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What's Worked - Non-hormonal Anabolics

Jiigzz said:
Didn't realise you had a bcaa product as well.

Anyone tried this? Initial thoughts?
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Just an fyi it's currently on sale on our site for 20$. This is gonna change in a few days another retailers begin to list the product. Prob over 30.
So get in there. If you buy other stuff at the same time it'll let you use code LOYALTY for 15%off.
Our bcaas use only vegan bcaa source instead of barber shop clippings and duck feathers.
8 grams 2:1:1
Plus 1000mg HICA
And electrolytes.
Strawberry kiwi flavor. This stuff tastes amazing. We put alot of work into the flavor profile.
It's perfect.
 
Johnold said:
I think it actually said limit batch.

Cause anyone that knows MAN knows that everything is micro batch anyways.

Im sure MAN will continue to make PR-XT if it sells. Even if its in limited amount quantities. Just probably not making huge amounts and sending it to 3rd party sites cause it might not be selling fast enough. They're such a private and close nit tight company that they cant mass produce. Especially if they do stuff in house.
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micro batch is phony stuff.

if the manufacture can't run a large batch, they shouldn't manufacture.
 
brundel said:
Just an fyi it's currently on sale on our site for 20$. This is gonna change in a few days another retailers begin to list the product. Prob over 30.
So get in there. If you buy other stuff at the same time it'll let you use code LOYALTY for 15%off.
Our bcaas use only vegan bcaa source instead of barber shop clippings and duck feathers.
8 grams 2:1:1
Plus 1000mg HICA
And electrolytes.
Strawberry kiwi flavor. This stuff tastes amazing. We put alot of work into the flavor profile.
It's perfect.
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what's the difference between 99% fermented leucine and 99% leucine from hydrolysis besides your scare tactic?

Do you know how they make Vitamin C everyone consumes?
 
brundel said:
Just an fyi it's currently on sale on our site for 20$. This is gonna change in a few days another retailers begin to list the product. Prob over 30.
So get in there. If you buy other stuff at the same time it'll let you use code LOYALTY for 15%off.
Our bcaas use only vegan bcaa source instead of barber shop clippings and duck feathers.
8 grams 2:1:1
Plus 1000mg HICA
And electrolytes.
Strawberry kiwi flavor. This stuff tastes amazing. We put alot of work into the flavor profile.
It's perfect.
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I'll pick some up. Thanks for that. Cool looking labels
 
Studhorse said:
I would think after awhile you would hit diminishing returns and be wasting your money.
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Yes, I suspect that would be true. I am sooo pumped for the new product. It will be like a second Christmas! Or in my case, more exciting than Christmas..
 
For sure the Vegan stuff blends better. Its more expensive to use because the flavoring is more difficult but its worth it and we have a flavor that is incredibly good.
Regular BCAAs use harsh chemicals, bad for the environment, non sustainable.
This is the hair I just shaved off my body. Now...yes, harsh chemicals are added and processes remove things from this to get the BCAAs but still...when you have the option to use something that you would already eat which would you prefer? Scare tactic? Cmon man. Look, if you dont care, sweet.
But I do and I dont want to offer this type of product to our customers so we offer what I think it better. Take a look at the 2 pictures. Which source would you prefer? You can extract water from urine but Id rather get it from a stream. Right? Or am I crazy.
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brundel said:
For sure the Vegan stuff blends better. Its more expensive to use because the flavoring is more difficult but its worth it and we have a flavor that is incredibly good.
Regular BCAAs use harsh chemicals, bad for the environment, non sustainable.
This is the hair I just shaved off my body. Now...yes, harsh chemicals are added and processes remove things from this to get the BCAAs but still...when you have the option to use something that you would already eat which would you prefer? Scare tactic? Cmon man. Look, if you dont care, sweet.
But I do and I dont want to offer this type of product to our customers so we offer what I think it better. Take a look at the 2 pictures. Which source would you prefer? You can extract water from urine but Id rather get it from a stream. Right? Or am I crazy.
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Good post, the issue is people not educated with BCAAs and they pretty much over rated, cheap and everyone produces them, its good you post educational material.. even the BCAA buy OL labs are not “pure” i went on the bandwagon without researching and regret it.. not sure how to progress with future purchases..
 
00A said:
Good post, the issue is people not educated with BCAAs and they pretty much over rated, cheap and everyone produces them, its good you post educational material.. even the BCAA buy OL labs are not “pure” i went on the bandwagon without researching and regret it.. not sure how to progress with future purchases..
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All I can do is offer what I think are the best options. What I would choose myself. It IS what I use myself.
Solid 8g fermented Vegan BCAAs
1000mg HICA
electrolytes.

I did some research myself and I realized that the BCAAs that I had been using were rather unsavory. I just couldnt bring myself to consume them anymore. But, I love BCAAs in my intra workout water and I frequently drink them throughout the day. So I needed a solution.
Now I have one. Ours ;)
They will only be on sale on our site for a couple more days and they will likely go up by 10$ or more so....get em while they are 20$.
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Follidrone 2.0 stacks well with many things.

Just BLR products there are lots of options.

Foll, Viron, Letrone (my personal fav)
Foll, Exotherm, Prolactrone.
Foll, Rebirth, Letrone PCT stack.
Etc

non BLR
Laxo
Forskolin
PS
Creatine

Plus Follidrone is an amazing addition to AAS, DS, PH or DHEA cycles because it keeps Myostatin from rising.
Myostatin rises drastically with AAS use. I think this is to prevent wild muscle growth. This is also why people run 10 week ish cycles. Because gains taper off. Adding Follidrone keeps te anabolic window active longer and allows for vastly greater gains.

And within a few weeks youll have another anabolic from BLR to stack and another 60 days after that another so 3x anabolics to stack.
Gonna be something interesting ;)
 
I think if we knew where half our food and drinks were made/came from we would be unable to drink them. Just close your eyes and try not to think about it.

I think BCAA's are way over rated but they can be good for people when using something stronger to add to the anabolic effect.
 
brundel said:
Follidrone 2.0 stacks well with many things.

Just BLR products there are lots of options.

Foll, Viron, Letrone (my personal fav)
Foll, Exotherm, Prolactrone.
Foll, Rebirth, Letrone PCT stack.
Etc

non BLR
Laxo
Forskolin
PS
Creatine

Plus Follidrone is an amazing addition to AAS, DS, PH or DHEA cycles because it keeps Myostatin from rising.
Myostatin rises drastically with AAS use. I think this is to prevent wild muscle growth. This is also why people run 10 week ish cycles. Because gains taper off. Adding Follidrone keeps te anabolic window active longer and allows for vastly greater gains.

And within a few weeks youll have another anabolic from BLR to stack and another 60 days after that another so 3x anabolics to stack.
Gonna be something interesting ;)
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Can't wait for the new stuff. If it anything like what you already have it will be TOP SHELF!
 
I've seen Compound 20 in stores but it's the newer version that they released without the N-Coumaroyldopamine
 
brundel said:
Follidrone 2.0 stacks well with many things.

Just BLR products there are lots of options.

Foll, Viron, Letrone (my personal fav)
Foll, Exotherm, Prolactrone.
Foll, Rebirth, Letrone PCT stack.
Etc

non BLR
Laxo
Forskolin
PS
Creatine

Plus Follidrone is an amazing addition to AAS, DS, PH or DHEA cycles because it keeps Myostatin from rising.
Myostatin rises drastically with AAS use. I think this is to prevent wild muscle growth. This is also why people run 10 week ish cycles. Because gains taper off. Adding Follidrone keeps te anabolic window active longer and allows for vastly greater gains.

And within a few weeks youll have another anabolic from BLR to stack and another 60 days after that another so 3x anabolics to stack.
Gonna be something interesting ;)
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I do not understand...
Do not recommend taking your products with (creatina, laxo, forskolin, ps) ???
Did I get it right?
I'm sorry if I misunderstood ...
 
bb333 said:
I do not understand...
Do not recommend taking your products with (creatina, laxo, forskolin, ps) ???
Did I get it right?
I'm sorry if I misunderstood ...
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I think he is recommending stacking them but is saying those products listed below are not BLR products.
 
brundel said:
Follidrone 2.0 stacks well with many things.

Just BLR products there are lots of options.

Foll, Viron, Letrone (my personal fav)
Foll, Exotherm, Prolactrone.
Foll, Rebirth, Letrone PCT stack.
Etc

non BLR
Laxo
Forskolin
PS
Creatine

Plus Follidrone is an amazing addition to AAS, DS, PH or DHEA cycles because it keeps Myostatin from rising.
Myostatin rises drastically with AAS use. I think this is to prevent wild muscle growth. This is also why people run 10 week ish cycles. Because gains taper off. Adding Follidrone keeps te anabolic window active longer and allows for vastly greater gains.

And within a few weeks youll have another anabolic from BLR to stack and another 60 days after that another so 3x anabolics to stack.
Gonna be something interesting ;)
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You did not mention ARA! mmm
 
USPlabsRep said:
that's not true, they are both emulsified with lecithin.
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All I know is when my wife blends her pancake mixture and started using fermented doesn't leave a grainy texture.
She does use your Caramel cookie protein in them sometimes. really tasty!
 
Pretty sure I read somewhere ara + epi isn’t the best to stack due to one being pro imflamtory and the other relieving imflamtory
 
rowz4broz said:
Pretty sure I read somewhere ara + epi isn’t the best to stack due to one being pro imflamtory and the other relieving imflamtory
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Dosed apart should be fine though. Been doin ARA 5am pre workout then workout at 6ish and FD/mtest at lunch when I break my fast. I’ve seen no issues. Correct me if I’m wrong though please.
 
rowz4broz said:
Pretty sure I read somewhere ara + epi isn’t the best to stack due to one being pro imflamtory and the other relieving imflamtory
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Correct. Epi is anti-inflammatory while ArA promotes it. That is why Anafuse, MassMax XT, Massacre, etc. should not be stacked with X-Gels, although any of those sounds great with X-Gels.
 
brundel said:
I suggest avoiding inflammation at all costs as its a direct cause of multiple potentially life threatening disease states.
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Yep, I am 50 and wish I never used ARA. What we do during training causes enough inflammation, I seriously hope folks stop using ARA.
 
bigsmall said:
Yep, I am 50 and wish I never used ARA. What we do during training causes enough inflammation, I seriously hope folks stop using ARA.
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You guys have zero clue about how inflammation works, and the difference between how it is caused, the type and why it exists.
 
Jiigzz said:
You guys have zero clue about how inflammation works, and the difference between how it is caused, the type and why it exists.
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But one thing is obvious.
I have used ARA so many times, many cycles, some alone, others paired with Anabeta elite (excellent couple), but every time I got a cold, or a sore throat, I was getting worse, I was slow to feel good, let's say that it prolongs the symptoms of diseases ...
This was obvious about me, the sore throat during ARA never passed me ...
 
Never had those issues with ARA. And I am currently running it.

But I do not stop taking my stuff like curcumin, hyaluronic acid, acetyl cysteine, etc. (dosed apart).

I like switching around natural muscle builders. My personal favorite is certainly Turkesterone/ecdysterone, recovery and strength is great on it. And you are practically never sore.
 
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