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I think Jacob may be waiting till AP is out in all the stores, i know Nutraplanet will have it in a couple days :)
 
Thanks for the reply.Just wasnt sure if this was brushed under the rug or if it was just accidentaly forgotten.
 
Send me some AP..Ill get the one of the only nutrition centers in town to pick you guys up..KU is a college town your stuff would sell like hotcakes.
 
this week..times are hectic and stock is flying. We will gift by friday..
 
USPLabs said:
this week..times are hectic and stock is flying. We will gift by friday..
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USPLabs ive been trying to email your company for about a week now about my AP. Can you respond with an email. Or respond to this thread maybe we can work it out. Dont know if your guy is on vacation being that its the beginning of the year and all.
 
on workout days if you are supposed to take AP before breakfast, pre and post workout... what if you eat breakfast at 5am, pre workout is 8am, and post workout is 10am, is this too close together or should it follow the off workout days in scenarios like this?
 
tattoopierced1 said:
on workout days if you are supposed to take AP before breakfast, pre and post workout... what if you eat breakfast at 5am, pre workout is 8am, and post workout is 10am, is this too close together or should it follow the off workout days in scenarios like this?
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I would dose one before breakfast to get all that food working for ya right away then again post workout and last one before dinner or somewheres close to 4ish. IMO
 
Speedbacker said:
Don't mean to keep badgering you guys with questions, but what do you think about taking AP before a postworkout shake containing waxy maize starch?
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Speed,
I've asked this question before as well. -Dead silence, no respone, perhaps because the effects aren't well known (yet). So consequently, I had to experiment myself.

WM is a complex carb, but it absorbes about twice as fast as dextrose without the insulin spike.

So my guess is go ahead and take the AP 15 minutes before your large WM & CEE mix (or whatever custom blend you like)
and then follow up with your after training meal as usual.
The body is supposedly reacting to a complex carb despite it's speed of absorption.

I've been doing this with no ill effects (that I know of!) or increased hypo feeling.
If someone learns more about WM and AP, hopefully they will chime in also.
 
Joint Fracture said:
Speed,
I've asked this question before as well. -Dead silence, no respone, perhaps because the effects aren't well known (yet). So consequently, I had to experiment myself.

WM is a complex carb, but it absorbes about twice as fast as dextrose without the insulin spike.

So my guess is go ahead and take the AP 15 minutes before your large WM & CEE mix (or whatever custom blend you like)
and then follow up with your after training meal as usual.
The body is supposedly reacting to a complex carb despite it's speed of absorption.

I've been doing this with no ill effects (that I know of!) or increased hypo feeling.
If someone learns more about WM and AP, hopefully they will chime in also.
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Sorry about the non-response, I didn't see the question before. Waxy Maize Starch is technically a complex carbohydrate, but only in the most formal sense in terms of structure. It is really, IMO, just a marketed sugar. How it behaves in the body does not mirror something such as a long grain rice, or whole grains, in terms of absorption and effects on Insulin. Besides the one study done by the original manufacturer, there is not very much evidence to support otherwise.

With that being said however, go with it if it works for you. All the data and study's in the world can only hypothesize, and if it is working for you in a practical sense than keep given 'er, so to speak. However, I personally would never pay for sugar, or eat sugar after a workout, but that is just me.
 
Mullet Soldier,
i'm too am not a sugar fan and would like to read more on your views regarding why not to taking it post work out when most advise consuming 50-100g simple sugars with protein post w/o for the insulin and recovery benifits.
 
Muscle Mania said:
Mullet Soldier,
i'm too am not a sugar fan and would like to read more on your views regarding why not to taking it post work out when most advise consuming 50-100g simple sugars with protein post w/o for the insulin and recovery benifits.
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Oi. This has been a pretty heated debate and has been discussed ad naseum throughout the boards. However, to sum up, I just feel that the exact same effects in terms of insulin and recovery can be made with a nutritionally sound choice such as Oats or a Whole Grain Bagel, without the risk of adipose storage.

Here is a thread with my summized thoughts on GI awhile back
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Mullet, I agree completely. Oats are the best carb source for pwo and ideal with AP. Ive experimented with several different carbs on AP and oats work best for me.
 
Joint Fracture said:
Speed,
I've asked this question before as well. -Dead silence, no respone, perhaps because the effects aren't well known (yet). So consequently, I had to experiment myself.

WM is a complex carb, but it absorbes about twice as fast as dextrose without the insulin spike.

So my guess is go ahead and take the AP 15 minutes before your large WM & CEE mix (or whatever custom blend you like)
and then follow up with your after training meal as usual.
The body is supposedly reacting to a complex carb despite it's speed of absorption.

I've been doing this with no ill effects (that I know of!) or increased hypo feeling.
If someone learns more about WM and AP, hopefully they will chime in also.
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I doudt that WMS does not cause an insulin spike. Where did you read that?
 
Any info on the write-up? Also USP - I have used the Yellow Gold powder and saw mediocre results. Will the new version prove to be stronger? If you feel that the change makes a significant difference, I will order up a couple bottles and give it another try. Let me know what you think.
 
USPLabs said:
this week..times are hectic and stock is flying. We will gift by friday..
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Thats good to hear even if Im not chosen.There have been many that have contributed and congrats on what seems to be an amazing and innovative product!
 
mmowry said:
Thats good to hear even if Im not chosen.There have been many that have contributed and congrats on what seems to be an amazing and innovative product!
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Agreed.

Did shrugs today and can honestly say this was the first time I've ever experienced neck pumps. IT HURTS SOOOOOO GOOOOOOD!

I've been trying AP with everything from oats and brown rice to mega mass 4000. This stuff is the real deal. I'm getting stretch marks on my arms and I haven't done arms yet!

Thanks a lot USPLabs for making another product that works and ruining my faith in crap-tech bs supplement companies. Jerks. :rasp:
 
USPLabs said:
I doudt that WMS does not cause an insulin spike. Where did you read that?
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Anecdotally from the IM boards and TP gang, but I don't know if they have now changed their opinion on that. It was almost a year ago when that was stated.
 
Hmm, I may have jumbled the insulin response with the osmolality rate.

I retract my previous statement.

From TP website:
So what’s so special with Waxy Maize in comparison to dextrose or maltodextrin? Many people have used a mix of dextrose and maltodextrin for post workout nutrition for years because it works and is vital for proper glycogen replenishment. Welcome to the new era of post workout nutrition… Waxy Maize Starch. WMS has a much higher molecular weight and a much lower osmolarity rate compared to dextrose or maltodextrin, so what does this mean… Mainly, WMS bypasses the stomach, is absorbed by the intestines and immediately is assimilated; this is all done at a much faster rate than dextrose or maltodextrin, almost double.
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Joint Fracture said:
Hmm, I may have jumbled the insulin response with the osmolality rate.

I retract my previous statement.

From TP website:
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The problem with products like this which hype the gastric uptake phase is they never provide any concrete evidence beyond that phase. It is going to be absorbed faster, of course that is a given, however the question more pertinent to us isL Where is it going after? Simply because it is absorbed in the stomach at a ridiculous rate does not mean it is permeating the cell any faster, or at an increased rate for that matter.
 
ugab37 said:
Mullet, I agree completely. Oats are the best carb source for pwo and ideal with AP. Ive experimented with several different carbs on AP and oats work best for me.
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I agree also, oats are the way to go. Not to mention dirt cheap compared to WMS.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
however the question more pertinent to us isL Where is it going after?
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Bobo said:
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LOL.


That argument has just always bothered me. Pundints of WMS, Malto., Dextro., and so on have always hyped the rate of gastric uptake, and have even gone so far as to provide blood glucose strips to testers. Well....So??

Show me a product that has both increased absorption and cell permeation rates without the risk of VAT/SAT storage I'll be all over it. Till' then, Mullet likes his oats/whole grain bagels.
 
Big BAMA said:
Two quick questions.
1) phellodendron- has long been used by the Chinese to treat uclers and Diabetes. Controlling the sugar in the blood.
Langerstroemia Speciosa- to be more specific Banaba- is used to control the handling of glucose and lower blood sugar.
With using both of these blood sugar "reducers" how do you explain the insulin spike this is suppose to give?
2) If taken when eating like the label says, Why do you want to reduce the blood sugar if you want the increase of insulin?
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AP works independent from insulin. We really do not want an insulin spike.
 
ChiTown72 said:
So how will this work comapred to the Cissus/Powerfull stack?
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It will work differently and would stack favourably with cissus and PowerFull. As far as gains well that's completely an individual thing, i will say this it's hands down the best USP product to date.
 
CHAPS said:
It will work differently and would stack favourably with cissus and PowerFull. As far as gains well that's completely an individual thing, i will say this it's hands down the best USP product to date.
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I agree but Cissus is another category of greatness as a therapuetic. PowerFULL is still very very unique.
 
AP - Post Workout Anabolic Window and other stuff...

Since carbohydrates elicit an insulin response, I assume the best time to take the "Anabolic Pump" product would be prior to a carbohydrate-containing meal.

But my question is as follows: would the greatest response to Anabolic Pump be realized if taken IMMEDIATELY after working out, if you take it just prior to your post workout meal?

I've read research which suggests that, since the post-workout anabolic window lasts for about thirty to forty minutes after working out, it is best to ingest as much as 25% to 30% of your daily calorie (and nutrient / supplement) intake within thirty minutes of completing your workout. Would taking Anabolic Pump just before this meal create sort of a multiplier effect for nutrient uptake and insulin potentiation?

Another question: Since Anabolic Pump affects muscle cells, and since a lower bodyfat content increases your metabolic rate, is it accurate to say that Anabolic Pump also offers an added benefit of increasing a person's metabolic rate over time?

A final question: since Anabolic Pump stimulates lipolysis, should we use it in conjunction with other lipolytic agents or supplements? Likewise, with respect to muscle cells, should we expect better results if we stack Anabolic pump with other agents specifically for muscle cells, like protein, glutamine, and creatine?

That's all - hope that helps.
 
BDW said:
But my question is as follows: would the greatest response to Anabolic Pump be realized if taken IMMEDIATELY after working out, if you take it just prior to your post workout meal?

I've read research which suggests that, since the post-workout anabolic window lasts for about thirty to forty minutes after working out, it is best to ingest as much as 25% to 30% of your daily calorie (and nutrient / supplement) intake within thirty minutes of completing your workout. Would taking Anabolic Pump just before this meal create sort of a multiplier effect for nutrient uptake and insulin potentiation?

Another question: Since Anabolic Pump affects muscle cells, and since a lower bodyfat content increases your metabolic rate, is it accurate to say that Anabolic Pump also offers an added benefit of increasing a person's metabolic rate over time?

A final question: since Anabolic Pump stimulates lipolysis, should we use it in conjunction with other lipolytic agents or supplements? Likewise, with respect to muscle cells, should we expect better results if we stack Anabolic pump with other agents specifically for muscle cells, like protein, glutamine, and creatine?

That's all - hope that helps.
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1) Yes, you'll get the most out of Anabolic-Pump by taking it post-workout.
2) You could say that, you could also say that about healthy food though.
3) Yes, just keep in mind to keep away from insulin mimicking products. Anti-Cortisol products would be a good addition for fat-loss purposes and creatine would be a great combo with Anabolic-Pump.
 
Ah, well they have. If memory serves me right I picked somewhatgifted, canadian er....someguy with canadian in his name, zombie, browndustin and hairylarry.
 
I know this is a little old. But how did you know the other supplements would work before you bought them? Does every Supplement company give you free Supplements for you to try? I know the first time I bought tuna, I had no idea if I would like it, and no one would give me a free can. I mean, come on, your logic holds no pump. Give me a free bottle, and maybe I'll buy more? :duel:

HillbillyRock said:
I would really like to try some before I buy it.I mean 50 bucks is alot to me.It looks killer but idk.If it is as good as it sounds than I would buy more product,hard to spend money you don't have when it could be spent on something you know that works.I am not demeaning this product,I have no clue about it,I am just skepticle with my hard earned doe,I mean look at everyone buying M1-d
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bigluke39 said:
I know this is a little old. But how did you know the other supplements would work before you bought them? Does every Supplement company give you free Supplements for you to try? I know the first time I bought tuna, I had no idea if I would like it, and no one would give me a free can. I mean, come on, your logic holds no pump. Give me a free bottle, and maybe I'll buy more? :duel:
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A lot of supp companies (at least the board sponsors) give trusted members some free product before it is released to the public. In turn those members run a log of the effects they see. This way others can see what their piers get out of something rather then reading some write up that is just made up by the company. Obviously this doesn't tell you what a supplement will do for you personally but the company can get an idea if the product actually works and the readers can get a feel for the product before it is released and actually see the testing and results.
 
I understand that completely, but when someone starts in by saying I might buy some if you give it to me first, it makes them look like a child wanting a cookie before dinner.

bigstabile said:
A lot of supp companies (at least the board sponsors) give trusted members some free product before it is released to the public. In turn those members run a log of the effects they see. This way others can see what their piers get out of something rather then reading some write up that is just made up by the company. Obviously this doesn't tell you what a supplement will do for you personally but the company can get an idea if the product actually works and the readers can get a feel for the product before it is released and actually see the testing and results.
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bigluke39 said:
I understand that completely, but when someone starts in by saying I might buy some if you give it to me first, it makes them look like a child wanting a cookie before dinner.
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My bad dude. I read your post like 10 mintues after I woke up this morning and I must have just totally misread it.

I actually totally agree with you now that I understand what you were saying.
 
Any product like this that will increase IGF1,2 and 3? I used to take a product that is not on the market any more.
 
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