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EvoMuse Presents: KetoInduce

dsade said:
Yeah, I threw Vanillean at you which has that complicated mechanism of FTO suppression and the can of worms that comes along with it.

BTW, if anyone needs help designing a diet around KetoInduce usage let me know and I will buy a block of time from Marc, throw a discount in, and hook you guys up.
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I'm all about this. Hit me with a pm if you want to discuss. I already have two on order but would be willing to add longer/more
 
dsade said:
Yeah, I threw Vanillean at you which has that complicated mechanism of FTO suppression and the can of worms that comes along with it.

BTW, if anyone needs help designing a diet around KetoInduce usage let me know and I will buy a block of time from Marc, throw a discount in, and hook you guys up.
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I'm in!
 
I have an interesting idea for using this I thought I'd run by you guys. Currently I'm 2 weeks into a cutting phase. I'm about to start a 6 week cycle, that will begin as a straight cut, then will graduate into more of a recomp/lean bulker during the 2nd half. I'll be utilizing ostarine in the first 2 weeks, and once I get my hands on Olympus Labs Sup3r-4 I'll add that in for the duration.

I'm contemplating using KetoInduce and Strafe during post cycle therapy. My thought process for this is that during the second half of my cycle, I will be increasing calories over the last few weeks, which will take me into pct at a higher calorie level that I finished my cut phase at. I theorize that the utilization of KetoInduce and Strafe in pct will allow me to keep calories elevated during the day to solidify the gains made during the lean bulk portion of the cycle, while simultaneously allowing me mitigate any extra fat gain, if not even continuing to lose fat during pct.

I would certainly love to have KetoInduce available now to use while I'm cutting, however that unfortunately isn't an option. If I purchase some, I should have it available in time for pct if shipping time estimate works out. Anyone have any thoughts on this plan?
 
As long as you don't go hog wild with the calories approaching bedtime, I think this will work out great. The Strafe will help you hold onto that muscle, and the KI will keep fat gain at bay.
 
Just saved a spot for the KI and MCT powder. I'm thinking of alpha burn as well. Is this pretty much the equivalent of analyzed supplement's Target A2?
 
Sorry been away from the forum for ages. I'm a keto guy, been doing a ketogenic diet since the 90s under Dan Duchaine and then Lyle McDonald. No one loves keto more than me. Recently the new flavor of the month or MLM scams are these exogenous ketone products. Pat Arnold and Dr Dagastino are well respected in this area and have never made any claims that are not true about exogenous Ketones. The MLM companies selling*exogenous ketone products*on the other hand are full of ****.

Showing higher ketone readings on the ketostix means absolutely nothing. You are pissing out the products and getting a false positive. In addition ketosis does not = fat loss as many people easily gain fat in ketosis. Ketosis is the metabolic state where your body is using fat as its preferred fuel source, doesn't mean fat loss even though I get shredded on a ketogenic diet that is a result of reduced calories and increased cardio exercise. Ketogenic diet is easier for many to adhere too not any more effective than slow fat diet

Chasing Ketones is the worst thing you can do if fat loss is your goal.

Using*exogenous ketone products especially pre cardio can absolutely hinder your fat loss results. There are very good uses for*exogenous ketone products and the science is solid but fat loss is not necessarily one of them. *I can drink mct or coconut oil and show purple on the stix at a fraction of the cost of*exogenous ketone products and still gain fat. I can also get fat if I don't cut calories while in ketosis.

I also use blood ketone testing and can do cardio and double my ketone readings right after.


Exogenous ketone products are great pre workout, cycling, running events. Great for easing your transition Or adaptation into a ketogenic diet. I use them after a carb up to ease the transition back into ketosis not to speed up fat loss.

So my question is...what is in KetoInduce? Basically an *exogenous ketone product like KetoCana? Is there something else added that makes it better? I use so many EvoMuse products and love them but have questions about this product. Where is the evidence that higher ketone readings means fat loss?


Please please...I hope I'm not being out of line. I love Evomuse and Matt is a genius I just am puzzled about the use and claims of exo-ketones. I'd be happy to buy this product too if I can learn more...thanks!!!
 
kdubson14 said:
Will there be a write up for this? Wondering how it differs from the current methods for exogenous ketone administration used in research
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Depasi said:
Finishing this up as we speak, meant to have it out a few days ago. Went down too many research rabbit holes...
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DieselNY said:
It doesn't...unless the write up is still to come, because page 1, first post does not answer any of the questions.
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still to come
 
DieselNY said:
It doesn't...unless the write up is still to come, because page 1, first post does not answer any of the questions.
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I should hopefully have the writeup up for you today, and it'll answer all of your questions.
 
Do we have a ship date for the KI orders yet? I just moved and will want to have it shipped to the new address instead
 
booneman77 said:
Do we have a ship date for the KI orders yet? I just moved and will want to have it shipped to the new address instead
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The amino acids and the Na-R-ALA are in customs clearance and the BHB salts should ship about the 7th from Illinois. Should have it all out by the 10th or 11th.
 
dsade said:
I should hopefully have the writeup up for you today, and it'll answer all of your questions.
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Thank you brotha!
Off topic - any update on new stock for Leptigen BASIC, Epitome and Metabolic Rebirth?
 
dsade said:
The amino acids and the Na-R-ALA are in customs clearance and the BHB salts should ship about the 7th from Illinois. Should have it all out by the 10th or 11th.
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That BHB salt moniker always makes me think of bath salts. I can't help buy envision a bunch of jacked up super ripped zombies eating their own fingers....
 
Beta-hydroxybutyrate salts. Looking forward to the write up. As I said in my first
post, I'm curious how KI upregulates ketone production without depleting glycogen
 
DieselNY said:
Thank you brotha!
Off topic - any update on new stock for Leptigen BASIC, Epitome and Metabolic Rebirth?
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Epitome is in stock. I overloaded my supplier with a bunch of new stuff for alpha testing (an anti-inflammatory nasal spray for one to relieve allergy/hayfever swelling for Spring), but I shot him over the list for Rebirth and Basic supplies last week.
 
Where my IL bros at?

I'm in KY now, but grew up in central IL over by Iowa (WIU grad).
 
NW near Rockford as well. Rockton/Roscoe area near WI border.

So if anyone knows about Rockford, then you know me and Aaron.Cole are gangster lol.

One of hardest cities per capita in the US.
 
dollar662 said:
Any news on thermogensauce while we wait on this?
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I tried the other day, but it's really back intensive. Going to have to wait until after surgery.
 
One of my good friends in college is from Rockford.

We went up to his parents' place for a project one weekend. Had a ridiculous time (that resulted in his drunk hometown friend wanting to hook up with a girl who ended up being a stripper and invited us to her house for a "party" that was actually just us 4 guys and her -- nothing happened, btw -- but talk about awkward/dangerous).
 
MidwestBeast said:
One of my good friends in college is from Rockford.

We went up to his parents' place for a project one weekend. Had a ridiculous time (that resulted in his drunk hometown friend wanting to hook up with a girl who ended up being a stripper and invited us to her house for a "party" that was actually just us 4 guys and her -- nothing happened, btw -- but talk about awkward/dangerous).
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Lol. Sounds like Rockford.

Now there is pretty much 1 or more shootings each night.
 
DieselNY said:
Sorry been away from the forum for ages. I'm a keto guy, been doing a ketogenic diet since the 90s under Dan Duchaine and then Lyle McDonald. No one loves keto more than me. Recently the new flavor of the month or MLM scams are these exogenous ketone products. Pat Arnold and Dr Dagastino are well respected in this area and have never made any claims that are not true about exogenous Ketones. The MLM companies selling*exogenous ketone products*on the other hand are full of ****.

Showing higher ketone readings on the ketostix means absolutely nothing. You are pissing out the products and getting a false positive. In addition ketosis does not = fat loss as many people easily gain fat in ketosis. Ketosis is the metabolic state where your body is using fat as its preferred fuel source, doesn't mean fat loss even though I get shredded on a ketogenic diet that is a result of reduced calories and increased cardio exercise. Ketogenic diet is easier for many to adhere too not any more effective than slow fat diet

Chasing Ketones is the worst thing you can do if fat loss is your goal.

Using*exogenous ketone products especially pre cardio can absolutely hinder your fat loss results. There are very good uses for*exogenous ketone products and the science is solid but fat loss is not necessarily one of them. *I can drink mct or coconut oil and show purple on the stix at a fraction of the cost of*exogenous ketone products and still gain fat. I can also get fat if I don't cut calories while in ketosis.

I also use blood ketone testing and can do cardio and double my ketone readings right after.


Exogenous ketone products are great pre workout, cycling, running events. Great for easing your transition Or adaptation into a ketogenic diet. I use them after a carb up to ease the transition back into ketosis not to speed up fat loss.

So my question is...what is in KetoInduce? Basically an *exogenous ketone product like KetoCana? Is there something else added that makes it better? I use so many EvoMuse products and love them but have questions about this product. Where is the evidence that higher ketone readings means fat loss?


Please please...I hope I'm not being out of line. I love Evomuse and Matt is a genius I just am puzzled about the use and claims of exo-ketones. I'd be happy to buy this product too if I can learn more...thanks!!!
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Would love to see his log on KI, anyway dsade can send him to try out ?
 
dsade said:
The amino acids and the Na-R-ALA are in customs clearance and the BHB salts should ship about the 7th from Illinois. Should have it all out by the 10th or 11th.
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Sweet. Thanks. Is there somewhere I can pm or email with my order to make sure it ships to the correct address? I changed it on my site account but not sure that's enough
 
booneman77 said:
Sweet. Thanks. Is there somewhere I can pm or email with my order to make sure it ships to the correct address? I changed it on my site account but not sure that's enough
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Yeah, shoot an email to [email protected] with the correct address and I'll flag a note on your order.
 
The beta testers weren't running this for anything other than testing for ketosis.

This was not a full, formal log.

I'll probably be doing a couple of those when the stock comes in, for people especially at a sticking point.
 
dsade said:
The beta testers weren't running this for anything other than testing for ketosis.

This was not a full, formal log.

I'll probably be doing a couple of those when the stock comes in, for people especially at a sticking point.
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Looking forward my doorbell ringing and KI with your MCT product waiting for me.
 
dsade said:
The beta testers weren't running this for anything other than testing for ketosis.

This was not a full, formal log.

I'll probably be doing a couple of those when the stock comes in, for people especially at a sticking point.
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Sent you a email regarding my recent order, when you find time let me know if it's possible. thanks
 
Here's a question....if you're already in ketosis, what happens if you take this? Haha. I only ask because I don't plan on using keto sticks and what if I "accidentally" dose another one while being in ketosis already?
 
ma70 said:
Here's a question....if you're already in ketosis, what happens if you take this? Haha. I only ask because I don't plan on using keto sticks and what if I "accidentally" dose another one while being in ketosis already?
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You'll mostly just waste a dose.
 
Thank you. This is 5 months overdue. Can't wait to get back to my old self.
 
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