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What do you guys think about a 4 week PCT, then 4 weeks of the ALv3 then into a new cycle? 4 weeks is not the ideal period of time....but even at 8 weeks right after PCT then into another cycle.....ALv3 is supposed to be minimally suppressive right? so using it right after your PCT month wouldn't be such a bad idea? or maybe it is? Since your coming right out of PCT its not like you want to suppress yourself straightaway....
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
What do you guys think about a 4 week PCT, then 4 weeks of the ALv3 then into a new cycle? 4 weeks is not the ideal period of time....but even at 8 weeks right after PCT then into another cycle.....ALv3 is supposed to be minimally suppressive right? so using it right after your PCT month wouldn't be such a bad idea? or maybe it is? Since your coming right out of PCT its not like you want to suppress yourself straightaway....
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Only bloods can determine if your fully recovered or not. If they come back good then you could run ALV3 for 4 weeks or 16 weeks.
 
Well I'm gonna run everything but the clomid past the 4 weeks, for 6-8 weeks total (like the titanium/division 1/triazole or erase, DAA etc etc)....so I'll assume I am recovered....but I was gonna get another 7 spray to run post PCT (running one end of cycle right now) and some 11 spray as well......but hell, if they actually come out with the ALv3 finally? I'll just run that for 8 weeks instead of 7 spray and 11 spray overlapped for 6 weeks (4 weeks each, overlapped for 2 weeks in the middle). pretty much the same cost per 4 week run either way with PP or prototype....and they are essentially the same product I think....
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
Well I'm gonna run everything but the clomid past the 4 weeks, for 6-8 weeks total (like the titanium/division 1/triazole or erase, DAA etc etc)....so I'll assume I am recovered....but I was gonna get another 7 spray to run post PCT (running one end of cycle right now) and some 11 spray as well......but hell, if they actually come out with the ALv3 finally? I'll just run that for 8 weeks instead of 7 spray and 11 spray overlapped for 6 weeks (4 weeks each, overlapped for 2 weeks in the middle). pretty much the same cost per 4 week run either way with PP or prototype....and they are essentially the same product I think....
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Just run it 8 weeks...this version is going to be a different animal, much stronger.
 
ryansm said:
Just run it 8 weeks...this version is going to be a different animal, much stronger.
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yeah probably 8 weeks.....just wondering how it compared to using 11 spray and 7 spray combo as far as suppression goes....since I'll be jumping on it RIGHT after PCT....wanted something very minimally suppressive. would be going into a very suppressive cycle right after the ALv3 anyways....but would be nice to have 1 month PCT and 2 months post-PCT with little to no suppression to follow up the PCT.... before jumping onto something hardcore.....sort of the next best thing to 3 months off time.....
 
HereToStudy said:
Hoping for end of May.

Warbird, what are you PCTing for again? what was the cycle?
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CycleS lol.....AHv3 4 per day for 7 weeks, Epi 30-60mg for 6 weeks, then AHv3 3 per day/300mg PStanz per day/1-2ml Trenazone per day at 6 weeks. so 18 weeks, but the AHv3 4 a day for 7 weeks wasn't terribly suppressive at least :D............But I'm gonna use clomid, TRS2, Triazole, Titanium XL/Division 1, anabeta plus want to work in the OSTA Rx but not sure on the dosage. I want to go back to low calorie after the PCT month though, so I want to be "on" something while at 1500-1800 cals per day... I figure ALv3 is the best option....
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
CycleS lol.....AHv3 4 per day for 7 weeks, Epi 30-60mg for 6 weeks, then AHv3 3 per day/300mg PStanz per day/1-2ml Trenazone per day at 6 weeks. so 18 weeks, but the AHv3 4 a day for 7 weeks wasn't terribly suppressive at least :D............But I'm gonna use clomid, TRS2, Triazole, Titanium XL/Division 1, anabeta plus want to work in the OSTA Rx but not sure on the dosage. I want to go back to low calorie after the PCT month though, so I want to be "on" something while at 1500-1800 cals per day... I figure ALv3 is the best option....
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I would wait at least 8 weeks, run the Osta the back half of the 4 weeks off, I'm running it now and it is legit
 
ryansm said:
I would wait at least 8 weeks, run the Osta the back half of the 4 weeks off, I'm running it now and it is legit
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maybe something like this:

Weeks 1-4 (PCT): TRS-2, Clomid 25mg day, Titanium XL, Anabeta, Triazole
Weeks 2-8: Titanium XL, Triazole, Anabeta, Division 1
Weeks 5-8: Osta-Rx 20mg per day
Weeks 9-16: ALv3 6x per day, Erase ?x per day, (maybe some sort of on cycle test booster to offset the minor suppression?)

I prefer to be more aggressive, but this makes sense I think....
 
HereToStudy said:
Wow that cycle.
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at least I kept an eye on everything, and took the right support supps. Shyt, the last month I was up to 9 hawthorn extract caps....and thats to keep me at 140/85, right on the fence of high normal/high. once I drop that trifecta I'll be down to 122/72 again I bet. which is fine since its only elevated for 6 weeks and I expect it on all that DHT + trenazone. and my PCT is pretty intensive....with non-suppressive stuff for the 3 months afterwards. pretty much time on = time off if you subscribe to the idea that OSTA and then ALv3 once a day dosing is pretty much non-suppressive if done right.
 
ryansm said:
FYI the new AndroLean is about 7 weeks out...it is currently in motion:)
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Finally
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
maybe something like this:

Weeks 1-4 (PCT): TRS-2, Clomid 25mg day, Titanium XL, Anabeta, Triazole
Weeks 2-8: Titanium XL, Triazole, Anabeta, Division 1
Weeks 5-8: Osta-Rx 20mg per day
Weeks 9-16: ALv3 6x per day, Erase ?x per day, (maybe some sort of on cycle test booster to offset the minor suppression?)

I prefer to be more aggressive, but this makes sense I think....
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Ya along those lines I wouldn't worry about the erase weeks 9-16, save it for after, if anything run DAA as your t-booster
 
ryansm said:
Ya along those lines I wouldn't worry about the erase weeks 9-16, save it for after, if anything run DAA as your t-booster
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I like to run an AI whenever possible since I am a bloaty bitch....taking a month break here and there of course. so yeah, for most guys that would be unnecessary. I hesitate to take the DAA any other time than in the PCT month anymore...but with some anti-prolactin supps I guess its pretty safe to use....
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
I like to run an AI whenever possible since I am a bloaty bitch....taking a month break here and there of course. so yeah, for most guys that would be unnecessary. I hesitate to take the DAA any other time than in the PCT month anymore...but with some anti-prolactin supps I guess its pretty safe to use....
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I have the same issues as u...
I'm trying to plan a cycle right now lol
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
at least I kept an eye on everything, and took the right support supps. Shyt, the last month I was up to 9 hawthorn extract caps....and thats to keep me at 140/85, right on the fence of high normal/high. once I drop that trifecta I'll be down to 122/72 again I bet. which is fine since its only elevated for 6 weeks and I expect it on all that DHT + trenazone. and my PCT is pretty intensive....with non-suppressive stuff for the 3 months afterwards. pretty much time on = time off if you subscribe to the idea that OSTA and then ALv3 once a day dosing is pretty much non-suppressive if done right.
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Wasn't knocking it, just my reaction to seeing it all listed out.
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
I like to run an AI whenever possible since I am a bloaty bitch....taking a month break here and there of course. so yeah, for most guys that would be unnecessary. I hesitate to take the DAA any other time than in the PCT month anymore...but with some anti-prolactin supps I guess its pretty safe to use....
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On a SERM so I don't see an issue in PCT, I'm still not convinced of AI's in PCT it's crazy to see how everyone thinks it is kosher now
 
ryansm said:
On a SERM so I don't see an issue in PCT, I'm still not convinced of AI's in PCT it's crazy to see how everyone thinks it is kosher now
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I think it depends on the person. I brought my aromasin through my last PCT, and felt it was within good reason, as I have seen on prior PCT bloodwork, I tend to have very heightened estrogen in PCT.
 
HereToStudy said:
I think it depends on the person. I brought my aromasin through my last PCT, and felt it was within good reason, as I have seen on prior PCT bloodwork, I tend to have very heightened estrogen in PCT.
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I tend to have heightened estrogen even while on high doses of AI's :D funny enough I have been getting this pain below my abdomen....and I said earlier today "I feel like my uterus is gonna fall out" lol
 
HereToStudy said:
I think it depends on the person. I brought my aromasin through my last PCT, and felt it was within good reason, as I have seen on prior PCT bloodwork, I tend to have very heightened estrogen in PCT.
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Just taper the SERM...

Few AI's are applicable imo if used
 
SalTheMan said:
Can anybody help me out? I need some info on andromass v1 and v3, private message would be prefered
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What kind of info? You can visit our site here and get all the info you need

If you are looking for a coupon code shoot me a PM
 
I would love to cut with androlean but the price is a wee bit prohibitive. I have a beer belly that won't go away completely and it would be nice to try it out. I just can't justify spending the money
 
jacobxcaliber said:
I would love to cut with androlean but the price is a wee bit prohibitive. I have a beer belly that won't go away completely and it would be nice to try it out. I just can't justify spending the money
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Fix your diet first!
You may have some lingering effects of the 'metabolic syndrome'.
Yes harsh, but honest
 
HereToStudy said:
^ I can't wait for mine :)
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Someone repackage it for me and send it to me cause customs for Australia sucks
 
ryansm said:
It's undergoing beta testing now so we are close...
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PERFECT!! I really like the idea behind the AndroLean+AndroDrive stack :)! And all that without need of a SERM haha , we are gonna see more ripped people around with that!!
 
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