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Best GH booster out there

MAxximal said:
correct if I`m wrong after the body detects the extra amino acids is possible use them for the workouts (heavy weights) before the body converts in glucose?
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When you excercise, your muscle mainly use glucose :)
it's when your muscle grow, it use amino acids.
since your muscle need to grow for days, especially at night time, you need to feed it.

Again, our body use nutritions with priority. For works need to use glucose (eg. excercise), it uses glucose first, then others. For jobs need to use amino acid (eg. build up new tissue), it uses amino acids first. So don't worry too much about converting, if you eat about like how much your muscle need, there won't be much left to become glucose.

The reason we take BCAAs at working out is to preserve muscle; your body use glucose first when you push up; when glucose is used up, you don't want your muscle eat itself to do the heavy job.
 
narraboth said:
When you excercise, your muscle mainly use glucose :)
it's when your muscle grow, it use amino acids.
since your muscle need to grow for days, especially at night time, you need to feed it.

Again, our body use nutritions with priority. For works need to use glucose (eg. excercise), it uses glucose first, then others. For jobs need to use amino acid (eg. build up new tissue), it uses amino acids first. So don't worry too much about converting, if you eat about like how much your muscle need, there won't be much left to become glucose.

The reason we take BCAAs at working out is to preserve muscle; your body use glucose first when you push up; when glucose is used up, you don't want your muscle eat itself to do the heavy job.
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well i ever use 20-25g of BCAA thru the day in a gallon of water maybe is good idea add some Glutamine i used years back and the recovery was too fast :thumbsup:
 
narraboth said:
When you excercise, your muscle mainly use glucose :)
it's when your muscle grow, it use amino acids.
since your muscle need to grow for days, especially at night time, you need to feed it.

Again, our body use nutritions with priority. For works need to use glucose (eg. excercise), it uses glucose first, then others. For jobs need to use amino acid (eg. build up new tissue), it uses amino acids first. So don't worry too much about converting, if you eat about like how much your muscle need, there won't be much left to become glucose.

The reason we take BCAAs at working out is to preserve muscle; your body use glucose first when you push up; when glucose is used up, you don't want your muscle eat itself to do the heavy job.
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So basically if on a low carb diet which I tend to stay on BCAA's and Glutamine are what I use for my sources of energy to prevent catabolism so you just verified my thought process on this. The body goes after Glutamine in the muscle when catabolism is taking place it is the easiest for it to break down into glycogen from everything I have read. Maybe even more importanlty if trying to avoid an insuln spike which is known to happen at with BCAA's and more specifically Luecine then Glutamine would be a great choice. Now I do not know if Glutamine is one of the aminos that cross the brain barrier for GH. I do know the glutamine even though easily broken down into ATP it does not cause an insuline spike compared to other amino acids.

MAxximal said:
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well i ever use 20-25g of BCAA thru the day in a gallon of water maybe is good idea add some Glutamine i used years back and the recovery was too fast :thumbsup:
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You can see the benefits above of glutamine, however they are also beneficial in weight loss and perhaps more importantly for everyone not just lifters the Immune System. I personally mix my EAA's half and half with Glutamine. However post workout I am going to start using straight luecine with my post workout drink as it will cause it has been proven to be the most anabolic and also causes an insulin reaction that tells the body to absorb it. I am taking a PH stack no so I can really use this.
 
narraboth said:
When you excercise, your muscle mainly use glucose :)
it's when your muscle grow, it use amino acids.
since your muscle need to grow for days, especially at night time, you need to feed it.

Again, our body use nutritions with priority. For works need to use glucose (eg. excercise), it uses glucose first, then others. For jobs need to use amino acid (eg. build up new tissue), it uses amino acids first. So don't worry too much about converting, if you eat about like how much your muscle need, there won't be much left to become glucose.

The reason we take BCAAs at working out is to preserve muscle; your body use glucose first when you push up; when glucose is used up, you don't want your muscle eat itself to do the heavy job.
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The above underlined sentence is what we need to focus in on here. Nutrient timing, as well supplement timing, can be manipulated in order to illicit physiological responses from products X, Y, or Z, that otherwise might not occur.
 
stxnas said:
The above underlined sentence is what we need to focus in on here. Nutrient timing, as well supplement timing, can be manipulated in order to illicit physiological responses from products X, Y, or Z, that otherwise might not occur.
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T-AD said:
My list of viable GH boosters:


(notice the blank list? Effects on GH from supplements is marginal at best with the vast majority of them. I come from the very real school of thought that the only real GH boosters out there come from either a back alley pharmacy, viable doctor's RX, or possibly out of the basement of some Chinese facility supplying said back alley pharmacy.)
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TheTransforma said:
Doing sprint bouts on an empty stomach raises HGH by 400%. That is for free.
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Both of the above posts are very accurate in my opinion. I believe based on my current collection of information and knowledge pertaining to this topic, the only viable method of growth hormone modulation would be through nutrition, training, and sleeping habits with perhaps some GABA or other low-cost proven alternatives to the expensive products that have been released as of late.
 
narraboth said:
according to my new friend schwellington (lol), gelatin powder is a good GH booster.
he bought it in supermarket and takes about 10 grams before bed with BCAAs, and got deeper sleep, vivid dream, better recovery and smoother skin.

I am gonna to buy some and try today.
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Excellent point... there was a very in-depth write up about gelatin in last month's Muscular Development. I am still unsure on where to buy it and what type/brand will offer the most quality.
 
Outstanding said:
Excellent point... there was a very in-depth write up about gelatin in last month's Muscular Development. I am still unsure on where to buy it and what type/brand will offer the most quality.
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He said he bought unflavored gelatin at krogers or albertsons.
(are they American supermarkets? I live in the UK)
and he takes two sarchets before bed. (I guess two sarchets are 20 grams)

I think gelatin are all the same (well you can have beef or pork one), as long as there are not too much added ingredients.

the research is here:
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CONTROLLED LABS said:
kaboom :D

this is gonna be hot. loggers starting this week :)
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Actually looks like a good product re ingredient profile . . . Will be watching the logs . . .
 
Outstanding said:
Excellent point... there was a very in-depth write up about gelatin in last month's Muscular Development. I am still unsure on where to buy it and what type/brand will offer the most quality.
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Did anyone read this part?

Results: Peak values of GH were higher after ingestion of the AA mixture compared with ingestion of ARG + LYS (P < 0.05). GH responses, as determined by area under the curve, did not significantly differ after ingestion of the complete soy protein, hydrolyzed soy protein, or AA mixture but were all higher than after placebo (P < 0.05). Insulin responses (area under the curve) were higher after ingestion of hydrolyzed soy protein, complete soy protein, and AA mixture, compared with placebo (P < 0.05). Glucose concentrations were unaffected.

I find it odd that insulin and GH responses were higher compared to the placebo group. That's almost an exact contradiction of everything taught about the GH/Insulin antagonism.
 
narraboth said:
He said he bought unflavored gelatin at krogers or albertsons.
(are they American supermarkets? I live in the UK)
and he takes two sarchets before bed. (I guess two sarchets are 20 grams)

I think gelatin are all the same (well you can have beef or pork one), as long as there are not too much added ingredients.

the research is here:
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Thanks a lot! Yes, I am in USA :) I am curious if Wal Mart will have this 'ingredient,' and how it differs from Jell-O, haha ;)
 
Outstanding said:
Thanks a lot! Yes, I am in USA :) I am curious if Wal Mart will have this 'ingredient,' and how it differs from Jell-O, haha ;)
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there is only one ingredient: gelatin.
sometimes there will be small amount of SO2 as whitener, but should be under FDA standard.

I think Jelly-O contains sugar and much water so it's difficult to take much.
 
Rodja said:
Did anyone read this part?

Results: Peak values of GH were higher after ingestion of the AA mixture compared with ingestion of ARG + LYS (P < 0.05). GH responses, as determined by area under the curve, did not significantly differ after ingestion of the complete soy protein, hydrolyzed soy protein, or AA mixture but were all higher than after placebo (P < 0.05). Insulin responses (area under the curve) were higher after ingestion of hydrolyzed soy protein, complete soy protein, and AA mixture, compared with placebo (P < 0.05). Glucose concentrations were unaffected.

I find it odd that insulin and GH responses were higher compared to the placebo group. That's almost an exact contradiction of everything taught about the GH/Insulin antagonism.
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really? what textbook? that's not I have been taught.

If you inject external GH to rat and human, insulin will jump up responsively. If you inject glucose to those beings, insulin peak would be higher than control group.

For internal GH, those who have GH-secreting tumor also got high insulin level when they have the same blood sugar level.

I think it's quite reasonable that if you stimulate GH, your insulin will be forced to increase (to make your blood sugar level constant, because GH can cause insulin resistant).

In another way round, if you inject insulin to someone, he will get GH higher; the test is called Growth Hormone Insulin Stimulation Test.
 
Hyperglycemia and the subsequent insulin increase are known antagonists of GH secretion and prolonged GH usage can lead to insulin resistance and/or type II diabetes (in extreme cases).
 
Rodja said:
Hyperglycemia and the subsequent insulin increase are known antagonists of GH secretion and prolonged GH usage can lead to insulin resistance and/or type II diabetes (in extreme cases).
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first part, yes, so it's very normal that protein will boost GH and insulin isn't it.

second part, that's mainly base on external GH injection or tumor.
 
MAxximal said:
how much gelatin did you use?
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he uses 2 packs, I don't know how much, maybe 20g.

20g gelatin powder can be easily swallowed with 250ml water. I took 10g with 120ml water, was ok. but don't expect it will dissolve into liquid unless you heat it.
 
narraboth said:
he uses 2 packs, I don't know how much, maybe 20g.

20g gelatin powder can be easily swallowed with 250ml water. I took 10g with 120ml water, was ok. but don't expect it will dissolve into liquid unless you heat it.
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before bed or before weight sessions? off course "sugar free gelatin"
 
MAxximal said:
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Before amino acids can enter the Krebs cycle, their amino group (NH2) must first be removed by a process called deamination. Deamination occurs in hepatocytes and produces ammonia (NH3). The liver cells then convert the highly toxic ammonia to urea that is excreted in the urine.
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This is also why you may smell like ammonia if you work out hard. It means your body is using amino acids for energy and you are overrunning your liver's rate at which it can convert ammonia into urea. This isn't a bad thing for the short term though since the ammonia is secreted in your sweat and your liver will catch up eventually.

Also, contrary to popular bro science, it's not an insulin spike that blocks hGH release, it's the rise in blood glucose that acts on the hypothalamus blocking it's release of GHRH that then blocks hGH release from the pituitary.
 
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Doing sprint bouts on an empty stomach raises HGH by 400%. That is for free
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Where did you see this?, Do you have any studies??
THank you!
 
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