Excelsior pre workout

[zufir]

Just got 2 tubs from ruesco. First tub was severely underwhelming. Not sure about second tub cause I think I’m going to sell it so don’t want to open it.

ima try 3 scoops from their tub. Let’s see where it leads me.

 

[SSJ4GOD]

We need a preworkout with cyclazodone. That **** bumps hard

 

[ELROCK]

We need a preworkout with cyclazodone. That **** bumps hard

I like nmc better.

 

[SSJ4GOD]

I like nmc better.

Both are good but nmc lasts longer for me so for preworkout probably would be a difficult to dose thing

 

[zufir]

3 scoops on 04/2024 red tub and it felt like I drank a rebull. Got a decent workout and could feel ''some'' tunnel vision focus but that's pretty much it. Very disappointed in it but I wouldn't say it's total junk...I'll probably use it every now and then for leg workouts

 

[tstrogo93]

We need a preworkout with cyclazodone. That **** bumps hard

Cyclazodone Powder (Unique Stimulant) - Boost Your Biology

Cyclazodone is a phenyl 4-oxazolidinone that differs from the parent pemoline by an N-cyclopropyl group. Compounds like cyclazodone of the 4-oxazolidinone class can be considered as 4-oxy derivatives of the 2-amino-5-aryloxazoline class including aminorex, fluminorex, and 4-methylaminorex...

www.ergogenic.health

 

[tstrogo93]

Cyclazodone Powder (Unique Stimulant) - Boost Your Biology

Cyclazodone is a phenyl 4-oxazolidinone that differs from the parent pemoline by an N-cyclopropyl group. Compounds like cyclazodone of the 4-oxazolidinone class can be considered as 4-oxy derivatives of the 2-amino-5-aryloxazoline class including aminorex, fluminorex, and 4-methylaminorex...

www.ergogenic.health

is it really strong?

 

[SSJ4GOD]

is it really strong?

I personally find it in a league above DMAA and DMHA. It’s pretty good

 

[tstrogo93]

I personally find it in a league above DMAA and DMHA. It’s pretty good

interesante ..

 

[Potbelly]

I had the chrome label. I had the very first batch that ever came out

And that was why I left such a dramatic review on the forum

In my 20s I def had some recreational drug use. And strip clubs.

The OG excelsior absolutely reminded me of mixing an energy drink with a small line of cocaine.

Or maybe even some bath salts. I immediately knew something else was in it when I was gnashing my teeth and twirling glow sticks in between sets at the gym ( that's an attempted joke btw

I had the chrome label. I had the very first batch that ever came out

And that was why I left such a dramatic review on the forum

In my 20s I def had some recreational drug use. And strip clubs.

The OG excelsior absolutely reminded me of mixing an energy drink with a small line of cocaine.

Or maybe even some bath salts. I immediately knew something else was in it when I was gnashing my teeth and twirling glow sticks in between sets at the gym ( that's an attempted joke btw

 

[tstrogo93]

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@WesleyInman any chance of a westlyinman formulated Excelsiorish pre workout in the future??

 

[tstrogo93]

3 scoops on 04/2024 red tub and it felt like I drank a rebull. Got a decent workout and could feel ''some'' tunnel vision focus but that's pretty much it. Very disappointed in it but I wouldn't say it's total junk...I'll probably use it every now and then for leg workouts

3 scoops!?!?!? damn it really changed anything more than 1.5 of 8/23 and im going to the ER

 

[zufir]

3 scoops!?!?!? damn it really changed anything more than 1.5 of 8/23 and im going to the ER

100% would die of a heart attack on 3 scoops of 8/23 lool

 

[ELROCK]

Both are good but nmc lasts longer for me so for preworkout probably would be a difficult to dose thing

True. The risk for liver damage concerns me with that one. I use it 1x per month at a sublingual 25 mg dose.

What about you? What doses and frequency do you use it?

 

[SSJ4GOD]

True. The risk for liver damage concerns me with that one. I use it 1x per month at 25 mg.

What about you? What doses and frequency do you use it?

I have used it a few times a week (maybe 4 max at my height of usage) 10 mgs each time. Even at 10mgs it beats the Socks off most stims

 

[ELROCK]

I have used it a few times a week (maybe 4 max at my height of usage) 10 mgs each time. Even at 10mgs it beats the Socks off most stims

Oh I will try it at 10 mg next time to see if I can get away with a lower dose like that.

 

[WesleyInman]

@WesleyInman any chance of a westlyinman formulated Excelsiorish pre workout in the future??

I wish

I would except the FDA came after every single product I had in the past. I will keep my eyes peeled for anything else coming remotely close.

Fingers crossed someone comes out with one LOL.

 

[tstrogo93]

I wish

I would except the FDA came after every single product I had in the past. I will keep my eyes peeled for anything else coming remotely close.

Fingers crossed someone comes out with one LOL.

Fuqin FDA

 

[SSJ4GOD]

I wish

I would except the FDA came after every single product I had in the past. I will keep my eyes peeled for anything else coming remotely close.

Fingers crossed someone comes out with one LOL.

 

[muscleman]

is it really strong?

I have also used cyclazodone for mental demanding tasks. I was pretty blown away by the awesome longlasting focus, to me surele better than DMAA and DMHA but I don´tlike neither of those. In my opinion it was better than prescribed ADHD meds as well. Not same euphorias as O.G Excelsior.

However within my first or second use I started to feel a different kind of toxic feeling almost like a mild little stab in my back.
My last use I was reckless and topped up my measured dose with the edge of my pliers. Only got a little mania, nothing like the poetry creating mania of enough O.G Excelsior. I also did have a toxic feeling all the way to my gut and I actually tossed my whole stash....
I have regretted that a few times because it has become harder to find. But anyhow I am quite happy about my gut feeling throwing it away. For those who can be very carefully and weigh it out in small doses it could be a great stimulant at times.
I do trust my gut feeling that cyclazodone is more physically toxic than almost any other stimulant I have tried in a PWO so I won´t be chasing it again.

But yeah if we want to find anything that might get near O.G Excelsior we have to expand our views and lets not hope we get too severely poisoned in the process.

Even high up above and beyond stay safe!

 

[tstrogo93]

I have also used cyclazodone for mental demanding tasks. I was pretty blown away by the awesome longlasting focus, to me surele better than DMAA and DMHA but I don´tlike neither of those. In my opinion it was better than prescribed ADHD meds as well. Not same euphorias as O.G Excelsior.

However within my first or second use I started to feel a different kind of toxic feeling almost like a mild little stab in my back.
My last use I was reckless and topped up my measured dose with the edge of my pliers. Only got a little mania, nothing like the poetry creating mania of enough O.G Excelsior. I also did have a toxic feeling all the way to my gut and I actually tossed my whole stash....
I have regretted that a few times because it has become harder to find. But anyhow I am quite happy about my gut feeling throwing it away. For those who can be very carefully and weigh it out in small doses it could be a great stimulant at times.
I do trust my gut feeling that cyclazodone is more physically toxic than almost any other stimulant I have tried in a PWO so I won´t be chasing it again.

But yeah if we want to find anything that might get near O.G Excelsior we have to expand our views and lets not hope we get too severely poisoned in the process.

Even high up above and beyond stay safe!

ya lets be real we need that euphoria as well

 

[WesleyInman]

I've been using Contraband by Iron Forged Nutrition. Then I also take 2 inhalations of Amino Asylums nasal spray noopept.

I have to say it's a nice combo. Doesn't compare to Excelsior but it's solid.

Also I have phenta plex and half a scoop of that with the noopept works well too. Anyone like Phenta Plex?

I do have one secret PWO for any vets that wanna PM me. No newbies.

 

[SSJ4GOD]

I've been using Contraband by Iron Forged Nutrition. Then I also take 2 inhalations of Amino Asylums nasal spray noopept.

I have to say it's a nice combo. Doesn't compare to Excelsior but it's solid.

Also I have phenta plex and half a scoop of that with the noopept works well too. Anyone like Phenta Plex?

I do have one secret PWO for any vets that wanna PM me. No newbies.

If only I had my old account I would definitely be a vet lol .

 

[Carolina Kid]

Anybody try Dark Labs Adrenaline?

Thoughts and/or experiences?

 

[tstrogo93]

Anybody try Dark Labs Adrenaline?

Thoughts and/or experiences?

way too much fight or flight for me...alot of alpha YO cold sweats ect

 

[muscleman]

way too much fight or flight for me...alot of alpha YO cold sweats ect

I have totally quit all yohimbe and even small amounts of DMHA or walnuts bark extrakt as they call it I rather be without.... I have actually gone quite long without using any of my last remaining O.G.
Not attached to it at all but occasionally I have been using my red 5/24 but boosted it with a bunch of caffeine and something antidepressant to go with and still less sleep meds is needed compared to O.G , well too much O.G and the weak meds I have barely would work.

Newbies stay with caffeine , don´t be like muscleman about to change his name to O.G fried brain lol

Muscleman is even too tired to train muscles now when O.G supply is running out.
Not sure what I am gonna change my name too once all my gains have withered and my dumbbells have become all covered with spider web lol

 

[muscleman]

ya lets be real we need that euphoria as well

I started out using O.G for functionality and the euphoria as well as teeth grinding were side effects lol.
And the minor mania and the birth of Musclemans "Excerpts from a temporary stimjunkies diary lol

After having seriously cut consumption, the 5/24 has activity for sure but not in the league of O.G and if you take it even a couple of days after O.G it won´t be felt so much but now I can understand how some people report positively on newer tubs. The newer tubs though quickly diminishes in effect with repeated use unlike O.G that could be used for quite some time with continuously strong effect.

 

[muscleman]

Thinking about O.G...

Who remembers Sinead O´Connors Nothing compares to you?

It must have been about Excelsior wasn´t it? :

" It's been seven hours and 15 days
Since you took your love away
I go out every night and sleep all day
Since you took your love away"

 

[muscleman]

Or is it as Pet Shop Boys sings? (It´s a sin)

 

[Wobmarvel]

I used to use the OG at work at half a scoop every lunch break to get me amped up for the rest of the day. A guy at my work had never used a preworkout before and asked if he could try it. I was like "sure". Cos he had only ever used protein powders before he thought the scoop was so tiny he took two scoops. Guy thought he was actually gonna die and has not touched a pre workout since... I've possibly already told this story

 

[muscleman]

One of the signs of delirium caused by excess consumption of Imperial Nutritions pre madness supplement Excelsior is the tendency of getting stuck on old 80s song and involuntarily hearing them on repeat in one´s mind.

If this happens immediately seek help on nearest online anabolic forum!

"You take my love
You want my soul
I would be crazy to share your life
Why can't you see what I am?
Sharpen your senses and turn the knife
Hurt me and you'll understand

I'll never be Maria Magdalena
(I´m a creature of the night)
Maria Magdalena
(I´m a victim of the fight)
(I need love)
Promise me delight
(I need love)"

 

[muscleman]

I used to use the OG at work at half a scoop every lunch break to get me amped up for the rest of the day. A guy at my work had never used a preworkout before and asked if he could try it. I was like "sure". Cos he had only ever used protein powders before he thought the scoop was so tiny he took two scoops. Guy thought he was actually gonna die and has not touched a pre workout since... I've possibly already told this story

Me too, first time one and a half scoops like FDN lol but I got sick and it took me like 2 weeks until I tried it again at lower dose and started enjoying it

 

[muscleman]

I used to use the OG at work at half a scoop every lunch break to get me amped up for the rest of the day. A guy at my work had never used a preworkout before and asked if he could try it. I was like "sure". Cos he had only ever used protein powders before he thought the scoop was so tiny he took two scoops. Guy thought he was actually gonna die and has not touched a pre workout since... I've possibly already told this story

The only times I really can handle more than scoop is right before the dancefloor.
The other kids in the festivals are like wtf is that dude drinking in a dodgy tub like that...

but when the night is gone and the sun up again who is still dancing in a barefeet trance if not muscleman!

 

[muscleman]

I like nmc better.

never tried nmc but for me besides Excelsior I don´t like long lasting stims because I can´t sleep. With Excelsior it´s a price worth paying sometimes though lol
You gotta be really careful dosing something like cycla or nmc or any stim if you have the straight powder, thats the safe thing about Excelsior it being mixed with fruit punch making me people puke before lethal overdoses

 

[muscleman]

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I totally recognise those side effects of eyes shut wide open, jaw clenching and freaky dance.

To be honest though I do have one course of jazz disco dance at a ballet studio under my belt.
When Maria Magdalena play at the youth disco in 1987 I at age twelve very barely had the guts to ask that cute girl to dance .
It was honestly nearly gutwrenching so a couple of years later I and some other nerdy insecure teens took a course.
Then it is years of discos or do they call them nightclubs these days? Clubs and festivals.

I used to train in gyms until one day when I had Nutrex Hemo Rage Black Ultra with 1,3 dimeth in 2011 and after watching Dexter Jacksons documentary Unbreakable there being a rap tune in there and I can´t exactly remember the lyrics and was it Dexter himself who rapped: Unbreakable... Like Dexter Jackson Unbreakable...

I was so laser focus and more shotgun aggressive then any Excelsior has ever made me that I even used a couple of pounds dumbbell while doing push ups when one of the staff at the Japanese gym came up to me and told me to quit. He was nervous and I don´t know if he worried about some kind of insurance issue for either the wooden floor or the up and coming Muscleman training enraged and feeling like Dexter Jackson, Unbreakable!

That and that 70 year old or so but running like a maniac on the treadmill generously sharing his sweatdrops like golden showers in the air.....

That had me thinking and actually getting my own simple homegym with a latpul tri push row etc cable bench and adjustable dumbbell set. Back then my way of trancersize dancing in my own gym wasn´t realised yet and I used what I now consider to be a boring option of aerobike.
These days though. Nothing like dance aero and warm up as well , really getting blood flowing stretching every single joint in the body and sometimes when the Hemo Rage was too strong even trancersize dance in between sets

Funny side note although everybody already knows. Hemo Rage is very similar to Hemorraghe that according to dictionary.com as a noun can mean either

1. a profuse discharge of blood, as from a ruptured blood vessel; bleeding.
2. the loss of assets, especially in large amounts.
3. any widespread or uncontrolled loss or diffusion.

 

[muscleman]

When listening to Jimi Hendrix Power of Soul I surrender to the Excelsior experience

"Come on back to earth my friend
Come on back up with me
We've all been up through the night time baby
Now let's read the rays of reality"

"With the power of soul anything is possible!"

 

[KvanH]

When you see muscleman back /
You know he's on that - OG /
He's going up and beyond /
And perhaps to prison - OG /

He's so high /
He's so high /
He's so high /
OG

Euphoric OG

 

[tstrogo93]

When you see muscleman back /
You know he's on that - OG /
He's going up and beyond /
And perhaps to prison - OG /

He's so high /
He's so high /
He's so high /
OG

Euphoric OG

i always thouight this was clapton.. was it just a cover of this?

 

[KvanH]

i always thouight this was clapton.. was it just a cover of this?

Yes, a cover. Clapton's live version at the Royal Albert Hall in London in 2015 is a good version though. It's on YT.

 

[Carolina Kid]

@muscleman cracked open that OG thinking it was his 5/24, and double scooped it…..now still traveling through the @muscleman multiverse of Madness

Forget I asked about Dark Labs Adrenaline, tried one cap today and damn near died…..think I just stopped cold sweating 7hrs later, must be that Alpha Yo, never again…..ripper would probably kill me lol

I need Thermal Spark to come back so I can stop Guinea pigging myself testing replacements for the Mrs., before I wind up like Stephen Hawking

 

[muscleman]

@muscleman cracked open that OG thinking it was his 5/24, and double scooped it…..now still traveling through the @muscleman multiverse of Madness

Forget I asked about Dark Labs Adrenaline, tried one cap today and damn near died…..think I just stopped cold sweating 7hrs later, must be that Alpha Yo, never again…..ripper would probably kill me lol

I need Thermal Spark to come back so I can stop Guinea pigging myself testing replacements for the Mrs., before I wind up like Stephen Hawking

Dr Strange Multiverse was the weirdest Marvel movie ever lol.
Due to danger of others trying to replicate the experience I won’t be telling my combo but on clean receptors one scoop of 5/24 with some amino caffeine herb combo, no yohimbe nor dmha etc whatsoever but it gave the experience.
Stupidly trying 5/24 again the very next day it gives a pretty bad crash. something similar to O.G but less push and very quick toletance build up.
That Hendrix above is still in my mind one of the grooviest ever created

 

[N2ofusion]

Due to danger of others trying to replicate the experience I won’t be telling my combo but on clean receptors one scoop of 5/24 with some amino caffeine herb combo, no yohimbe nor dmha etc whatsoever but it gave the experience

Don’t want to give a hint?

 

[zufir]

Dr Strange Multiverse was the weirdest Marvel movie ever lol.
Due to danger of others trying to replicate the experience I won’t be telling my combo but on clean receptors one scoop of 5/24 with some amino caffeine herb combo, no yohimbe nor dmha etc whatsoever but it gave the experience.
Stupidly trying 5/24 again the very next day it gives a pretty bad crash. something similar to O.G but less push and very quick toletance build up.
That Hendrix above is still in my mind one of the grooviest ever created

DM me your combo sir

 

[muscleman]

DM me your combo sir

The thing is we all are unique biomedical systems reacting differently.
I am afraid for people having two scooped O.G not much else gonna make those receptors happy unless enough time passes that give opportunity for recovery.

Since you been around here sir @zufir I am considering a dm but what really made the 5/24 work a bit was cutting out O.G.
I only had O.G like 3 times lover the last month barely going over half scoop and I haven´t used any Dark Labs DMHA of other hard stims lately.
I only had one scoop of 5/24 and basically couple of hundred milligrams caffeine in one scoop Head Gear that also has tyrosine taurine etc and I take NAC and I had half a scoop Nutrex outlift with caffeine and theobromine and I popped some St Johns wort a herbal kind of antidepressant and kind of SSRI, mild to me but could be risky for others with different substances in their systems.
Evening time I had some EU regulated indoor grown industrial hemp flower power of the strain Carmagnola, an amazing anti inflammatory and normally I don´t enjoy hemp too much but went really well to finish the evening with Jimi Hendrix lol.
I know these ingredients and how I react but could be risky if someone suddenly tried them all at once.

And if having used O.G regurarly nothing but staying off it for some time is gonna make other lesser stims hit. And I honestly very seldom went over one scoop with O.G I might have a few times I wrote some of my longest posts here though but generally less is actually more and less side effects and come down

 

[muscleman]

5/24 on its own and even in combos tend to make yawn and increasing the dose just makes sides worse but as I wrote if on fresh receptors a scoop of 5/24 and extra caffeine works pretty good for me, still not stocking up or buying any more new tubs

 

[muscleman]

Stims on empty stomach and then a great smoothie I have been having for brunch when I break my intermittent fasting is bananas dates and a tablespoon or two of raw organic cocoa powder.
It has some noce natural pea and theobromime and heartwarming anti depressant effect
Overall it has been a hassle and a few trial and errors to try and use 5/24 for nice experiences lol

 

[muscleman]

A word of warning; for me taking PWOs on emoty stomach
Can pissibly rresult in creative modernistic toilet art within the toilet seat sometime after consumption, not necessarily immediately but I guess this is a well known phenomena like that
Gaspari Superdump

 

[excelsiors]

So it's back in stock on ruesco?

regardless I still have two good tubs but after not trying it for months and coming back to it because of a new big gym in the city; I now regret not buying more.

I ended up spraining my wrist doing a 4 hour ego lifting workout blasted out of my mind on a scoop of excelsior

this stuff is godlike wonder if any underground pwo will come out with some designer or research chemicals in them, because it's no doubt that there is some sort of 'upper' in this and there better be more pwos with 'uppers' in them in the future because this is an untapped market for people to come out with the new latest underground pwo and dip when the heat is on them, epecially with the profit they're probably turning over selling shady supplements as opposed to regulated stuff

 

[muscleman]

I used to use the OG at work at half a scoop every lunch break to get me amped up for the rest of the day. A guy at my work had never used a preworkout before and asked if he could try it. I was like "sure". Cos he had only ever used protein powders before he thought the scoop was so tiny he took two scoops. Guy thought he was actually gonna die and has not touched a pre workout since... I've possibly already told this story

I was using it to get through three parallell University scoops at first which was so stressful I didn´t really enjoy those times ,
If it only would have been Golden Gate park in San Fransisco 1967! But I read they had even more groovy supplemets floating around in that park...

but I did get through all of my studies, had about 20 different course books all over my desk.
Some days I biked 15kms to and back from a forest lake and got back cooked dinner and I remember one morning at 0430 my 24 page document about the Film art of Ingmar Bergman was completed. I don´really love all that anguish in Bergmans movies but needed cultural credits, I wish there had been Jimi Hendrig peotry and guitar art instead.
I Did read Astrid Lindgrens authorship and wrote papers on Pippi Longstocking and Ronja the robbers daughter

Jimi Hendrix Power to love was about using Excelsior too often "

"Playing too much with one toy tends to lead
into the foggy.
It's so groovy to float around, sometimes even
a jellyfish will agree to that.
I said flotation is groovy and easy,
even a jellyfish will agree to that.
Yeah, but old jelly's been floatin' so long
and so slack, lord, ain't no kinda bone in his jelly back.
Floatin' ev'ry day and ev'ry night is a risk, sometimes
the wind ain't right!"

With the power of soul anything is possible.
Anything you wanna do

 

[tstrogo93]

@muscleman cracked open that OG thinking it was his 5/24, and double scooped it…..now still traveling through the @muscleman multiverse of Madness

Forget I asked about Dark Labs Adrenaline, tried one cap today and damn near died…..think I just stopped cold sweating 7hrs later, must be that Alpha Yo, never again…..ripper would probably kill me lol

I need Thermal Spark to come back so I can stop Guinea pigging myself testing replacements for the Mrs., before I wind up like Stephen Hawking

bro i told you that **** sucks....all these stims just blast alpha yo and caffine and its such an uncomfortable exp.

The funny thing is the stims that are illegal are actually physically safter than the ones that they blast in these high stim "legal: formulas.