New Product VIRON FAQ!!!

[wolfpack893]

anyone know where viron is in stock currently?

 

[brundel]

Its out of stock everywhere.
Its being manufactured as we speak and I expect the BLR store will have stock late next week.
Everywhere else the week after.

 

[CallItKarma]

anyone know where viron is in stock currently?

Right around time for black friday/cyber monday deals it sounds like :fingersx:

This is the last piece of my PCT for my upcoming cycle...I've been trying to avoid going with something else because I hear such awesome things about viron!

 

[brundel]

Right around time for black friday/cyber monday deals it sounds like :fingersx:

This is the last piece of my PCT for my upcoming cycle...I've been trying to avoid going with something else because I hear such awesome things about viron!

Yah we should have it by then for sure and I expect some sales on black fri.

 

[TheMovement]

Im loving Viron so far, literally able to see the subtle differences its made thus far. Looking forward to the next bottle

 

[abformulations]

Im loving Viron so far, literally able to see the subtle differences its made thus far. Looking forward to the next bottle

Amazing stuff.

 

[brundel]

Im loving Viron so far, literally able to see the subtle differences its made thus far. Looking forward to the next bottle

I swear by Boron.
I mean I literally do cycles of boron citrate
And I know the Eurycoma is very good. There has been a really strong positive response from Viron users.
FAR more than I had anticipated. We sold out much faster than I had expected.

Im gonna start a log tomorrow. GOnna use only Follidrone and 10mg boron citrate. The goal is gain 20lbs and lose 10lbs of fat.
I know this sounds insane but I have muscle memory on my side.
I injured my shoulder and have been out of the gym since july 4th.

This is a great opportunity for me to use myself as an example of what can be done with proper nutrition and Follidrone.
I cant take any steroids so its 100% natty + FD.

Already took before pics but they are fn miserable so I may never post em. Well see.

 

[abformulations]

I swear by Boron. I mean I literally do cycles of boron citrate And I know the Eurycoma is very good. There has been a really strong positive response from Viron users. FAR more than I had anticipated. We sold out much faster than I had expected. Im gonna start a log tomorrow. GOnna use only Follidrone and 10mg boron citrate. The goal is gain 20lbs and lose 10lbs of fat. I know this sounds insane but I have muscle memory on my side. I injured my shoulder and have been out of the gym since july 4th. This is a great opportunity for me to use myself as an example of what can be done with proper nutrition and Follidrone. I cant take any steroids so its 100% natty + FD. Already took before pics but they are fn miserable so I may never post em. Well see.

How much Follidrone u plan on taking?

 

[brundel]

2 caps prior to training.
Ill ship to you today. Keep forgetting.

 

[abformulations]

2 caps prior to training. Ill ship to you today. Keep forgetting.

Two caps is good.

I believe u this time lol

 

[brundel]

Do you have a scale at home?

 

[abformulations]

Do you have a scale at home?

Who me? If so yes sir

 

[brundel]

Yes.
Good. I might use you as a guinea pig if you dont mind.
Ill likely have you consume ever higher doses until you "feel" it so I can discover the threshold.

 

[abformulations]

Yes. Good. I might use you as a guinea pig if you dont mind. Ill likely have you consume ever higher doses until you "feel" it so I can discover the threshold.

I'm with it lol

 

[green1990]

Anybody noticed sleep problems on viron?

 

[abformulations]

Anybody noticed sleep problems on viron?

Not at all. Your dose should be first thing am. Hard for it to give u problems at night

 

[TheMovement]

Not at all. Your dose should be first thing am. Hard for it to give u problems at night

Really been doing 1 am 1 PWO will switch up

 

[kisaj]

Morning and early afternoon for me. I get jazzed up.

 

[abformulations]

Really been doing 1 am 1 PWO will switch up

Yea I like mine first thing in the am. Give it a go. How late U workout?

 

[TheMovement]

Yea I like mine first thing in the am. Give it a go. How late U workout?

5-630 most days

 

[abformulations]

5-630 most days

Yea I'll definitely avoid it pre at that time. Either all at once in the am or split it. 1 am and 1 about 6 hours later. Make it easy I'll just stick to am

 

[TheMovement]

Yea I'll definitely avoid it pre at that time. Either all at once in the am or split it. 1 am and 1 about 6 hours later. Make it easy I'll just stick to am

Why's that?

 

[abformulations]

Why's that?

I like first thing because boron has a long halflife. Reason if u want to split dosage is to keep it in the system longer buy IMO it doesn't really matter.

 

[brundel]

I take mine in the morning as well although I dont take the Tongkat. I just take boron.
It really is great when it starts to kick in though. Like someone said previously you can really see a difference in your physique.
Just harder and more dense. Not 100% sure why to be honest.
Im itching to start my Follidrone but I need to get more in the swing.
This was the longest off period I have ever had since I started training. Even after my cardiac arrest I was back faster.
The good news is even low level weight training leaves me sore so its not going to be hard to regain the first 10-15lbs of mass back.

 

[green1990]

I plan to dose am, when viron comes back in stock. I was asking again because I have heard of other tongkat causing sleep disturbance. But you and others confirm it shouldn't

 

[mcgeier]

Would it be beneficial to run Viron/Boron on cycle of AAS/PH?

 

[Mission1]

Would it be beneficial to run Viron/Boron on cycle of AAS/PH?

Save it for P C T

 

[brundel]

Would it be beneficial to run Viron/Boron on cycle of AAS/PH?

YES!!!
The reason is it reduces SHBG among other things. THis makes more of the hormones you are taking available to bind to receptors.
Basically it makes the cycle stronger without upping the dose.
It also lowers cortisol
raises vit d and all kinds of other beneficial things on cycle.

 

[green1990]

YES!!!
The reason is it reduces SHBG among other things. THis makes more of the hormones you are taking available to bind to receptors.
Basically it makes the cycle stronger without upping the dose.
It also lowers cortisol
raises vit d and all kinds of other beneficial things on cycle.

I really hope the cortisol lower properties are true. I want Viron SOOO BADD

 

[mcgeier]

YES!!!
The reason is it reduces SHBG among other things. THis makes more of the hormones you are taking available to bind to receptors.
Basically it makes the cycle stronger without upping the dose.
It also lowers cortisol
raises vit d and all kinds of other beneficial things on cycle.

Thanks! Will add it to my next cycle for sure.

 

[brundel]

Also....looks like Ive stumbled upon another gem.
Looks VERY promising as a natural anabolic.



This time I think Im gonna apply for patent before I spill the beans.
Looks like you guys are in for a treat though.
Its amazing these things are not more well known. Then again random chemicals tested 70 years ago are hard to filter through I guess

 

[brundel]

I really hope the cortisol lower properties are true. I want Viron SOOO BADD

 

[StellaArtois]

I woke up with right nipple pain this morning almost like a tender bump under the right nipple. Only thing taking is Viron and follidrone. Took follidrone before without any side effects. Viron related? One month of viron one pill a day sometimes two on a Saturday workout day.

 

[abformulations]

I woke up with right nipple pain this morning almost like a tender bump under the right nipple. Only thing taking is Viron and follidrone. Took follidrone before without any side effects. Viron related? One month of viron one pill a day sometimes two on a Saturday workout day.

Could be the viron, yes. It's recommended to take an ai alongside it. Get some formeron asap

http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/black-lion-research-formeron.html

 

[Joshlm69]

I woke up with right nipple pain this morning almost like a tender bump under the right nipple. Only thing taking is Viron and follidrone. Took follidrone before without any side effects. Viron related? One month of viron one pill a day sometimes two on a Saturday workout day.

Its been stated a thousand times to take Viron 5 days on 2 days off. its also been said multiple times that Viron can/will raise your estrogen levels. If you have high natty estro levels, it can cause what you say your symptoms are. get some formeron in your life

 

[abformulations]

Its been stated a thousand times to take Viron 5 days on 2 days off. its also been said multiple times that Viron can/will raise your estrogen levels. If you have high natty estro levels, it can cause what you say your symptoms are. get some formeron in your life

This ^^

 

[kisaj]

Keep in mind that when you are lowering SHBG, estrogen, and increasing free test that you are playing with homeostasis and the body is going to adjust to compensate. You need to cycle it or you will eventually start to see estrogen sides. Viron (or boron and TA directly) is not increasing estrogen, it is causing the body to react and "level" out hormone production.

 

[StellaArtois]

This ^^

Im taking ad3-pct two caps at night. Basically old erase formula with it. Can I continue taking that or do I need formeron

 

[kisaj]

Im taking ad3-pct two caps at night. Basically old erase formula with it. Can I continue taking that or do I need formeron

Arimisatne does little to nothing for e2 control. It helps with cortisol. Cycle your Viron and look to add a real AI like Formeron if needed.

 

[Joshlm69]

thats definitely strong enough to handle viron.

fyi i took viron 5 on 2 off for 3months and never got any estro sides. I wasn't using an AI

 

[StellaArtois]

Thanks. I'm stopping the virontoday you think couple days and this clears? Will continue another month of ad3. I didn't get formeron because I was worried about pro hormone side effects. Decided to stay away from PH, and have been into using products that BL research puts out. But I can certainly buy it if this is the only way to clear this.

 

[kisaj]

Like we've said. Cycle this and see. Your body isn't going to miraculously adjust everything back to normal in a couple days. Give it a break, come back and cycle it, then decide if you need an AI. Adding in an AI now is just going to bring a variable in play.

I am not a fan of chasing things down. I reset and start from scratch.

 

[Joshlm69]

Thanks. I'm stopping the virontoday you think couple days and this clears? Will continue another month of ad3. I didn't get formeron because I was worried about pro hormone side effects. Decided to stay away from PH, and have been into using products that BL research puts out. But I can certainly buy it if this is the only way to clear this.

formeron is as mild as the word mild means in terms of a prohormone, it really isnt a prohormone, but scientifically it is. If it makes your sore nipple go away id definitely get it. unless youre having like 10 pumps a day

Dont use viron until youre all cleared up, then go back on it, but either 4 days on 3 off or 5 on 2 off. and dont exceed 1 capsule!

 

[abformulations]

Arimisatne does little to nothing for e2 control. It helps with cortisol. Cycle your Viron and look to add a real AI like Formeron if needed.

Beat me to it.

 

[StellaArtois]

You don't think the ad3 did it? I woke up in the morning and felt this pain and I take the ad3 at night.

 

[StellaArtois]

Besides sore nips are there other permanent issues I will get, health wise.

 

[brundel]

Besides sore nips are there other permanent issues I will get, health wise.

Unfortunately when test rises so does estro. Plus lowering shbg can release some estro. Viron is likely the cause. While I don't think arimistane is gonna fix it I doubt it's causing it.
Stop.
Or add formeron.
Or both.
No longterm issues regardless of which you choose. It'll even out when you stop.
Personally I'd begin to cycle 5 on 2 off and add formeron.

 

[daywalker375]

Im gonna go ahead and jump on some Viron finishing up my pct from a long test e cycle, cant find the stuff anywhere someone point me in the right direction im new here.......................... TOD GARNER? 3/B? If soo you need to hit me up its your long lost buddy lol "token black guy in Bco"

 

[brundel]

Sorry bud its out of stock. I should have more by monday and you can buy it direct from us before it ships to retailers.
http://www.blacklionresearch.com/buy-now/

 

[StellaArtois]

Update - Stopped the Viron tenderness/pain gone. Recently purchased formeron and doing one pump a day.