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bro i told you that **** sucks....all these stims just blast alpha yo and caffine and its such an uncomfortable exp.

The funny thing is the stims that are illegal are actually physically safter than the ones that they blast in these high stim "legal: formulas.
agreed. Putting yohimbine in a pre-wo is a lazy way for a formulator to stim a product
 
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4 scoops on a red 04/2024 and I could confidently say it’s a good pre-workout and comparable to 2 scoops of the late black tubs. Obviously it’s not up to par with the OG or the black tubs but it’s better than any other preworkout available.
 
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4 scoops on a red 04/2024 and I could confidently say it’s a good pre-workout and comparable to 2 scoops of the late black tubs. Obviously it’s not up to par with the OG or the black tubs but it’s better than any other preworkout available.
4 scoops!!!!! Watch out for that cardiac arrest!
 
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4 scoops!!!!! Watch out for that cardiac arrest!
Thank you for your concern. I’m checking my heartbeat every now and then as we speak. It’s beating fast but not as fast as what I had with the OG formula…which my apple watch gave me a notification
 
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bro i told you that **** sucks....all these stims just blast alpha yo and caffine and its such an uncomfortable exp.

The funny thing is the stims that are illegal are actually physically safter than the ones that they blast in these high stim "legal: formulas.
yeah man, that stuff broke me, never again! 😂
 
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Thank you for your concern. I’m checking my heartbeat every now and then as we speak. It’s beating fast but not as fast as what I had with the OG formula…which my apple watch gave me a notification
What is both keeping you safe and putting you in risk is that you have been using it so long and continuously that you have build a strong tolerance to the immediate effects and I am afraid unfortunately to most of the benefits.
Like having used any stim in high amounts for a long time eventually require its use to even get back to your baseline before you started using stimulants.
It goes for coffee as well and few are the people that go cold turkey on coffee after a long time, maybe some people realise it not drinking the office coffee in weekends and being tired.

I only used totally 5 or max 6 tubs of Craze, 2 of them were new batch bunk and two of them were the Superbatch Craze Summer tea unlimited. Summer tea took me beyond myself mentally, not just in stimulation as in aggressive but on more levels.
After my first actually quite tasty a bit darker than Excelsior I think and a little bit tastier than Excelsior because it wasn´t as sweet and I have got a bit sick of the taste Excelsior and it also got too me toxic wise over time.

And holy kaschmoly Excelsior actually dragged me when I was two feet below the ground although in the beginning I also had so much tension and **** to do, 3 Unicourses writing essays on Pippi Långstocking and Ingmar Bergmans films.

But I also had summer to biking 15kms with my son to lake and swim and towards summers end the Excelsior fuelled Blueberry trips!
This last summer we just fell straight into lap of Lingon Mothers lap. I have never seen so many ripe and fat and sweet Lingon berries in my whole life before like in this that at thia deforestation area that doesnt look so bad. I was maybe ten years and the landscape has gotten quite varied and the Lingon berries extremely plentiful due to sunny location near the top of that local mountain although maybe only 200 metres height.....

Excelsior contnued to may mind and intellectual references and senses further. My listening to Jimi Hendrix and other music have become permanently a bit enhanced even Lol
I can clearly visualize Jimi Hendrix having a conversation about floatation with a jellyfish :ROFLMAO:

Excelsior doesn´t really crash the same say but I think quite a people who have used it consecutive days and doses sooner or later realize it takes time to recover and for me over the years even recover from DOMS but the heat strong stimulants together with maximum contraction and mind muscle connection that heat I feel is frying more
Well it was still slightly frying i my youth drinking 1,3 dimeth Hemo Rage Ultra but it creeps up on me with the years and I also become slightly more aware so that is a good point :love:

In my busiest and stimmiest of times I have almost forgot it lol.
But I do and most do have an interest to improve ourselves in different ways, physically as well as mentally as personally I still keep hoping to provide even more positive things to the world things that might even top Musclemans Stim junkie diary... Lol:ROFLMAO:

I have since young had in interest in both muscular Super Heroes like Hulk and also mental mutants like Dr Charles Xavier the powerful telepath in charge of X-men but Dark Phoenix a ravaging red head beauty who also has the power to destroy whole worlds has way more power within if she could only control it.
And those perverse rich Hellfire Club have been wanting to control that world destroying force of Dark Phoenix throughout centuries and history... Like the actually ever would be able too

And in Yoga science we can read hear about mystical yogis who have power similar to Dr Charles Xavier...

If you learn them wrongly though, in anger or with great pride and ego it is dangerous and many individuals with superpowers lose control because they lack proper guiding light although I believe we all if we reall try and look for the light we will have at least a hint or an estimate for where to look.

The supplements are interesting but sometimes even medical herbs to me and I hav found Chinese acupuncture to be an amazing medicine.
I haven´t researched it so much but some time in the future I am looking to research bpc-157 for dopamine system gut benefits and more.
Right now I am just beginning fermenting my own saurkraut, did it with red beets added a few things.

And my new very lates interest is the reuteri bacteria that is kid of expensively sold as a supplement that is possibly underdosed so people are making yoghurt with the tablets and many benefits seem good

healing gut and wounds increased testosterone and increased oxycontin the social happiness hormone
It is one bacteria with great potential.
Bacterias in the gut are not gonna give anybody the same boost as a strong stim but by building a strong healthy gut flora
it is in the gut that our serotonin dopamine etc is made and som much else and when we get that area in health it starts producing our bodys own super fuels and hormones and send out to the body for us to feel good :)

If you get your gut in check some occasional stim use will actually kick butt but also the more you become aware of how it feels with a happy stomach the aware you might also come of how toxic some supplements taste?

Added some ginger black pepper and some dried elderberries to my new batch saurkraut just really alive and kicking right now 💪. (Just a little bit of O.G Excelsior because when it ferments it develops into different strains that will put you in tough with different aspects of the Excelsior conscioussness )

Excelsior is gone , time to make reuteri yoghurt! 💪🕺💃👯‍♂️👯‍♀️:unsure:
 
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4 scoops on a red 04/2024 and I could confidently say it’s a good pre-workout and comparable to 2 scoops of the late black tubs. Obviously it’s not up to par with the OG or the black tubs but it’s better than any other preworkout available.
Personally my heart kept getting more and more sensitive to stims so for my hearts sake I really had to cut down stims.
It never happened to me but even a single time having just a bit too much could send you into stroke.
Lately with covid and vaccinations I think are a lot more heart cases and failures world wide as well.
Since my head is so hard and I have a hard time taking anybody else´s advice about moderation my heart started telling me.
From having been young like Peter Pan since forever I was suddenly trappped in a mortal body that struggled just to get up a hill we regularly hike.

Did a couple of months weight training comeback but that was tiring and now I am more breathing training and I am starting to feel lot more energised, I think I might not by any stims this Black Friday unless Craze and O.G Excelsior shows up for sale lol
 

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4 scoops on a red 04/2024 and I could confidently say it’s a good pre-workout and comparable to 2 scoops of the late black tubs. Obviously it’s not up to par with the OG or the black tubs but it’s better than any other preworkout available.
did you ever have the red 6/24?
 
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did you ever have the red 6/24?
no only 04/24 and 05/24 but I heard 06/24 is strong... I don't want to give any false hope but the tub I got from ruesco gives me the closest experience to the OG tubs with the same side effects. You need to take more yes, but if you missed out on the OG and want to try it, then now's your chance
 

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no only 04/24 and 05/24 but I heard 06/24 is strong... I don't want to give any false hope but the tub I got from ruesco gives me the closest experience to the OG tubs with the same side effects. You need to take more yes, but if you missed out on the OG and want to try it, then now's your chance
ya i feel you man i feel like the red 6/24s were strong for sure not sure how theyre going back in time with exp dates but i guess nothing really makes sense w imperial lol
 
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ya i feel you man i feel like the red 6/24s were strong for sure not sure how theyre going back in time with exp dates but i guess nothing really makes sense w imperial lol
Just to make sure…we are talking about red tub 06/2024 right ?
 
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Just for the record, my current tub is lot #INO90265 and exp. 05/24 (clear red tub), and it pretty much feels like a typical weak "non-OG" tub.
 

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Just to make sure…we are talking about red tub 06/2024 right ?
yes the black 6/24 i would consider basically og....the red 24 is def a bit different...but actually very strong and almost makes my mouth even drier than the og batches

black 6/24 looks much more similar to actual OG than the red 24 but the red 6/24 is still strong IMO
 
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no only 04/24 and 05/24 but I heard 06/24 is strong... I don't want to give any false hope but the tub I got from ruesco gives me the closest experience to the OG tubs with the same side effects. You need to take more yes, but if you missed out on the OG and want to try it, then now's your chance
I have given up on getting O.G and maybe you did but I am thinking 4 scoops of the new red tub would somehoe give you more sides?
I actauuly get nauseous from the sweetness alone if I go over one scoop, and with red 5/24 even two scoops would get me near one scoop og O.G. Actuall even likle 0.7 of O.G if I kept tolerance low would put me in a forward mode I never really got with 5/24 almost almost after abstaining from all Excelsior and then I even had to add bunch extra caffeine
 
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yes the black 6/24 i would consider basically og....the red 24 is def a bit different...but actually very strong and almost makes my mouth even drier than the og batches

black 6/24 looks much more similar to actual OG than the red 24 but the red 6/24 is still strong IMO
did you get red 24 from Predator?
But meh I am out of Excelsior spending money looking for another thing, cyclazodone was okay but felt kinda toxic and I tossed it... thinking back it could have been good in more modest doses. But not recommending anybody buying straight powdered stims, you better really carefully weigh them up and not just eyeball something that could crack your heart
 
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I have given up on getting O.G and maybe you did but I am thinking 4 scoops of the new red tub would somehoe give you more sides?
I actauuly get nauseous from the sweetness alone if I go over one scoop, and with red 5/24 even two scoops would get me near one scoop og O.G. Actuall even likle 0.7 of O.G if I kept tolerance low would put me in a forward mode I never really got with 5/24 almost almost after abstaining from all Excelsior and then I even had to add bunch extra caffeine
I get the same sides as 2 scoops from the black tub 😅
 
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I get the same sides as 2 scoops from the black tub 😅
The Excelsior crown is yours no doubt :)

I even have a hard time stomach just one scoop of the 5/24 sometimes, not that I get stimmed out and not only Excelsior but I get more or less nauseous from most sweet pwos even more so than previously.
And still having to take that many scoops. I was very disappointed when I realized tubs where getting weaker and still am lol.
Actually tried 0,75 scoops and a big cup of coffee some time after the Excelsior to try and be extra productive today but my tummy didn´t like that combination..... :(
Yeah O.G Excelsior ruined all the rest for my picky sensors lol.

Stay safe and I guess your not fourscooping everyday but I am ssurprised even if you dont get stimmed out I just couldn´t stomach that. perhaps need to look into some chemistry tek to extract the goodies, start with filtering out the large crystals if you some kind of fine mesh... Just kidding it´s not worth it.

Next time you get there just stay above and beyond just refuse to crash just decide be like that forever, energized and determined! Lol :cool:
 
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The Excelsior crown is yours no doubt :)

I even have a hard time stomach just one scoop of the 5/24 sometimes, not that I get stimmed out and not only Excelsior but I get more or less nauseous from most sweet pwos even more so than previously.
And still having to take that many scoops. I was very disappointed when I realized tubs where getting weaker and still am lol.
Actually tried 0,75 scoops and a big cup of coffee some time after the Excelsior to try and be extra productive today but my tummy didn´t like that combination..... :(
Yeah O.G Excelsior ruined all the rest for my picky sensors lol.

Stay safe and I guess your not fourscooping everyday but I am ssurprised even if you dont get stimmed out I just couldn´t stomach that. perhaps need to look into some chemistry tek to extract the goodies, start with filtering out the large crystals if you some kind of fine mesh... Just kidding it´s not worth it.

Next time you get there just stay above and beyond just refuse to crash just decide be like that forever, energized and determined! Lol :cool:
I can confidently tell you that the red tub 05/2024 I received from PN is not similar AT ALL to the red tub 04/2024 I received from ruesco. I don't know what the hell is happening but ruesco told me that they test every single batch they receive before putting it for sale on their website.

I was satisfied enough with ruesco's tub to order a second one, so for now, I'll just keep ordering off ruesco instead of PN and use it on special occasions.
 
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I can confidently tell you that the red tub 05/2024 I received from PN is not similar AT ALL to the red tub 04/2024 I received from ruesco. I don't know what the hell is happening but ruesco told me that they test every single batch they receive before putting it for sale on their website.

I was satisfied enough with ruesco's tub to order a second one, so for now, I'll just keep ordering off ruesco instead of PN and use it on special occasions.
Glad they work for you man! And glad you must have abundance enough do afford dosages regurally!

It is starting to itch in my soul and feel to reach above and beyond but supp budget is very limited at the moment,
I wish I had a good stock of O,G that I could depenend on for awhile and get into super efficienet and dancing moods at the same time,,


But so little left, yea for very important emergencies and ocassional festival parties.....

But 4 scoops... even if I could tolerate them I am afraid I barely have as much left over cash as Peter Parker normally does, like he invents his own web shooter... Lol
I am looking into some less know and maybe due to some similarities I have to keep that secret, just trying to broade my fields of knowledge,

In the long run I definitely want to be slim and functional and experience a high energy state of being based on deep and relaxing breathing,

But before totally turning into an old man I wanna have another angry just a little enhanced go like Wolverine.

i never did any chem test but do love natural adaptogenics, ashwaganda rodeol rosea and tried Long Jong in bulk that at least gave some and test pimples lol
Thinking about picking up Europes cheapest bulk turkesterone, I never had that but maybe as an aging natural it would help.

And I am 3 months of out of training again lol but still looking better than before last session.
Maybe I will try and find the energy
The thing with lataly with O.G Excelsior and things training can get a bit too intensicve and especially getting older my doms gets much worse as well,,, buy yeah gotta remember Wolverine! he regrew basically everything from bone and nerve after being near this serious blast.

I was just 20 km from Fukushima Nuclear headplant-
 
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Anybody finding anything uniqe suppllement wise with the focus similarities to Excelsior?

I cant take no rauwolfia dmha I guess back in the day sometimes a low dose of DMAA was tolerabe for me without theb ad cash,

But there must be many ew compounds waiting to get stirred up. Put some molecules in different chains and we can move from Craze to Detonate to Excelsior and where are we heading now?
 
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I used to to believe people having so strong expereinces on newer batches but it is because I have been using some o,g fairly reguralarly and if you do that weaker stuff gonna fee weaker.

Because of running of Excelsior and not chasing other dragos at the moment ny tolerance has had a decent reset and occasional red 5/24 is pretty goo but not so good I am keen on doing it often.

Excelsior talk is getting old is it just me or is another spice forming in physical world because quite many have imagined it in some mental realm already :unsure:🕺💃
 

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Predator's latest marketing emails include a note:

EXCELSIOR UPDATE
We hope to have more news on this shortly but at current rates of sale we expect it will go out of stock within a week or two and it may never come back. Customer service can offer no more information but as CEO I am unable to offer more guidance yet but hope to have some next month. For now, while we cannot cap the quantity sold I would be grateful if you limit your ordering to just 3 units.
 
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To be clear, this stuff contains amphetamines, correct? If so, why would you want this?
 
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Predator's latest marketing emails include a note:

EXCELSIOR UPDATE
We hope to have more news on this shortly but at current rates of sale we expect it will go out of stock within a week or two and it may never come back. Customer service can offer no more information but as CEO I am unable to offer more guidance yet but hope to have some next month. For now, while we cannot cap the quantity sold I would be grateful if you limit your ordering to just 3 units.
I saw the email with that note as well. I wonder if they're honestly not expecting to receive any new shipments of it, or if they're just trying to appeal to customers who opened the email hoping to see a Black Friday/Cyber Monday deal on Excelsior.
 
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A buddy gave me a sample, this a good one? lol
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Looks like one of the old tubs?
Which batch did he say it was from?
Old grainy ones might differ a little in effect as well.
Some of old were even stronger than the rest. Those old super tubs nothing comes close to and it’s somd out! Not buying anymore of those last red tubs good luck if you do.
And stay safe in dosing they might be really strong after all, there is just no gyarantee with this supp.
Well the deal is you just wont know until you try it. 👍
 
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Looks like one of the old tubs?
Which batch did he say it was from?
Old grainy ones might differ a little in effect as well.
Some of old were even stronger than the rest. Those old super tubs nothing comes close to and it’s somd out! Not buying anymore of those last red tubs good luck if you do.
And stay safe in dosing they might be really strong after all, there is just no gyarantee with this supp.
Well the deal is you just wont know until you try it. 👍
its 6/24
 

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man i found an old thermal spark lying around at my moms house from when i stayed there during covid....

**** was gold.

Literally best fat burner ever IMO
 
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man i found an old thermal spark lying around at my moms house from when i stayed there during covid....

**** was gold.

Literally best fat burner ever IMO
Unbeatable for fat-burning and cardio (according to the Mrs., who still has me scouring the corners of the supplement earth to find more in order to run a cut cycle 😂)
 

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I saw the email with that note as well. I wonder if they're honestly not expecting to receive any new shipments of it, or if they're just trying to appeal to customers who opened the email hoping to see a Black Friday/Cyber Monday deal on Excelsior.
Is your mom willing to share though?
it was a lone pill under the bed in the spare room....I felt like charlie bucket finding the golden ticket lol
 

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Unbeatable for fat-burning and cardio (according to the Mrs., who still has me scouring the corners of the supplement earth to find more in order to run a cut cycle 😂)
fastin by hi tech pharma is even better IMO for fat burning and cardio...not bad for mood either but not as good as thermal in that department
 

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does that have alpha yo?

Dark Labs Adrenaline damn near killed my designated Guinea pig supplement testing ass, never again…..😂
no man i love this **** actually im about to buy some more.

It has regular yohimbine but you cant feel it at ALL.

The phenylethamine HCL is def bound to something to make it last longer feels like an AMPhet analouge for sure
 
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does that have alpha yo?

Dark Labs Adrenaline damn near killed my designated Guinea pig supplement testing ass, never again…..😂
More or less any yohimbe rauwolfia etc... on low dose can get away with just some chills but I feel froze and then the higher the dose the closer cardiac arrest it gets...
different strokes for different folks
 
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Don´t do this at home kids!

Just dosed 2 full scoops of red 5/24 and a tiny touch of ronnie Coleman Oýeah Buddy for an additional approximately 100mg caffeine or so.

I also had a delicious bowl of my new batch of saurkraut spiced with grated ginger pepper and even some dried elderberries.
The tastiest I have ever made! Just to balance the gut damage of Excelsior lol.

Goal for this is experience is to get out of bed and just try to get some action after having been kind of whacked by a cold since last Monday. If I don´t get dancing 🕺kind of energised I have 3 Jimi Hendrix biographies to get into if I get reading energised.

My dumbell set and training bench have to gather some more dust below my bed until next Wolverine like training comeback but even Hugh Jackman in movie top shape is a pretty tough goal to work against although more humanely possible than trying to be like Thor Love and Thunder lol.

For me O.G Excelsior was the awesomest way to start intensive study days with lots of reading and writing although I don´t have much mandatory assignements right now, nor O.G Excelsior :cry:

Pre dosing mode was exhausted from cold but good news is Excelsior tolerance is low :)

Not expecting too much.

@zufir I know regular mortals should not do this but I remember reading about you 4 scoop dosing. Could be seriously dangerous with a strong tub but you having build a tolerance and new tubs weaker I do understand you but would warn anybody else against it.

Truth is I am kind of mourning Excelsior. This new tubs have a bit of something but I really can´t afford to stock up only to have to use these weaker tubs in higher doses.

Maybe something else will come out or maybe I manage to just Excelsior by mindpower alone :)

Not feeling that funny yet so better cut myself short and get going🕺
 
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Don´t do this at home kids!

Just dosed 2 full scoops of red 5/24 and a tiny touch of ronnie Coleman Oýeah Buddy for an additional approximately 100mg caffeine or so.

I also had a delicious bowl of my new batch of saurkraut spiced with grated ginger pepper and even some dried elderberries.
The tastiest I have ever made! Just to balance the gut damage of Excelsior lol.

Goal for this is experience is to get out of bed and just try to get some action after having been kind of whacked by a cold since last Monday. If I don´t get dancing 🕺kind of energised I have 3 Jimi Hendrix biographies to get into if I get reading energised.

My dumbell set and training bench have to gather some more dust below my bed until next Wolverine like training comeback but even Hugh Jackman in movie top shape is a pretty tough goal to work against although more humanely possible than trying to be like Thor Love and Thunder lol.

For me O.G Excelsior was the awesomest way to start intensive study days with lots of reading and writing although I don´t have much mandatory assignements right nor O.G Excelsior :cry:

Pre dosing mode was exhausted from cold but good news is Excelsior tolerance is low :)

Not expecting too much.

@zufir I know regular mortals should not do this but I remember reading about you 4 scoop dosing. Could be seriously dangerous with a strong tub but you having build a tolerance and new tubs weaker I do understand you but would warn anybody else against it.

Truth is I am kind of mourning Excelsior. This new tubs have a bit of something but I really can´t afford to stock up only to have to use these weaker tubs in higher doses.

Maybe something else will come out or maybe I manage to just Excelsior by mindpower alone :)

Not feeling that funny yet so better cut myself short and get going🕺
2 full scoops of my red 5/24 tickles my Excelsior receptors but even just above half scoop of my super 8/23 would´ve kinda been more energising... Kinda doubt even having 2more scoops would help but give it a wait.
Saurkraut was a great way to balance the sweetness of Excelsior but maybe the saurkraut absorbed the good stuff :unsure::ROFLMAO:
 
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2 scoops of Excelsior was quite decent without tolerance.

Scuse me if I am writing Excelsior reports without having worked out! :D

I did get some really good focused and eneded up reading a Jumi Hendrix biography his brother Leons for 3 hours without putting it down even for a minute. Not just Excelsior but it was also an interest of mine and an easy read language wise.

About 4 - 5 hours I did feel some uncomfortable rapid heart beat and mild crash but after the crash I still felt residual good focus. Dosed 10 am . I did get to sleep atnight but did wake up and this also disrupted my sleep but it was nothing like the O.G tubs that would have had me writing even stranger posts in Anabolic minds.

If I had a **** ton of extra cash I probably would stock up a bit but it sucks how it became weaker and more expensive.
When is the next magic supplement coming out? But maybe better keep it secret or it will become busted too quick , send me a dm though and I will write you some strange messages when the mania is on :)

I did never get any serious totally out of control mania on O.G but mild mania that I never had before besides from O.G and pharma a d h d meds O.G mania though had me enjoying it in contrast to pharma that makes me feel like crap.....

Excelsior chefs out there keep cooking and maybe you can tweak it just a little bit and release another one that magically won´t show up on screenings etc..

Peace and above and beyond people! :love:
 
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Have any of you guys tried smack pre workout??
I didn´t know it was supposed to be used as pre workout but this dude in the street sold me some powder called smack.

I didn´t recognize the seller but maybe it was that guy in FDN who had bought one tub and then sold samples in the street? :ROFLMAO:
 
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2 scoops of Excelsior was quite decent without tolerance.

Scuse me if I am writing Excelsior reports without having worked out! :D

I did get some really good focused and eneded up reading a Jumi Hendrix biography his brother Leons for 3 hours without putting it down even for a minute. Not just Excelsior but it was also an interest of mine and an easy read language wise.

About 4 - 5 hours I did feel some uncomfortable rapid heart beat and mild crash but after the crash I still felt residual good focus. Dosed 10 am . I did get to sleep atnight but did wake up and this also disrupted my sleep but it was nothing like the O.G tubs that would have had me writing even stranger posts in Anabolic minds.

If I had a **** ton of extra cash I probably would stock up a bit but it sucks how it became weaker and more expensive.
When is the next magic supplement coming out? But maybe better keep it secret or it will become busted too quick , send me a dm though and I will write you some strange messages when the mania is on :)

I did never get any serious totally out of control mania on O.G but mild mania that I never had before besides from O.G and pharma a d h d meds O.G mania though had me enjoying it in contrast to pharma that makes me feel like crap.....

Excelsior chefs out there keep cooking and maybe you can tweak it just a little bit and release another one that magically won´t show up on screenings etc..

Peace and above and beyond people! :love:
3 scoops with the new red tubs is the sweet spot imo... probably 2.5 if you've had a stim break honestly :)
 

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Has anyone revisited Phenta Plex recently? I remembered a lot of hype and lots of batch to batch variations. Curious how it’s doing now
 

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