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Hard to choose between the two..
Which one should I take?
Which one should I take?
That's great to hear that you're having such great success with it. I'm getting ready to start at least a 16 week run of it myself. I had meant to already start but I had a pending eye procedure so I wanted to get that out of the way first.I have never use androgin, but I have originally bought 3 bottles of AE, I am in the middle of my second bottle and I ordered another 3 bottles to increase my run with it. I can comment on the mass gain since I am cutting right now, but for endurance, workload capacity, this blow cordyceps, and beta alanine.
yea I didnt respond too well to androgin, I did 3 weeks and it gave me sme sides and just slight pumps during workouts; really werent any strength gains. Anabolic Effect I've taken and didn't see much compared to Vector which is the same with except AE has more ingredients. Im keen to see the new anabolic from SNS though.I've used both. Would definitely recommend Anabolic Effect. Have run it several times and will be running it again in the future. Will not be repurchasing Androgin. Everyone responds differently, so just my 2 cents.
Forgot to say that he shilajit also boost my mood and concentration, added bonus here.I have never use androgin, but I have originally bought 3 bottles of AE, I am in the middle of my second bottle and I ordered another 3 bottles to increase my run with it. I can comment on the mass gain since I am cutting right now, but for endurance, workload capacity, this blow cordyceps, and beta alanine.
You sure it’s not the dermacrine?I have tried both Anabolic Effect and Androgin They are both great products I had amazing gains with both. I took Androgin stacked with Dermacrine for two solid months I gained 10 lbs not sure if it's 100% muscle but I feel very strong and my coworkers have been commenting that I look more muscular
I mean it aint that hard to gain 10lbs in 2 months; just gotta eat more......You sure it’s not the dermacrine?
I have tried both Anabolic Effect and Androgin They are both great products I had amazing gains with both. I took Androgin stacked with Dermacrine for two solid months I gained 10 lbs not sure if it's 100% muscle but I feel very strong and my coworkers have been commenting that I look more muscular
Yeah, but 100% muscle.. That would be a good result with any gear in 2 months..I mean it aint that hard to gain 10lbs in 2 months; just gotta eat more......
Same as me. AE was good, Vector was outstanding, dont know why because AE has the same ingredients and more...yea I didnt respond too well to androgin, I did 3 weeks and it gave me sme sides and just slight pumps during workouts; really werent any strength gains. Anabolic Effect I've taken and didn't see much compared to Vector which is the same with except AE has more ingredients. Im keen to see the new anabolic from SNS though.
curious on the sides ? like what you usually get from sarms/anabolicyea I didnt respond too well to androgin, I did 3 weeks and it gave me sme sides and just slight pumps during workouts; really werent any strength gains. Anabolic Effect I've taken and didn't see much compared to Vector which is the same with except AE has more ingredients. Im keen to see the new anabolic from SNS though.
Yeah, that is odd in regards to the different reaction to Vector and AE as the main ingridients are the same (+ AE having a few more and double the amount in Korean mistletoe). I thought my different response to them was placebo or just due to different timing, but I guess not. I felt like I got more energy and increased swetting from Vector and more strenght and performance enhancement from AE.curious on the sides ? like what you usually get from sarms/anabolic
i ran vector and really enjoyed it but felt AE gave what vector offered plus more .. but first time i took vector in around 4-5weeks i remember my stamina/endurance was amazing and AE i felt that kicked in earlier ..both great products, we all just react differently to compounds i guess
Not a sarm or anabolic side. Just lethargy and my heart would get racey.curious on the sides ? like what you usually get from sarms/anabolic
i ran vector and really enjoyed it but felt AE gave what vector offered plus more .. but first time i took vector in around 4-5weeks i remember my stamina/endurance was amazing and AE i felt that kicked in earlier ..both great products, we all just react differently to compounds i guess
Statement simply isnt true but to each their ownDespite what BLR says I’d say Androgin hasn’t worked very well for people who’ve used it. Somehow it’s marketed as the best natural anabolic of 2021, go figure
People having to have to dose 2.5x to feel its working. I guess we will see if its suppressive or not. People noting gyno is concerning obv some kind of estrogen receptor action. May very well not suppress if it mimics serm action. Appears most people note deeperI like androgin so far!
Are the ingredients the same though? Answer is in what's extracted.Yeah, that is odd in regards to the different reaction to Vector and AE as the main ingridients are the same (+ AE having a few more and double the amount in Korean mistletoe). I thought my different response to them was placebo or just due to different timing, but I guess not. I felt like I got more energy and increased swetting from Vector and more strenght and performance enhancement from AE.
Only a few people electively decided to raise the dose. If you go look at the Androgin thread there are people taking the normal dose, and enjoying their run.People having to have to dose 2.5x to feel its working. I guess we will see if its suppressive or not. People noting gyno is concerning obv some kind of estrogen receptor action. May very well not suppress if it mimics serm action. Appears most people note deeper
Sleep /REM. Better pumps. I had better pumps on salt, carbs n beet root. Also it is irrelevant of term “natural”. Most of these “natty” substances are all made in a lab. Outside of tested competitive circles technicality of being natty is just circle jerk of “proud natties”. There aint nothing natty about a over extracted lab compound that binds to
Androgen receptors. After all most AAS peoduction starts with cholesterol or progesterone.. i guess methandrostenolone is natty too.. mind you oxandrolone was given to kids in the past..
Yeah, that is odd in regards to the different reaction to Vector and AE as the main ingridients are the same (+ AE having a few more and double the amount in Korean mistletoe). I thought my different response to them was placebo or just due to different timing, but I guess not. I felt like I got more energy and increased swetting from Vector and more strenght and performance enhancement from AE.
I absolutely agree that the answer is in what's extracted.Are the ingredients the same though? Answer is in what's extracted.
I wasn't attacking your brand by the way. But it seems like in this thread BLR products are being thrown under the bus. I was saying the two products are not the same. That's all.I absolutely agree that the answer is in what's extracted.
I also agree with what you're implying with your question 'Are the ingredients the same though?' in that no, the ingredients aren't the same in Vector and Anabolic Effect. I think when Anabolic Effect was first released, some people were so quick to want to make it a company vs company thing that they didn't really think about it in the sense that in all major categories in this industry, there is ingredient overlap in products. Yes, they share three common ingredients but the dosage is different on one of them (Korean Mistletoe is 2,000 mg. in Anabolic Effect) and then Anabolic Effect also adds 4 other clinically researched branded ingredients on top of those.
And for the three ingredients that they do both contain, BLR doesn't know what ours is extracted for and we don't know what BLR's is extracted for; which is the same answer as pretty much any comparison between herbal ingredients that aren't branded or don't have their specific constituent profiles listed.
The intended results of Anabolic Effect are for lean muscle, strength, endurance, and performance so him saying that he got more energy and sweating from Vector and more strength and performance enhancement from Anabolic Effect lines right up with the intended results of Anabolic Effect; whereas the increased energy and sweating he said he got with Vector is not what Anabolic Effect is designed to do.
As for the thread in general, I've stayed clear of addressing any comparisons between Androgin and Anabolic Effect as well as any between Vector and Anabolic Effect. I've replied I think a couple of times telling people I was glad that they liked AE and got good results from it, but that's it; as I generally never speak badly about other companies products.
And I hope that after the pm conversation I had with Brundel a couple of months ago (and I sincerely mean that it was polite and professional, I didn't want anyone to read that and think it was negative in any way), I hope that he and I are both still on the same page that there's plenty of room in the market for both companies and that both of us, and our reps are to focus on our own products without saying anything negative towards the others.
Despite what BLR says orrrr is it actually people who purchased Androgin that are leaving the positive reviews? Ill go with the latter considering BLR has an immense thread going with a lot of positive experiences, reviews and repurchases. To cap it off, BLR hasn’t given out or even needed to give out free bottles for the great reviews.Despite what BLR says I’d say Androgin hasn’t worked very well for people who’ve used it. Somehow it’s marketed as the best natural anabolic of 2021, go figure
I understand. And I do really appreciate you posting to clarify that as well.I wasn't attacking your brand by the way. But it seems like in this thread BLR products are being thrown under the bus. I was saying the two products are not the same. That's all.
I realize you're replying directly to a forum member with your first part. But his post you quoted said nothing about free bottles; so if the part about free bottles is directed at Anabolic Effect, I want to clarify that we don't give out free bottles for reviews.Despite what BLR says orrrr is it actually people who purchased Androgin that are leaving the positive reviews? Ill go with the latter considering BLR has an immense thread going with a lot of positive experiences, reviews and repurchases. To cap it off, BLR hasn’t given out or even needed to give out free bottles for the great reviews.
I'm really curious to see how well Anabolic Effect will work for you on the low dose PED's. That's one of the things that kind of excites me is to see how well it will work for someone that is on other things. Especially with your experience and how meticulous you are with your diet and training.Since I very limited in terms of what I can do physically and have some health concerns, I am unwilling to increase steroid doses or incorporate oral AAS. Nonetheless, I still want to maximize my physique so natural anabolics have come to the forefront of my interest. That's why I've been popping in and out of the natural supplement threads a lot more lately haha. Just based on my understanding of the ingredients, research backing, dosages, and cost of materials, I feel like Anabolic Effect will be my go to in this effort. Yes, I am on a "low" dose of PEDs (to be forthright and candid) but after reading up on AE I think it can still have an addictive performance and physique enhancement that is noticeable without any detriment to my health. I'm just price shopping right now for the best deal. Seems like DPS has the best price after coupon code but the shipping time is a bit lengthy. I want my gains right meow!!!
Thanks! That is the one good thing about my situation. It has made me better in all other facets of the lifestyle as I have to make the absolute most with what I have so I'm hoping (and confident) that this might give me a slight edge. And honestly, it's kind of fun to crack into the natty supps again. It brings me back to the good old days when things were simpler, exciting, and hopeful for progress. Nostalgic even lolI'm really curious to see how well Anabolic Effect will work for you on the low dose PED's. That's one of the things that kind of excites me is to see how well it will work for someone that is on other things. Especially with your experience and how meticulous you are with your diet and training.
Have you incorporated injectable L Carnitine yet? If not, recommend it, it can enhance your TRT dose of testosterone via increasing androgen receptor density.Thanks! That is the one good thing about my situation. It has made me better in all other facets of the lifestyle as I have to make the absolute most with what I have so I'm hoping (and confident) that this might give me a slight edge. And honestly, it's kind of fun to crack into the natty supps again. It brings me back to the good old days when things were simpler, exciting, and hopeful for progress. Nostalgic even lol
I want to offer some encouragement on something; and I mean this absolutely sincerely.I am a fan of facts.
There are some stating that nobody likes Androgin. Lets look at the real statistics vs BS negative statements.
Presently Androgin is producing 71% of BLR total sales. That means its selling 300% of our entire line combined presently. And rising at a rate or 371%.
66% of these sales are coming from people who have bought the product and returned to buy more.
So........regardless of what some people here may say. Seems to be working just fine for THOUSANDS of other people.
Our issue isnt it not working, its keeping it in stock.
I've considered it but have heard mixed reviews about it. Some saying it is beneficial, while others saying it is negligible. Tbh I likely won't pursue it just for the fact that I am quite tired of pinning myself and want to minimize the amount of injections. Appreciate the input! Just out of curiosity have you tried it?Have you incorporated injectable L Carnitine yet? If not, recommend it, it can enhance your TRT dose of testosterone via increasing androgen receptor density.
Using it now, and it doesn't make a PED style difference, but, I can tell a difference between being on it, and when I wasn't. Can eat more carbs, and have less fat accumulation. You could do the oral LCLT route, and take 4 to 6g a day with your highest carb meal, and you can get similar benefits that way. I understand pinning fatigue.I've considered it but have heard mixed reviews about it. Some saying it is beneficial, while others saying it is negligible. Tbh I likely won't pursue it just for the fact that I am quite tired of pinning myself and want to minimize the amount of injections. Appreciate the input! Just out of curiosity have you tried it?
Hey man the only reason I mentioned free bottles was simply because some people would say the reviews BLR was getting on Androgin were due to giving out free bottles had that been the case but we have given out zero free bottles so I wanted to nip that in the butt before someone tried to reply with that statement.I realize you're replying directly to a forum member with your first part. But his post you quoted said nothing about free bottles; so if the part about free bottles is directed at Anabolic Effect, I want to clarify that we don't give out free bottles for reviews.
In its product history, I only remember giving out Anabolic Effect free one time for someone to log and that was right when it first came out. A very well-known forum member that is very well respected for his unbiased logs and reviews asked us for some to do a log on and he clearly stated in his log that he asked us for it and that we gave it to him.
There are a lot of great logs and reviews on it; and one of the best ones was done by someone from a country that I really do wish I could figure out how to ship things to and get through their customs haha.
Thank you for clarifying. That's why I was confused because I've never seen you bash us, or any other company that I can remember. And in the past when there were a couple of other BLR reps that did it regularly, I never saw you do it or get involved in it and I always appreciated that. I hope that those days are behind all of us nowHey man the only reason I mentioned free bottles was simply because some people would say the reviews BLR was getting on Androgin were due to giving out free bottles had that been the case but we have given out zero free bottles so I wanted to nip that in the butt before someone tried to reply with that statement.
Literally had nothing to do with AE and to be completely honest with you, I had zero clue if yall ever gave out free bottles or not.
I don’t bash other companies products as it’s not my style and was only replying based on what I know with regards to BLR product.
I want to clarify that Booneman77 said the first part of that but he did NOT say the second part of that. Maybe you looked at the posts wrong, or maybe you wrote it wrong, but the way you wrote it, it appears that you're saying he made both statements and that isn't the case. And I don't think he meant that there wasn't feedback in your product thread; I think what he meant was that there haven't been many log type reviews outside of the thread yet; which makes sense given that its a newer product. So if he wasn't following the product thread, as he probably shouldn't be since he's a rep, then he wouldn't have seen the ones in there.Part of it is people posting things that are untrue.
For example boonman77- It's really gonna be impossible to tell since one is completely new and will have zero feedback or reviews.
and then -Despite what BLR says I’d say Androgin hasn’t worked very well for people who’ve used it.
All I’m saying is to give people the false hope that it’s the best natural anabolic is a little premature. Yes, there’s positive feedback but there is not one log where someone has even completed a full run of this. Maybe it will be great and honestly I hope it is because it would be great to have more solid products on the market. I’m just having a hard time buying into the hype. I’m only one person so at the end of the day it doesn’t even matter. Hopefully, in the coming months there will be some respected members who aren’t affiliated logging Androgin and it will prove to be “the best” but I’m sorry the owner of the company throwing on 26lb isn’t really making me a believer. Again, I hope it’s awesome but this is my opinion just like you have yours.Despite what BLR says orrrr is it actually people who purchased Androgin that are leaving the positive reviews? Ill go with the latter considering BLR has an immense thread going with a lot of positive experiences, reviews and repurchases. To cap it off, BLR hasn’t given out or even needed to give out free bottles for the great reviews.
Keep in mind though that it is a companies job to sell their products. Every company does that on here, you see it all over amazon, all over supp store pages “Strongest test booster on the market!!”, “Best absorbing magnesium supplement ever made!” etc etc. You will never see a successful company say “Hey we have this product, it could be good, it might suck idk. We poured a ton of R&D time into it but you know maybe try it maybe dont.” No that’s not how selling products works.All I’m saying is to give people the false hope that it’s the best natural anabolic is a little premature. Yes, there’s positive feedback but there is not one log where someone has even completed a full run of this. Maybe it will be great and honestly I hope it is because it would be great to have more solid products on the market. I’m just having a hard time buying into the hype. I’m only one person so at the end of the day it doesn’t even matter. Hopefully, in the coming months there will be some respected members who aren’t affiliated logging Androgin and it will prove to be “the best” but I’m sorry the owner of the company throwing on 26lb isn’t really making me a believer. Again, I hope it’s awesome but this is my opinion just like you have yours.
I get that. I understand the business side of it too. I’m just ready to see the real world results. Best of luck to yous. Hell maybe down the line I’ll try it for myself.Keep in mind though that it is a companies job to sell their products. Every company does that on here, you see it all over amazon, all over supp store pages “Strongest test booster on the market!!”, “Best absorbing magnesium supplement ever made!” etc etc. You will never see a successful company say “Hey we have this product, it could be good, it might suck idk. We poured a ton of R&D time into it but you know maybe try it maybe dont.” No that’s not how selling products works.
Anytime you have a successful company it is because they have marketed and advertised well and presented their products in a way that appeals to the consumer.
Now like you said, everyone has their opinions and some people will buy products while others dont. Brundel was transparent that he took Androgin coming back from a layoff from the gym and being sick and where he had previously been before. Is every person going to be in the same situation and put on that much weight? No of course not but he would be doing a huge disservice to himself and his company if he didn’t make known the success he has had.
I think people on here seem to forget these companies are in the business to sell products, not put out a bland vanilla plain marketing scheme and praying to a higher power that it sells. If you want to see over the top marketing which blows any other company on here away, look up the olds USP Labs marketing. Where they market mucuna pruriens as the second coming of swoleness. THAT was over the top.
I can't answer for BLR but they have a thread on theirs that you can go to and it has some answers and discussion there on this topic.Are these two products considered hormonal? Based on bloodwork, do they have any effect on testosterone or estrogen levels?
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