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Yes I understand and read his qoute. But anabolic is what add muscle and androgenic is hardening/cutting and libido and energy etc. Typically high androgenic compounds are also high anabolic. So I can see why people could confuse that. Not trying to be mean or call you out or anything like that. Also I can agree that these vitro numbers don't mean much. As anadrol shouldn't be as strong as it is, has moderately low a:a rating, relatively low binding affinity and yet is a very strong compound.
Nah bro you got it backwards
 
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Im going to be giving some VAR a try in a few months... Looking forward to this
 
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Analobic: promotes growth of muscle tissue with little or no masculinization (deeping of voice, facial hair, etc) they also accelerate recovery following exercise. Examples are winny, var, primo...

Adrogenic: causes muscle tissue growth and masculinization. Think test here.*
Ok can see where you are coming from. However, if that where to be the case why are steriod like tbol(has a ZERO androgenic rating), deca(androgenic rating 37), superdrols(androgenic rating of 20) anadrol( androgenic rating of 45) dbol (androgenic rating of 40-60).

These are some of the strongest hormones yet are all very weak androgenicly
 
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Ok can see where you are coming from. However, if that where to be the case why are steriod like tbol(has a ZERO androgenic rating), deca(androgenic rating 37), superdrols(androgenic rating of 20) anadrol( androgenic rating of 45) dbol (androgenic rating of 40-60).

These are some of the strongest hormones yet are all very weak androgenicly
It says everything if you read. . Literally read it all cause then it all makes sense. It's about receptors and stuff
 
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I've agreed to keep this civil. But can I ask that you stop discouraging anavar. When numerous people say it's strong and like it.

Haha calm down I was just joking. I've never said anything bad about it. I
 

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I haven't read over this thread to realize people were frowning upon its usage.
 
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It says everything if you read. . Literally read it all cause then it all makes sense. It's about receptors and stuff
Havent read it yet I will when I get more time(in like a half hour to and hour).

Yes has to do with the binding affinity to the receptors, and time it binds to the receptors etc. Yet things like anadrol sucks at all of this moderately low a:a rating(high but low compared to alot) is still really freaking strong. It's been debated about why for a long time rumors about binding to estrogen receptors (been proven wrong) binding to progesterone receptors (it does but weakly). So it should be weak but it's not.
 
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Havent read it yet I will when I get more time(in like a half hour to and hour).

Yes has to do with the binding affinity to the receptors, and time it binds to the receptors etc. Yet things like anadrol sucks at all of this moderately low a:a rating(high but low compared to alot) is still really freaking strong. It's been debated about why for a long time rumors about binding to estrogen receptors (been proven wrong) binding to progesterone receptors (it does but weakly). So it should be weak but it's not.
Seems like the ones giving you the most sides(androgenic sides) even it has a low or high rating gives you the most muscles size like dbol.
 
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Fuk the ratings.

I mean, theyre based on prostate growth (androgenic) vs levator ani growth (anabolic).

But there are obviously AR, ER, and PR throughout the body and different tissue.

The ratings are a guide, and Id wager have little utility beyond pre-phase clinical trials. Look at the context of their use, and why SARMs have been developed. Why would LGD4033 or oxandrolone be preferred treatment over trenbolone for a 6yo girl who has suffered life threatening burns? Or a grandad who broke his hip and is bedridden for 5 months?

I dont think oxandrolone was ever considered for use as an efficient bulking agent for cattle.
 
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Bro your quote says var is more anabolic... The androgens is what slaps size on. Anabolic is good for cutting and hardening. Its not more androgenic than test and will NOT put on more size than testosterone
Ughh what? Other way round buddy
 
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That's UGL garbage, buddy. Here are all of the APIs for oxandrolone in the world:

https://www.pharmacompass.com/active-pharmaceutical-ingredients/oxandrolone

Any oxandrolone product not listed is not manufacturered by a legitimate, licensed producer.

The website alone of your "var" manufacturer is enough to show it is an UGL -- the only products they make are anabolic steroids. Yeah, lots of legit pharmaceutical companies do that...

You. Got. Scammed.
Well, not scammed -but mislead I recon.
Its the "best" anavar you can get around here. And thank you for keeping it civilized.
 
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Bro your quote says var is more anabolic... The androgens is what slaps size on. Anabolic is good for cutting and hardening. Its not more androgenic than test and will NOT put on more size than testosterone
Check it out fairly certain that's accurate
I thought that stacking anabolic with androgenic compounds is best.
Correct?
 
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Fact vs fiction. Paper vs real world. If your claims on Anavar is true, no Mr Olympia competitor would use anything but Anavar.

We've told you before, come back down to earth. Many extremely intelligent people on this board, you are not above anyone.
 
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Also. HG has anavar either way. If it's under dosed it won't matter. He is using 70mg a day, let's say he is actually getting in 40mg, with your claims he should still be "putting on pounds of muscle"
 
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Bro your quote says var is more anabolic... The androgens is what slaps size on. Anabolic is good for cutting and hardening. Its not more androgenic than test and will NOT put on more size than testosterone
Fact vs fiction. Paper vs real world. If your claims on Anavar is true, no Mr Olympia competitor would use anything but Anavar.

We've told you before, come back down to earth. Many extremely intelligent people on this board, you are not above anyone.

I can't imagine that a sophisticated lab isn't able to produce it correctly. The stuff I'm taking is sold in pharmacies to people who really needs it.
It works for me in the way I expected (more strength, more vascularity, no perceivable sides other than a bit insomnia), but it's not the proclaimed "holy grail of anabolics" like Spurfy claims it would be if "real".
 
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Also. HG has anavar either way. If it's under dosed it won't matter. He is using 70mg a day, let's say he is actually getting in 40mg, with your claims he should still be "putting on pounds of muscle"
Bumped the dosage up to 100mg today, I really want those weekly pounds of muscles ! :)

Edit: My plan was to cut on it. Now that I know its for bulking, I'm on my way to the fridge....
 
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Bumped the dosage up to 100mg today, I really want those weekly pounds of muscles ! :)
He sounds like a 15 year old who watched the Big Bang Theory and now thinks he is Sheldon Cooper.

Enjoy the lbs of LBM a week.
 
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Bumped the dosage up to 100mg today, I really want those weekly pounds of muscles ! :)

Edit: My plan was to cut on it. Now that I know its for bulking, I'm on my way to the fridge....
No need! It's the great Anavar we are talking about here. You can eat a 1000 calorie defect and still slap on those lbs of muscle and cut fat! Pretty sure it enhances penis size as well.
 
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No need! It's the great Anavar we are talking about here. You can eat a 1000 calorie defect and still slap on those lbs of muscle and cut fat! Pretty sure it enhances penis size as well.
Oh sh1t, no! Not a bigger penis! I already got entangled in the rowing machine once.
 
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Oh sh1t, no! Not a bigger penis! I already got entangled in the rowing machine once.
That's the cost of running something as powerful as Anavar!
 
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Hmmmm huge gains off anavar while on a cut.... sounds legit. Huge gains off anything on a cut... sounds legit.
 
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What is your take on anavar? Huge lean muscle gains -or more "meh"?
I have no anecdotal experience with it. Alot of people i know who have use it stacked with supraphysiological amounts of test, enjoy bulking on it. But contrary to what this guy is spitting bout anabolic:androgenic ratios, they are certainly not the be all say all because rat systems do not translate super well into a human system.
 
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I was sarcastic for anyone unaware.
 
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I was sarcastic for anyone unaware.
Me too. I never entangled my penis in a rowing machine...it was a leg press machine.
Ah...and I'm NOT on the way to my fridge, I swear!
 
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This thread changed quite a bit from one side to the other. Now for all the people who laughed at me and called me dyllan, I'm gonna take that guy and frame him above the fireplace, then I'm gonna look at him and remind myself to never touch the subject do u pick winstrol over anavar again. im not ****ing Dylan alright? I don't even have a YouTube account
 
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I never said anavar was good. Also need said it was bad. It depends on the person.
 
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This thread changed quite a bit from one side to the other. Now for all the people who laughed at me and called me dyllan, I'm gonna take that guy and frame him above the fireplace, then I'm gonna look at him and remind myself to never touch the subject do u pick winstrol over anavar again. im not ****ing Dylan alright? I don't even have a YouTube account
^ Isn't F--king Dylan. Ok. :D You've survived the trial by fire my man. Hands him an asbestos "The Pair of" asbestos underwear. Wear them proudly, but put some pants on. Don't be like hairygrandpa -- all the time.
 
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Its my first day on 100mg under-dosed Anavar (sounds legit).
Sudden changes are happening. First I felt something on my back, like a pimple...it grew over night.
To my surprise I noted it was...a cape... growing on the back of my neck, look:

 
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Fact vs fiction. Paper vs real world. If your claims on Anavar is true, no Mr Olympia competitor would use anything but Anavar.

We've told you before, come back down to earth. Many extremely intelligent people on this board, you are not above anyone.
Talking to me? Think I've kept my self pretty level headed. Since I apologized. If I came off any other way then I'm sorry
 
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Talking to me? Think I've kept my self pretty level headed. Since I apologized. If I came off any other way then I'm sorry
Speaking to spurfy or whatever the hell the idiots name is.
 
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You just said the dreaded word, wait for another storm boys!
 
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To get the most out of my under-dosed Anavar, I mixed it with e-juice and started vaping it:

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...and almost immediately I could feel my arms grow

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Oh I didn't realize you were gay?


Hahaha
No, I'm not. Don't get exited. :)
Thinking about it, at my age my rectum is loosen up, I wouldn't even notice if you sneak up on me.


You can really see the difference! I'm gonna make me some berry var juice tomorrow!
It will hit you right away! Don't ruin a perfect fitting t-shirt. Put a lose shirt on before inhaling, like I did.
 
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No, I'm not. Don't get exited. :)
Thinking about it, at my age my rectum is loosen up, I wouldn't even notice if you sneak up on me.



It will hit you right away! Don't ruin a perfect fitting t-shirt. Put a lose shirt on before inhaling, like I did.
But you vape?
 
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Hahaha seriously though good for you for quitting smoking. How's the business?
Not as good as in the past. That's why I started vaping Anavar to get muscular, I figured there is money in gay4pay. :)
 
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