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VIRON
High grade Eurycoma longifolia (EL) extract plus Boron citrate

Eurycoma longifolia Jack (Tongkat ali, Pasak bumi) is a plant native to Indonesia, Maylasia, Thailand, and vietnam. Raw plant material and extract have been used for centuries as a tonic for libido and sexual function. Studies indicate that it has tons of properties beneficial to the bodybuilder or weight trained athlete. Anyone who trains seriously knows what testosterone is and its vital importance to performance, strength and muscle gain not to mention libido and confidence and everything male. Lots of people don’t realize though that much of your Total testosterone is bound up and unusable. The majority of your test is bound to SHBG (Sex Hormone Binding Globulin). SHBG is a glycoprotein that binds to sex hormones, androgen and estrogen. Anything bound by SHBG is not available to bind to androgen receptors which is where we want it. EL raises testosterone levels, helps to manage estrogen, reduces cortisol and improves quality of life. Not all EL is equal though and we took great care to ensure we have the best possible extract that is only used by us. Many El products are fake, poor extracts or even just ground up plant material. Some are spiked with drugs like viagra or stimulants which may be harmful to your health. Our EL is the highest possible quality and will always be the best EL available for any price.
EL has been shown to have the following potential effects:

  • Boosts testosterone
  • Increases luteinizing hormone
  • Promotes erection
  • Reduces SHBG
  • Increases Free testosterone
  • Decreases cortisol
  • Decreases estrogen
  • Increased muscle mass
  • Improved sexual performance
  • SERM properties
EL is a star component to Viron but it’s not alone. We also include 20mg Boron citrate.

Boron is a natural trace mineral that many people are deficient in. Boron has the potential to increase your FREE testosterone to levels high enough to create an abnormally anabolic environment. Even if your total testosterone levels are in normal ranges if your free test is very high it will be similar to total test being super high as its the free portion that really matters.
BORON CITRATE PROPERTIES INCLUDE

  • Increases Free testosterone
  • Increased DHT
  • Increased Vitamin D
  • Decreases inflammation
  • Increased muscle mass
  • Improves joints
  • Strengthens bones
  • Reduces estrogen
  • Lowers plasma lipid levels and enables removal of cholesterol through various means.
  • Enhanced cognitive function. Hand eye coordination, Short term memory and concentration.
Viron is a great supplement for:

On natty supp cycles to keep test levels up and for the huge increase in free T. Also just for the added health benefits of both EL and Boron.
Off cycle for increased test levels and to keep SHBG low. Lots of guys like to take EL year round for its mood and libido enhancing properties and many people are boron deficient.
It is especially good for PCT. You could run the Viron and Formeron for PCT with no other additions. Post cycle your system is a mess. Aside from the obvious benefit in PCT of raising test and free test EL acts like a SERM similar to tamoxifen (novadex). In addition you get reduced inflammation and improved lipid profile (lipids are normally extremely bad after any oral steroid or prohormone). Furthermore you will benefit from the reduction in cortisol and general mood improvement everyone needs during PCT.

Combines with Formeron it makes a perfect PCT.


EL increases testosterone

EL decreases cortisol

EL increases LH

EL decreases estrogen.
 

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During pct, should viron be taken every day or cycled 5 on 2 off?
 
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I would still personally do the 5 on 2 off but its up to you.
 
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Unsure but there is another UK distributor who has it currently.
 

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I would still personally do the 5 on 2 off but its up to you.
Is this strictly for the perceivable effects the product imparts? As in strictly for the energy/feel good portion of effects? Or would the rest of the effects such as cortisol control, free test increase, etc. also diminish with regular use everyday? If the cycling is strictly for the feel good effects, I'm more inclined to use the product continuously in order to restore my body to a more robust state after a cutting cycle, mild as it may have been.
 
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Damn. Didn't know it helped with inflammation

I've been taking this with Ara.. Think it's ok brundel? Or maybe take viron say before bed?

Does this hit cortisol hard enough? Or is a added cort supp ok to take wit it? My assumption is free test is the main effect?
 
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Is this strictly for the perceivable effects the product imparts? As in strictly for the energy/feel good portion of effects? Or would the rest of the effects such as cortisol control, free test increase, etc. also diminish with regular use everyday? If the cycling is strictly for the feel good effects, I'm more inclined to use the product continuously in order to restore my body to a more robust state after a cutting cycle, mild as it may have been.
Im not aware of any studies where they staggered dose.
Results regarding Test, free test, Cort, estro etc were all non staggered dose.
It does seem like taking a day or two off lets you continue to see the mood enhancement and energy properties.

Feel free to take everyday though. I take my boron everyday.
 
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Damn. Didn't know it helped with inflammation

I've been taking this with Ara.. Think it's ok brundel? Or maybe take viron say before bed?

Does this hit cortisol hard enough? Or is a added cort supp ok to take wit it? My assumption is free test is the main effect?
Should be ok.
Im not sure how strongly it lowers cortisol. In one study it looks like 30% ish.
 
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Ordering for pct, looks like a good finishing touch.
 

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When I was taking boron separately, I took it everyday. I started cycling my tongkat a few years ago with a 4/3 and now a 5/2 since starting Viron.
 

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Ordering for pct, looks like a good finishing touch.
It's seriously very good. You wouldn't find a better tongkat product on the market and I say that because I've tried most all of them.
 

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Just end orders a bottle. You taking it with estrogen blocker or no?
 

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Type error lol just ordered a bottle solo or with e blocker?
 

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I have never needed one in the past. Now I wouldn't know because I use Formeron. :)
 

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Ok cool. Wasn't sure. You hear boron raises estrogen but i read it lowers it as well as tongkat.
 
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Should be ok. Im not sure how strongly it lowers cortisol. In one study it looks like 30% ish.
Figured that. 30% is good and basically any other cort supp can be added than.

But I you never answered my other question? What you think of Ara with it? Ik it's not suggested to take anything anti inflammatory with it. Thts why I ask. Not sure how strong this is in that dept. Ik fish oils should've be taken with Ara but wondering on Viron.

Btw I'm loving it. 5 on 2 off is the way to go.
 
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Here is the thing.
Inflammation is one of the primary causes of tons of disease states.
Cancer
arthritis
Asthma just off the top of my head but there are many more. Its more important to prevent disease in your body than gain a pound or two.
So my opinion is take the antioxidants.
 
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Taking viron with estrogen blocker?
I would take it with an AI.
SERMS block estrogen but when you stop estrogen is still elevated. An AI will lower it.

Viron will raise test levels alot which also elevates estrogen.
Also Viron lower SHBG so this releases Free Test but also potentially estrogen.

Best bet is to run Formeron with it.
Anything that seriously raises test levels can raise estro levels.
 
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When I was taking boron separately, I took it everyday. I started cycling my tongkat a few years ago with a 4/3 and now a 5/2 since starting Viron.
How much boron were you taking?
 
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I just started taking Follidron, and want to add this to it. I am also already taking a test booster. should I stop the booster before taking this or is ok stack?
 

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Hey Kisaj, what effects have U noticed from Viron while being on HRT ???



It's seriously very good. You wouldn't find a better tongkat product on the market and I say that because I've tried most all of them.
 
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Kisaj 2 caps/day what are thinking ? 1 cap wake up and 1 cap pre workout about 3 hours later.
 

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Yeah, that is good. My supplement routine is always split between first thing in the a.m. and then about 1-2pm.
 
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Hey guys no one responded to my question. If I am already taking a test booster, should I stop it before taking Viron. Or can I stack?
 

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You can continue as Viron is going to help increase free test and lower SHBG.
 
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Not likely no.
There may be a slight increase in DHT but not enough to cause hairloss.
 

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I'm going to order Viron and Folli run it for two months. I wanted to add something else to stack would something like Ad-3 or armcare work here? Anything else I could and for synergy? Not doing formeron. Thanks.
 
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I am no expert, but you probably add something like SNS-Xgels. Then again it depends on what you are trying to achieve since I don't know the supps you mentioned. I am currently running folli stacked with SNS-xgels and I am loving the pump and vascular I am getting. With me about to add viron....hmm, who knows lol.
 

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Ad-3 and armcare is An-drosta-3,5-diene-7,17-dione.

Just wondering if something like that would be good to add with viron/Folli. I've done ara ARA
 

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I bought two bottles of viron. I didn't realize it was 60 servings. Any negatives to running 2 per day. One night one day. Or two at once. I was hoping to run this for 2 months.
 
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I bought two bottles of viron. I didn't realize it was 60 servings. Any negatives to running 2 per day. One night one day. Or two at once. I was hoping to run this for 2 months.
I ran it at 2 (one am then one pm) but I was also on formeron at that time. Now I'm jist running one cap a day and still feel great. Try one, save the other bottle for rainy days
 

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Most run 1 a day, but prefer the extra kick and run 2 on training days.
 
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2 is good ! I run 1 am and 1 pm, I'm going to do 2 am before training.
2 bottles = 24 weeks at 1 cap
2 bottles = 12 weeks at 2 caps
 
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1 cap is sufficient enough.
 
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1 cap is sufficient enough.
 
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I bought two bottles of viron. I didn't realize it was 60 servings. Any negatives to running 2 per day. One night one day. Or two at once. I was hoping to run this for 2 months.
I like 2 caps per day.
 
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Viron got here today, looking forward to throwing it in with my Follidrone which has been a great product. Putting on good weight easier then I've ever been able to. Working overseas right now and the guys are asking what Im taking, always good when your gains are noticeable.
 
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Viron got here today, looking forward to throwing it in with my Follidrone which has been a great product. Putting on good weight easier then I've ever been able to. Working overseas right now and the guys are asking what Im taking, always good when your gains are noticeable.
Awesome brother. I love when people notice as well.
Im especially happy when I know its my products your using :)

Keep up then hard work and let us know how the Viron works!!
 
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Solid thread with Info
 

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