so what you are saying is that Arimacare Pro is enough for this cycle (triumph,dermacrine,mass gh). Save letrone and exemestane for trest cycle next year?
I also read that nolva and exemestane are used as pct together? any thoughts on this...
There is a good PCT thread somewhere on this site that explains things a lot more but yes Arimicare Pro will be plenty during the cycle. Nolva and Exem work well together but you have to consider when to use these things. You would want to start the SERM aka Nolva first then add in the exemestane a couple weeks into PCT. No need to be on it in the beginning. Especially with your supplement line up for PCT.
Gracias Sir!
So much info this is awesome. You guys are great.
Cycle:
triumph
dermacrine
mass gh
arimacare pro
follidrone
PCT:
Super pct
rebirth
viron
follidrone
letrone for an AI
PCT Supps - I don't know if you already have everything in hand but you are overkill here. If you have not purchased everything I would make some decisions on what you want to run and save the rest or save the money on it. I will explain why and hope I don't get slapped around for proper education instead of supplement sales.
Super PCT - Strong AI, Mucana for Prolactin support, SHGB Binders to free testosterone, estrogen modulator in I3C, general nutrients for testosterone support like ZMA, magnesium, B6, and liver support which helps with the SERM which is liver toxic anyway. A solid product by itself.
Rebirth - Estrogen Modulator to help increase natural production, it is basically a natural SERM. - You will already be taking a real SERM in Nolva r Clomid - this would be ideal if you are not planning on starting out with a real SERM and want to see if you can recover naturally. However probably not much use if you are going to actually take a SERM like Nolva or Clomid. So that leaves you with a few decisions, go no SERM and use this, go with a SERM and this, or use SERM & save the money on this or use it on a weaker cycle down the road like recovering from Ostarine or something. The product is solid but the need for it in this instance... that is something for you to ponder.
Viron - Viron is a pretty bad ass SHGB binder! It increases your free testosterone levels without having to increase total serum levels. Unbound testosterone is the only active form of testosterone. Taking an SHGB will make you feel like your test levels are much higher than they are because free test is much higher. This is excellent for how you FEEL during a PCT, however it also falsely reports to your HPTA that you are back up to normal Serum Test levels because the free levels are high enough. So as great as they can make the beginning of PCT feel they are actually making the recovery less efficient. You can actually cause some shut down just using an SHGB product for too long. This is exactly why most test booster bottles say run them for no longer than 8 weeks. You can gradually step your natty production down by fooling the system to think there is more than there is. If going to run this in PCT I would only run it the first 2 weeks then drop it.
Letrone - Strong AI with lots of other benefits. This would be something to consider here, I highly doubt you will need this if you are running SuperPCT. Between the two of them you would drop your estro uncomfortably low. I would pick one or the other.
As far as exem, I HIGHLY doubt you will have any need for it. You have 2 strong AI's here in your list and coming off a basically non aromatizing cycle except for the dermacrine your estro levels should not be that high. I can't imagine you needing this just to combat estro rebound unless it was your only AI. However again, if you are purchasing a research / pharma AI anyway why not use it instead of spending more money on supplements you already know won't do as good of a job as it will? I mean spending money on the actual medicine just to have it incase a supplement doesn't work doesn't make a lot of sense financially. That would be like running a fever going to the doctor to get on antibiotics, buying the prescription and going home putting it in a cabinet just in case the OTC fever meds didn't kill the bacterial infection. Doesn't make a ton of sense does it?
In the end supplement wise, both companies are legit and have great products. You should decide if you want an all in one product like Super PCT, or each thing being taken care of by a individual product using the BLR set up for your PCT and make your purchases accordingly. Both have advantage and disadvantages.
If it were me I would do this. Pharma Grade Nolva, arimidex, and an Anti cortisol supplement for the first 2-3 weeks of PCT with some NAC, fish oils, and perhaps TUDCA which are often staples for me. Other than that I might add in some MK-677 and an epi product, and that would be it.