Best PH for PCT?
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jaydollars
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So your using test and want to use an OTC ph for pct, is this a joke
GeekPoop
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the fck
gamer2be08
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Confusled....
radiodude
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Actually, I've learned an insane about of stuff and am VERY appreciative of said information. I wasn't suggesting a PH solely for PCT, only to going along with everything else.
Perhaps I'm missing something here, but I've been suggested by a couple of people on this board to take, at least what I thought was OTC, PHs to go along with my Nolva, Vitamin C for cort control and possibly an AI. If I'm remembering correctly those suggestions included Animal Stak, which I k ow is OTC, diesel test hardcore or something like that and I think Sunami. I also just started HCG halfway through my cycle and will end before PCT begins.
Anyway, I was just looking for something that was easily accessible.
As far as my weight, I'm at 172 now. That 148 was from a while back at the end of a cut. This is my first cycle, but I felt like I was doing pretty well, especially considering that way too many people don't know the first thing about PCT.
Either way, I appreciate all the feedback, positive or negative, and will continue to research and learn.
Perhaps I'm missing something here, but I've been suggested by a couple of people on this board to take, at least what I thought was OTC, PHs to go along with my Nolva, Vitamin C for cort control and possibly an AI. If I'm remembering correctly those suggestions included Animal Stak, which I k ow is OTC, diesel test hardcore or something like that and I think Sunami. I also just started HCG halfway through my cycle and will end before PCT begins.
Anyway, I was just looking for something that was easily accessible.
As far as my weight, I'm at 172 now. That 148 was from a while back at the end of a cut. This is my first cycle, but I felt like I was doing pretty well, especially considering that way too many people don't know the first thing about PCT.
Either way, I appreciate all the feedback, positive or negative, and will continue to research and learn.
Raladoc
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lol there is LOADs of choices for test boosters. iv heard that diesel test hardcore is good but i dont know much about them cos im too young to try yet lol. Your best off asking one of the more experianced guys or doin a little search on it because there are loads of threads on test boosters
gamer2be08
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You had us scared for a second haha...
Grambo
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Same here.... I was like :thumbsdown:
Anyway while you are looking into Test boosters I suggest looking at Purus Recycle, the feedback on it is overwhelmingly positive and I think you would be very pleased. There are many other good ones out there though from some of the top notch companies on here.
gamer2be08
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The low dose ph has to have a really short half life and be taken in the morning... Like epi or d-bol (AAS)...
HPTA suppression would be so minimal from that, that you would still make an excellent recovery during PCT...
Grambo
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Going to have to 100% disagree on this. The last thing you want in PCT is any type of exogenous hormone. Especially on long cycles like Test.
My suggestions:
Purus Recycle
AI Testopro/PCS
gamer2be08
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I would have to research more into that, im not 100 percent sure as why people do that anyways, maybe to have a bit of extra test flowin in the morning to supplement with your test that is naturally raising... IMO
gamer2be08
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Haha, not saying I would do it, I just know there are plenty of people that do the d-bol/epi pct protocol.. And it works for them, in theory the compound is takin in the morning at a low dose, and because of the short half life, it isnt in your body long enough or in high enough amounts to truly suppress you. Test is produced at night when you sleep and you have highest levels in the morning. To each his own though, I love devils advocate
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warbird01
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w...t...f
warbird01
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Haha, not saying I would do it, I just know there are plenty of people that do the d-bol/epi pct protocol.. And it works for them, in theory the compound is takin in the morning at a low dose, and because of the short half life, it isnt in your body long enough or in high enough amounts to truly suppress you. Test is produced at night when you sleep and you have highest levels in the morning. To each his own though, I love devils advocate
link to "plenty of people"?
gamer2be08
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Just google it, there are too many links to post haha... If you want, I can post a bunch?
dsade
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Haha, not saying I would do it, I just know there are plenty of people that do the d-bol/epi pct protocol.. And it works for them, in theory the compound is takin in the morning at a low dose, and because of the short half life, it isnt in your body long enough or in high enough amounts to truly suppress you. Test is produced at night when you sleep and you have highest levels in the morning. To each his own though, I love devils advocate
Except he is already suppressed from his test cycle...likely MAJORLY. An additional hormone will not let his HPTA detect the sudden drop, nor kick back in production to normalize.
It will do nothing but delay recovery for longer.
gamer2be08
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Wish I could find the other links that I have read :/... Again, its a theory.. I read somewhere that while on PCT with low dose d-bol that you will recover about 90 percent of the way. When you get off PCT and dbol, you will normalize back to 100 percent... I will try to find more pertinent links...
Wish I could find the other links that I have read :/... Again, its a theory.. I read somewhere that while on PCT with low dose d-bol that you will recover about 90 percent of the way. When you get off PCT and dbol, you will normalize back to 100 percent... I will try to find more pertinent links...
GeekPoop
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this is possibly the worst advice Ive ever read, the suggestion of dbol in pct.
Akula
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Wow guys you should check the link out....
There are very smart people on there giving some very smart advice...
There theory is based on the fact that a PH makes your test level go up...
I am not sexist in anyway but they have a Pro-Member who is a female without a medical degree and she is actually dishing out most of the advice....
lennoxchi
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making life and PCT a real pain in the a$$.......
to the OP, if you want a nice test-booster i suggest Sustain Alpha...just my $.02
dsade
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1. PHs do NOT make your test levels go up, especially the fully active forms we have now (not true PHs anymore).
2. The thread was unimpressive...and that "female" discusses the size of her balls. I think you are mistaking the avatar for a real person.
3. Other than an allusion to the "posted levels" which he conveniently cannot find, there is nothing but anecdote in that thread.
gamer2be08
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My bad, got my mind jumbled.. It is a d-bol bridge theory.. You would stay on the d-bol at 10mg per day in the morning during an aggressive PCT and then if my memory suits me, start another cycle. You will still be slightly suppressed while during the PCT, but retain all of your lean mass and then you would jump into another cycle. I also never told anyone to do this, just threw it out there. Also said it was a theory...
dsade
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thegodfather
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The only thing that "may" help during PCT is low dose of Epistane started at 2 weeks after PCT begins. This has helped many people and ive done it myself with good success. All of this was last year of course before my shoulder surgery so i havent done anything for 3 months.
Grambo
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This is the stupidest idea I have ever heard..... so right as you start to normalize you introduce an exogenous hormone?? Come on....
Also the Dbol bridge theory is an old one that has fallen out of favor with anyone in the know because you do not recover like is stated. Outdated information.
Johnnayyyy
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confusing.
im just sticking with SERMS and pct assists haha
im just sticking with SERMS and pct assists haha
crowbar46
Active member
Why "test boosters" during PCT at all? The SERM is going to be far more powerful in boosting test levels than any OTC product. Now, if you feel they are effective--personally, I think they are basically minimally useful if at all--why not use it AFTER you finish PCT to give yourself whatever edge you think they confer?
Crowbar
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gamer2be08
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I agree ^^^^^^^^^^^^
pressmaster
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I haven't researched this type of theory much but I don't c how it can even b considered pct if u r still running hormones.I'm sure you do keep more of your gains when running a lower dose of orals during pct but i wouldn't even consider it pct until u completely come off of hormones altogether.I mean the goal is to keep as much of the gains obtained on cycle as possible while returning your hormones to natural levels after suppression,you couldn't even consider it pct until you come of the orals even at 10mg a day or whatever.
pressmaster
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I would forget about using ph or nething suppressive and focus more on things like cortisol suppression and naturally anabolic supplements such as creatine and no products.Even if this theory works using an oral during pct and then getting right back on cycle seems a little foolish and you could probably get even more gains n the end by just extending your cycle and then doing a real pct with nothing suppressiveas opposed to using orals n low doses during pct.A ph or steroid no matter how small is still suppressing natural hormones.It doesn't seem 2 me like your endocrine system would very much appreciate being kept n suppression through pct and then going right back on another cycle.A general rule of thumb I use is time "on"+"pct"=time off b4 starting another cycle.