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New Product VIRON FAQ!!!

Finished 5 weeks on Exotherm (was playing with 3, 2 and 1 pump daily) and on 2nd week added 1 cap of Viron (playing with 5 days on/2 days off AND 2 days on/1 day off/2 days on/ 2 days off).

Also had tried before Viron + Formeron and have to say due to formestane still being pro hormone for longer term taking I prefer Viron + Exotherm.

With Formeron I've also seen leaning of my belly section but Exotherm did this job much better so another plus of going with Exotherm (cause there's still formestane products available in UK).

So Viron + Exotherm stack where it shines the most are mix of both: Viron for libido and Exotherm for leaning and together they give extra long lasting morning wood.

Only thing a bit annoying or not if you like to eat a lot or if you're bulking is that both products increased my appetite and on days when taking both this was more pronounced.

No side effects at least for me if I went with 1 cap of Viron + 2x 1 pump daily of Exotherm.

If Exotherm I took 3x 1 pump then already a bit difficult to fall a sleep (similar if I'd go to 2x 1 cap of Viron which this run I didn't go) and more thirsty before bedtime and during the night.

I tried just Viron in the past that solo worked great between day 5-14 then I guess converting all that extra free testosterone to estrogen then libido went back to baseline.

Now almost 4 weeks of taking Viron + Exotherm libido was high and extra noticeable morning wood in strength and duration.

This confirmed at least to me what I've been saying on this AM forum topics for the last year - take OTC natty test booster (my favorite is tongkat ali) with decent AI to reap synergistic effect on libido boosting effect.

Summary: Viron + Exotherm stack I'd give perfect score for libido boosting and leaning capabilities.

Too bad no product rating for stacks.
 
We believe that generally the extraction process is not as it should be and that most if not all are standardizing for the wrong targets.
Thats about as far as I can go.
 
paul56778 said:
How does viron compare to olympus labs LJ100, have any of you tried both to compare them.
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I have. Both are great and highly effective for libido. Hits fast and hard but I find I build a tolerance rather quickly to both. I followed recommended dosing with both. I generally will use whichever I can find cheapest because I can't really differentiate much in the effects.
 
paul56778 said:
How does viron compare to olympus labs LJ100, have any of you tried both to compare them.
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I have used both. LJ100 is great, but you have to take more caps then Viron because it is only 100mg of actives per cap.

Viron that has 250mg of actives per cap. So dollar for dollar, Viron is a better deal because you gets 60 250mg caps
vs LJ100 which has 60 100mg caps.

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vujade said:
I have used both. LJ100 is great, but you have to take more caps then Viron because it is only 100mg of actives per cap.

Viron that has 250mg of actives per cap. So dollar for dollar, Viron is a better deal because you gets 60 250mg caps
vs LJ100 which has 60 100mg caps.

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Viron also has boron citrate which is great on its own.
250mg of our tongkat extract is a ton also. But 500.... now thats the sweet spot.
1 cap twice a day for 500mg tongkat and 20mg boron.
Libido city.
 
best protocol viron?
Five days on and two days off, five days on, two days off ...
or 7 days on 7 days?

Stack with formestane:

1st week, Viron
2nd week, Viron
3rd week, Viron + formestane
4th week, Viron + formestane
5th week, formestane
6th week, formestane

that's okay?

I have really low testosterone,
before starting this stack (Viron + formestane), soon I will make hormonal tests.
Towards September to October.

ps: 50mg formestane
 
bb333 said:
best protocol viron?
Five days on and two days off, five days on, two days off ...
or 7 days on 7 days?

Stack with formestane:

1st week, Viron
2nd week, Viron
3rd week, Viron + formestane
4th week, Viron + formestane
5th week, formestane
6th week, formestane

that's okay?

I have really low testosterone,
before starting this stack (Viron + formestane), soon I will make hormonal tests.
Towards September to October.

ps: 50mg formestane
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5 on 2 off is what has been suggested by brundel.

Low does formestane would definitely help up your test, just be careful , form also becomes
suppressive at higher doses around 300 to 400mg per day. So as long as you keep it at 50
you should be fine.

You could probably also add in Rebirth if you can afford to, because then you will basically
be running a PCT setup. Rebirth may definitely help kick start the HPTA and boost up your
test levels as well with that stack your running.

brundel

halfhuman
 
vujade said:
5 on 2 off is what has been suggested by brundel.

Low does formestane would definitely help up your test, just be careful , form also becomes
suppressive at higher doses around 300 to 400mg per day. So as long as you keep it at 50
you should be fine.

You could probably also add in Rebirth if you can afford to, because then you will basically
be running a PCT setup. Rebirth may definitely help kick start the HPTA and boost up your
test levels as well with that stack your running.

brundel

halfhuman
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Sorry if I insist...
trouble understanding English (translator ...)

ok on 5, and 2 off!
I will do so.

But according to you, 50mg of formestane, may be enough to control, possibly a surge of estrogen, due to the use of viron?
50mg is enough?
 
I have already tried formestane, and Letrone.

Letrone I liked it, I tried it for one month, I took 2cps day.
After just one week, I felt joint pain, wrist, shoulder, knees.
The "vascular" effect I noticed towards the end.
Libido was low, very low.
At that time I took only Letrone.

Formestane I loved it, tried it for two months.
I started with 50mg, then 75mg, 100mg and then, beautiful vascular effect, so much strength and heightened aggressiveness, good erection, good libido.
No joint pain, very surprised at this.
Libido was coming down towards the end of the cycle, next to the 7th week.
In conclusion fine product.
Here too, I used only a product, formestane.

In my opinion, the couple, Viron (never tried), and formestane, should be a great stack!
brundel halfhuman vujade
 
newbie8 said:
Doing incederine, viron and exotherm and sweating like crazy.
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I'll try a short Ignit3 + follidrone 2.0
Viron + formestane in September to October or November to December.
I'm undecided, Tr1umph + Ara inspires me! :D
 
bb333 said:
Sorry if I insist...
trouble understanding English (translator ...)

ok on 5, and 2 off!
I will do so.

But according to you, 50mg of formestane, may be enough to control, possibly a surge of estrogen, due to the use of viron?
50mg is enough?
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50mg may be enough. you could always bump it to 50 twice per day if needed.
 
That website is expensive!

Nutriverse with european shipping will prob be cheaper by a fair bit
 
It depends on the products and you don't have to bother with the customs. But yes, obviously American websites are cheaper. However that is also the case with regard to the other cited UK sites
 
mbonheur said:
It depends on the products and you don't have to bother with the customs. But yes, obviously American websites are cheaper. However that is also the case with regard to the other cited UK sites
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All websites seem to be the same price in europe or UK and Nutriverse cheaper on every product every time
 
M.I.D said:
All websites seem to be the same price in europe or UK and Nutriverse cheaper on every product every time
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Yes, I already ordered with them in the past and it went great. However, ML has also Yohimbine, Rauwolscine, etc. relatively cheap and you don't have to worry about customs and seizures.
 
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