bigger defecit
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
Hmmm how far back would I have to read to get a weight update from you guys? :)
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Started at 275, still sitting at around 273. However, I am seeing some improved vascularity, so I may actually be gaining some mass while leaning out. Dat be fine by me.
 
taman6886 said:
Started at 275, still sitting at around 273. However, I am seeing some improved vascularity, so I may actually be gaining some mass while leaning out. Dat be fine by me.
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Any progress is good progress keep up the hard work.
 
taman6886 said:
Started at 275, still sitting at around 273. However, I am seeing some improved vascularity, so I may actually be gaining some mass while leaning out. Dat be fine by me.
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That sounds like a win win!
 
So I am going to test something out. Last,few days I have been going to bed later and later. Today I will not take n2 burn at lunch and see if I do the same thing. Going to bed around 11 ish and getting up at 4:30 is not cutting it. I normally get to bed around 9-9:30.
 
Onlychevy6 said:
So I am going to test something out. Last,few days I have been going to bed later and later. Today I will not take n2 burn at lunch and see if I do the same thing. Going to bed around 11 ish and getting up at 4:30 is not cutting it. I normally get to bed around 9-9:30.
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Yah I am an early to bed guy and up between 4-4:30...
 
Yeah I need to try and get some sleep. I drive 53 miles one way to work. It takes me 1hour and 15minutes with no traffic. When there is traffic like on fridays it is an easy 2 hours to get home leaving at 4 in the afternoon
 
Onlychevy6 said:
So I am going to test something out. Last,few days I have been going to bed later and later. Today I will not take n2 burn at lunch and see if I do the same thing. Going to bed around 11 ish and getting up at 4:30 is not cutting it. I normally get to bed around 9-9:30.
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And you wondered why you have been pissy? LMAO. Sleep deprivation + stims make Jeff nasty beatch. (Me to for that matter LOL)
 
taman6886 said:
And you wondered why you have been pissy? LMAO. Sleep deprivation + stims make Jeff nasty beatch. (Me to for that matter LOL)
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Reminds me of that snickers commercial. Need to eat a snicker cause your acting like a diva. Lmao
 
Hey Jeff is this you????



I picture you as more of the Liza Minnelli type...
 
Onlychevy6 said:
Lmfao. I knew I can count on you for videos.
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What can I say it is like my calling card or something, check out the one I left you on your other Log, it has to be one of my all time personal favorites scenes from any movie!!!
 
11/4/11 Day 3, altered week 3 (MC6)
5:30-6:25 Started with 5 minute warm up

Squat (Does not include warm up sets at bar, 140, 230. Belt on last 2 sets only)
310X5, 350x3, 390x3 (RAWRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!) These were very tight. Had a spotter so I had no reservations about the depth on the 390 set.

Leg Press @730
15/12/10 (these left my quads screaming)

Lying Leg Curl @ 125
10/10/6

Hack Squat (all reps below parallel, went very deep with these)
230x12, 280x12/11 (Pushed off on my knees the last few reps)

Old Nautilus Ab Crunch @120 55/10 (1st set toasted them)

2756 cals (154 carbs, 233 protein {plus 18g bcaa}, 137 fats) with an estimated burn of 4020 for a deficit of 1264.
 
congratz on the PR man!!

Always nice to hit those. :D

That squat is WAY higher than mine....... You're beast man!
 
Thanks gents. Took a 3 point caliper reading tonight. Came in at a total of 30mm, down 4 so that pretty much confirms that my body is doing a recomp with what we got going on. Reduced fat and increasing lean mass.
 
taman6886 said:
Thanks gents. Took a 3 point caliper reading tonight. Came in at a total of 30mm, down 4 so that pretty much confirms that my body is doing a recomp with what we got going on. Reduced fat and increasing lean mass.
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Now that's what I am talking about.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Keep the burn days low but don't drop the workout days, that's going to help you mantain more mass...
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RickRock13 said:
Yes Yes Yes!! I couldnt agree more. I learned this the hard way when first trying to cut aggressively. Keep the build days up over maintenance to maintain that muscle, and drop the burn days to create the bigger defecit
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Ok so you both agree that I should leave my calories alone on the workout days do either of you think I should lower the calories on the non workout days? Meaning lower than 1500 down to maybe 1300? I have been at 1700.
 
Onlychevy6 said:
Ok so you both agree that I should leave my calories alone on the workout days do either of you think I should lower the calories on the non workout days? Meaning lower than 1500 down to maybe 1300? I have been at 1700.
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Most everything I have read states that 1500 cals is the bottom of the most restriction you want to go to for a male.
 
taman6886 said:
Most everything I have read states that 1500 cals is the bottom of the most restriction you want to go to for a male.
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You are not far off. I know there is a breaking point. When I first started this life change in February I was only bringing in like 1200 calories and I was sitting at 3 bills at that time. And my workout consisted of only the p90x program.
 
Onlychevy6 said:
Ok so you both agree that I should leave my calories alone on the workout days do either of you think I should lower the calories on the non workout days? Meaning lower than 1500 down to maybe 1300? I have been at 1700.
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Just try 2500 and 1500 I think you'll be fine ...you may even want to up your wd cal intake...it's funny with lean gains you can have a higher average calorie intake than with normal diets. See how it goes with 2500 1500 ...
 
DreamWeaver said:
Just try 2500 and 1500 I think you'll be fine ...you may even want to up your wd cal intake...it's funny with lean gains you can have a higher average calorie intake than with normal diets. See how it goes with 2500 1500 ...
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Thanks DW for your input.
 
Hit some AM cardio this morning. 20 minutes, random hill profile on the bike. Wanted to go longer but time constraints would not allow it. 90 cals down, all day burn :)
 
taman6886 said:
Hit some AM cardio this morning. 20 minutes, random hill profile on the bike. Wanted to go longer but time constraints would not allow it. 90 cals down, all day burn :)
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Good Job Bro, excellent results with the 3pt caliper test, looking good Bro, keep it up!

I just wanted to openly compliment everyone participating here, this is a really good thing you guys are doing for yourselves as individuals and for your competitors, and others following along who might get some motivation, Good Stuff Guys, my compliments to you!!!
 
ScottyDoc said:
Good Job Bro, excellent results with the 3pt caliper test, looking good Bro, keep it up!

I just wanted to openly compliment everyone participating here, this is a really good thing you guys are doing for yourselves as individuals and for your competitors, and others following along who might get some motivation, Good Stuff Guys, my compliments to you!!!
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Thank you sir.
 
taman6886 said:
Hit some AM cardio this morning. 20 minutes, random hill profile on the bike. Wanted to go longer but time constraints would not allow it. 90 cals down, all day burn :)
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Any cardio is good cardio. You have been kicking some arse man super proud of all your hard work. It is making me want to work harder.
 
FINAFLEX 550-XD is Back from the Dead....

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taman6886 said:
GL with the hunt. Bow season is up and running here in Ohio with Shotgun (because of the flat, wooded terrain) will soon be upon us.
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Yeah it had been bow season for the last month. Rifle starts saturday
 
Then make some Deer-Jerky & send me some Dang-it!!!
 
ScottyDoc said:
Then make some Deer-Jerky & send me some Dang-it!!!
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Venison based summer sausage and meat sticks are to DIE for. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm (Damn it doc, am pretty much done eating for the day, arggggggggggggggggggggg) LOL.

Alright, Dietary for today: 2141 cals (84 carbs, 203 protein [plus 18g bcaa], 114 fats) with an estimated burn of 3526 for a deficit of1385. (Assuming I do not munch on an apple not that Scotty has got me drooling for deer jerky!)
 
taman6886 said:
Venison based summer sausage and meat sticks are to DIE for. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm (Damn it doc, am pretty much done eating for the day, arggggggggggggggggggggg) LOL.

Alright, Dietary for today: 2141 cals (84 carbs, 203 protein [plus 18g bcaa], 114 fats) with an estimated burn of 3526 for a deficit of1385. (Assuming I do not munch on an apple not that Scotty has got me drooling for deer jerky!)
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Maybe I should post a pic or two of my freezer.
 
Ok tanman I got my eyes on you even though I am in the field hunting. I am still working out. Walked 1000 yards with 100 lbs of corn on each shoulder plus my back pack and rifle. Now if some deer or piggies would come out and play things would be even better. Lol
 
Onlychevy6 said:
Ok tanman I got my eyes on you even though I am in the field hunting. I am still working out. Walked 1000 yards with 100 lbs of corn on each shoulder plus my back pack and rifle. Now if some deer or piggies would come out and play things would be even better. Lol
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Oh, I had no doubt that you had not forgotten me ;) That being the case, I rode about 40 minutes on my bike to get a good burn going and kept things very tight today: 2200 cals on the nose (78 carbs, 186 protein [+12g bcaa], 132 fats) with an estimated burn of 3699 for a deficit of 1499.
 
Onlychevy6 said:
Ok tanman I got my eyes on you even though I am in the field hunting. I am still working out. Walked 1000 yards with 100 lbs of corn on each shoulder plus my back pack and rifle. Now if some deer or piggies would come out and play things would be even better. Lol
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taman6886 said:
Oh, I had no doubt that you had not forgotten me ;) That being the case, I rode about 40 minutes on my bike to get a good burn going and kept things very tight today: 2200 cals on the nose (78 carbs, 186 protein [+12g bcaa], 132 fats) with an estimated burn of 3699 for a deficit of 1499.
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knew you two were at it strong lol.
 
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