Oh, don't get me wrong, my post was more directed at the inherent existence of the placebo effect at at least some small level any time you're using a supplement in a non-blinded fashion. Even though testers didn't know the ingredients, just knowing it's a nootropic could lend to some placebo effects, but that's inherent with any supplement. I do agree that the ingredients are supported by research, so the placebo-controlling and blinding have already been done in a lot more controlled environments than we could do here, so that's great as well.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the testers know that they were taking a nootropic supplement?
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/black-lion-research/286371-nootropic-testing-testers.html
The testers on anabolic minds did yes but of course this was not the only testing we ran. This was just a public trial we ran after a year of internal testing.
We tested more than a few different ingredients and blends before we landed on the final mix.
With regards to the final mix-
I gave it to people who didnt know what they were taking, people who did, people who didnt know the ingredients and those who did.
We also tested it directly against a placebo with everyone knowing it was a noot but not knowing what it was or who got the real product.
We had them run the same tests the AM trial guys ran. There were huge differences in the improvement across the board. The difference between the placebo group and the active subject group was pretty extreme. Enough that I decided to run the public trial to show people.
Trust me on this one....I would NEVER have run a public trial if I didnt already know how it was gonna turn out. Because if it failed miserably nobody would want the product.
Also on a side note......We are getting ready to run a public trial on a new ingredient. We will be needing some testers. This one is going to be a bit different as we will need everyone to personally sign a non disclosure, non compete etc.
Wait till you guys see what THIS stuff is.
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Ill be putting up a thread about this in a couple of days once the test batch is here.
For you guys reading think it over. Ill need full commitment. for 30 days.