Hyde
Legend
I’ve done 391 in comp. So 380 would just help make a decent total and let me gauge how much power I have left.
Hyde’s Strength Odyssey
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I’ve done 391 in comp. So 380 would just help make a decent total and let me gauge how much power I have left.
MrKleen73
Legend
Oh got ya. I knew it was getting close to 400 but forgot exactly how much. Well here's to hoping for that 402!!!
Segansational
Well-known member
Love that for you lifting is a family affair! Probably are (or will be) one of the strongest families around!
Dustin07
Legend
at 119 I'd be impressed but at 114 that 12yr old girl could haul a dude out of a burning building. even in xfit I knew competitive girls squatting in the 200s but couldn't pull to save their lives.
knowing you, I have zero doubt you'll get it if it sounds like it was just a form/technical issue. You aren't going to take another shot at 400+ before comp at this point are you?
Hyde
Legend
No, I don’t think so. I need to max out on Squat Friday morning, so that’s going to use up all the rest of my recovery for this week, and I don’t think maxing out less than 2 weeks from the comp would be productive.
I know where I’m at. I know I should not attempt 408 at the meet, and 380 was easy.
Yeah I feel good about it. I still have a few bench sessions to polish technique up.
BennyMagoo79
Well-known member
Does over-reaching on bench cook you for deadlift?
MrKleen73
Legend
It did not for me. They take the bar so quickly if any reverse in direction, so the struggle doesn't last too long, and doesn't wear the back out, or did not for me on my failed attempt. I was strong as a bull for my pulls.
Hyde
Legend
Generally, no. Although my upper back & trap was pretty sore after that failed attempt.
What dictates your absolute capacity for deadlift will more be how hard you pushed squat, how fast the meet is moving, and your general fitness/preparedness.
Jeremyk1
Well-known member
Yeah I feel that. I shot so far past my old PR on deadlifts at a meet. And a couple people told me I made it look easy. I don’t know what it is, but yeah, strong as all heck on deads, even after failing bench.
gphagan1
Legend
That’s probably a smart move not maxing out anymore on bench before the competition. Your in a good place, knowing you can hit 380 then go for 402….you’ve got this. Knowing what went wrong on your miss is half the battle. Having to correct technique is way better than just not having the strength. It still looks like you will beat your best on all your lifts and total, and that 402 bench is icing on the cake.
Hyde
Legend
9/22/23
BW 266.0 yesterday
Jigsaw lower body
Split Squat
KB Suitcase Carries
KB One-leg Deadlift
Squat, Texas squatbar
55 2x5
165,275x3
385x1
+belt & sleeves
451,518,570,606,622x1 PR
Deadlift, Kabuki deadlift bar
264x3
374x2
+belt
440,485,529x1
Biggest squat of my life; today was a great day. 622 was faster & easier than 606, too. It was not the limit, not at all. Should have taken at least 633, but we were already well past the goal & this was the first time I’ve ever done 600+ twice in one day. This sets me up to take 644 for a 3rd attempt.
Woke up yesterday hacking yellow mucus and it was even worse today, so to be so strong even while sick bodes well for the meet.
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BW 266.0 yesterday
Jigsaw lower body
Split Squat
KB Suitcase Carries
KB One-leg Deadlift
Squat, Texas squatbar
55 2x5
165,275x3
385x1
+belt & sleeves
451,518,570,606,622x1 PR
Deadlift, Kabuki deadlift bar
264x3
374x2
+belt
440,485,529x1
Biggest squat of my life; today was a great day. 622 was faster & easier than 606, too. It was not the limit, not at all. Should have taken at least 633, but we were already well past the goal & this was the first time I’ve ever done 600+ twice in one day. This sets me up to take 644 for a 3rd attempt.
Woke up yesterday hacking yellow mucus and it was even worse today, so to be so strong even while sick bodes well for the meet.
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gphagan1
Legend
Wow, now that’s a heavy leg day…..A 622 squat after a 606, something tells me this is going to be a good meet, especially if you hit, no, when you hit 644…..Beastmode
BennyMagoo79
Well-known member
Congratulations man!
On the road to 700!!
Hyde
Legend
Yeah it felt really good - it was very fast & clean. I probably could have taken another lift even at 633 after, but it would have been unnecessarily risky. I know there was more in the tank.
Hyde
Legend
9/24/23
Miniband Pullaparts 4x25
Tri Pressdown 3x25
Flies
Dislocations
Dynamic Bench, Ohio powerbar
44x5
+doubled minis
44,88x5
154 5x5
Wide NG Lat Pulldown
60,100x20
120,140x15
140x10
EZBar Tr Extension
+50x15,10,10
EZBar Curls
Empty 2x12 tempo
DB Shoulder Press
20 2x12
Blowing a ton of snot, but it felt good to some great bench practice in. Everything else was very focused hypertrophy, trying to get quality movement with superior elbow flexion & rebuild that end ROM function as much as possible. Practicing better movement, essentially.
Miniband Pullaparts 4x25
Tri Pressdown 3x25
Flies
Dislocations
Dynamic Bench, Ohio powerbar
44x5
+doubled minis
44,88x5
154 5x5
Wide NG Lat Pulldown
60,100x20
120,140x15
140x10
EZBar Tr Extension
+50x15,10,10
EZBar Curls
Empty 2x12 tempo
DB Shoulder Press
20 2x12
Blowing a ton of snot, but it felt good to some great bench practice in. Everything else was very focused hypertrophy, trying to get quality movement with superior elbow flexion & rebuild that end ROM function as much as possible. Practicing better movement, essentially.
jimbuick
Legend
I wish that were true for me. I’ve been spitting up funk for a month with no end in sight.
Hyde
Legend
Yeah after a couple weeks, it’s time to pull the antibiotics card for me. Unless you had a virus confirmed by physician of course. My stepdaughter already tested negative for COVID here.
I’ve got a Zpack I’m sitting on I’ll drop next week if there’s been no change with all the yellow, but I won’t do that lightly - I’ll be on orals again that week heading into the meet, so antibiotics with those is asking for gut destruction.
jimbuick
Legend
I ain’t got no insurance. If I’m still in the funk a month from now when I start work, I’ll get some medication for sure.
Segansational
Well-known member
May have asked this before, but what's the difference between the Texas vs Ohio bar?
Hyde
Legend
Normally nothing, but the Ohio power bar they use in competition is often the IPF-approved 20kg/44lb variant instead of the normal 45lb - and that 1lb is shaved from the width of the collars, making them much thinner. So just like calibrated plates are thinner & bring the weight closer to you, so too does the kg version of the OPB.
Just nice to train with the most specific gear you can when you are practicing very close. But you still have to be ready for whatever ultimately. Sometimes the person bringing X equipment doesn’t show up at the last minute.
Jeremyk1
Well-known member
One is a lot farther south.
Hyde
Legend
9/26/23
BW 264.2 yesterday
Miniband Pullaparts 4x25
Rows, Tris, Dislocations
Bench, Texas powerbar
45x8
155x5
220,265,309,353x1
+red SS
366,374x2
Woke up feeling a lot better - yesterday I was a dead man. Still blowing a lot of yellow out during training, but not when I woke up, and I didn’t have the exhausting sinus headaches to the same degree.
Opener moved like it should, then did a couple heavier doubles in the old red slanger there to practice taking 3 total attempts but get twice the lockout volume work as singles. Friday I’ll squat ~80%, then I’ll bench my last warmup, ~313, this Sunday at one week out.
BW 264.2 yesterday
Miniband Pullaparts 4x25
Rows, Tris, Dislocations
Bench, Texas powerbar
45x8
155x5
220,265,309,353x1
+red SS
366,374x2
Woke up feeling a lot better - yesterday I was a dead man. Still blowing a lot of yellow out during training, but not when I woke up, and I didn’t have the exhausting sinus headaches to the same degree.
Opener moved like it should, then did a couple heavier doubles in the old red slanger there to practice taking 3 total attempts but get twice the lockout volume work as singles. Friday I’ll squat ~80%, then I’ll bench my last warmup, ~313, this Sunday at one week out.
Dustin07
Legend
dude that's a hell of a session!! congrats on the PR, pumped for the meet!!
Dustin07
Legend
What is the cap on weight for this one ? are you able to walk into this one with more food in you this time vs the mass drop last time?
Hyde
Legend
I entered 275, so even though I’ll be going to to evening weighin session I’ll be able to eat & drink heavily while I travel to prepare. This is not ideal for DOTS, as that scales to every pound you weigh in at (so an earlier weighin shows you as “stronger” lol), but I am competing for my total.
If I was cutting, I would be sure to make the morning weighin so I had that time to begin rehydrating.
Dustin07
Legend
that's honestly way more exciting, at least for me as an observer here to your odyssey.
Of course I like comparing wilkes numbers with my buddy when I'm weighing in sub 190 and he's weighing in at 240.
And a golf handicap somehow makes it so I can 'compete' with much better players. But at the end of the day if I'm not 10 under on the course, or deadlifting Xlbs I'm not going home with the million dollar purse or the hookers and coke. big numbers for the win. nobody saw Brian Shaw pull 460kg and said "yeah but he weighs 400lbs".
feels like he was weighing in at 218 and spitting in a cup like a high school wrestler last month! haha
dapack
Well-known member
Meet came up quick. Just trying to compare notes at about how many weeks/ days do you take your last heavy lift for each? Usually I do deads at 17 days, squat 10 days and bench around 7 days. Your weights are a lot heavier obviously than mine so imagine you need a little more recovery time.
Hyde
Legend
It will be a 20-week blast by the end - 5 months of preparation.
Days Out - Intensity/Lift
28 - 100% deadlift
26 - 75% bench
24 - 90% squat
21 - 80% deadlift
19 - 100% bench
16 - 100% squat, 88% deadlift
12 - 90% bench
9 - 80% squat, 66% deadlift
7 - 80% bench
0 - Meet
Note that your days are extremely similar to mine as far as the days the last “heavy” lift is done, but mine are only 80-90% on these days. My maxes for testing & setting the peak are established much sooner.
Peaking is about acclimating the CNS, ramping it up and then shedding fatigue while specific skill is still high. You can just ramp right into a meet in a linear fashion, but generally you will be stronger if you take near maximal lifts in training at certain times and then taper down, because you will be more specifically prepared to max.
Segansational
Well-known member
Wow, great to see this level of detail laid out. Really makes me appreciate the intricacies of the sport. Do you actually do zero work the week leading into the meet, or does that just mean accessory work or too light to really "count"?
dapack
Well-known member
Thanks for the information. Mine really are not ME (100%) either, usually goal for me on those days is to try and hit my 2nd attempt which % wise would be very similar to yours.
Hyde
Legend
Basically zero. The correct approach is that whatever you do, you do no harm. You need to be fully rested and restored for the competition. You cannot get any stronger at this point, only make yourself weaker. Focus on sleep, food, and managing stress.
Some LISS cardio, take a relaxing walk, go into the gym on a Tuesday or Wednesday and catch a baby pump on incredibly light cables or band isolation movements, pull a light sled, do some mobility.
If you can, get a massage or do extra relaxing things.
For a natural athlete, especially a less experienced one, I think there can be value in a very light Tuesday or Wed barbell workout practicing some or all of the big 3, but an athlete on steroids will retain motor pattern mapping in their neurology much longer. And a more advanced athlete should have so much practice accumulated over the years that they shouldn’t need to practice a squat 3-4 days out to know how to do it, even natural. At some point, you either know how to do the lift or you don’t.
Hyde
Legend
9/29/23
Split Squats
KB Suitcase Carries
KB One-leg Deadlift
Squat, Texas squatbar
55x5
165x3
275,385x1
+belt & sleeves
451,485,496,507x1
Reverse Hyper
270 3x20
Plate-loaded Lying Leg Curl
45 3x20
ss w/ NG Widegrip Pulldowns
70,110x15
140 3x15
Final squat in the books, & it felt really good: 3 singles at 80%, plus some easy posterior & core accessory. Gotta start Anadrol back up tomorrow night. 9 days out.
Split Squats
KB Suitcase Carries
KB One-leg Deadlift
Squat, Texas squatbar
55x5
165x3
275,385x1
+belt & sleeves
451,485,496,507x1
Reverse Hyper
270 3x20
Plate-loaded Lying Leg Curl
45 3x20
ss w/ NG Widegrip Pulldowns
70,110x15
140 3x15
Final squat in the books, & it felt really good: 3 singles at 80%, plus some easy posterior & core accessory. Gotta start Anadrol back up tomorrow night. 9 days out.
Hyde
Legend
Well, you only want any bloat at the actual meet. The body will naturally adjust to whatever after several days & adjust diuresis, so day before is when I would try to get a bit of extra salt in.
Idk on MK. It really jacks my BP and causes lethargy. I might play with some 15mg tabs I have and see what happens? Anadrol will already add a little water back I expect.
MrKleen73
Legend
Yeah, and with the Anadrol pushing your BP up some already adding MK may not be the way to go.
Hyde
Legend
You know on the drol I was feeling fine but seeing 140/80 sometimes. This week off of it at very similar bodyweight and diet, same other gear & supps, I’ve seen 125/76. This is both on 80mg Telmisartan, Drol was only variable.
140 is kind of my systolic line in the sand.
gphagan1
Legend
Wow, didn’t realize it had been 5 months….time really has flew by. But you did a great job putting the weight back on, and obviously you did it all the right way because it looks like your going to top your best on all your lifts.
Hyde
Legend
10/1/23
BW 265.8
Miniband Pullaparts 2x25
Tri Pressdown 2x25
Flies, Presses, Rows, Dislocations, Rotators
Bench, Ohio powerbar
44 2x5
154x3
220,264,286,313x1
HS Incline Press
45x20
70 2x12
NG Widegrip Low Cable Row
50,70,90,110x15
EZBar Tri Extensions
+20x20
40x15
60 2x10
DB Hammercurls
25 2x12
DB Seated Rear Delt Flyes
25 2x15
Plate Raises
45x15
Last bench warmup taken today; moved like it should. I was very excited today when I was able to now do the HS Incline Press again with the widest grip through the entire ROM. This is not a particularly great machine, but it’s a big victory towards rebuilding some strength in a greater amount of flexion for training cycles to come.
BW 265.8
Miniband Pullaparts 2x25
Tri Pressdown 2x25
Flies, Presses, Rows, Dislocations, Rotators
Bench, Ohio powerbar
44 2x5
154x3
220,264,286,313x1
HS Incline Press
45x20
70 2x12
NG Widegrip Low Cable Row
50,70,90,110x15
EZBar Tri Extensions
+20x20
40x15
60 2x10
DB Hammercurls
25 2x12
DB Seated Rear Delt Flyes
25 2x15
Plate Raises
45x15
Last bench warmup taken today; moved like it should. I was very excited today when I was able to now do the HS Incline Press again with the widest grip through the entire ROM. This is not a particularly great machine, but it’s a big victory towards rebuilding some strength in a greater amount of flexion for training cycles to come.
Hyde
Legend
ART guy was pretty happy with it today as well, wants me to keep challenging the ROM as I can post-meet.
Dustin07
Legend
with the meet being peak week, will you be immediately going into some form of PCT/Natty for a given period of time now? How long would you off cycle for if you do?