FORMERON FAQ

[brundel]

Would I be wrong in suggesting that the tops of feet are good applications spots? I feel like the skin is just as thin as anywhere else on the upper body, and once you put socks on it keeps the skin moist enough to allow good absorption.

On top of that you're not going to have any issues with the clothing or daily activities brushing off excess crystals - which I've been led to believe is the active compound. With the moisture of your feet you don't have to worry about reapplying lotion or hand sanitizer to encourage absorption later in the day

Actually I hear the tops of feet are great.
The bottom, however is probably the worst spot

 

[GreenMachineX]

Actually I hear the tops of feet are great.
The bottom, however is probably the worst spot

Are the crystals the active compound like justeat said?

 

[brundel]

Are the crystals the active compound like justeat said?

Yes. All transdermal formestane products are partial suspensions.
Its normal.

 

[GreenMachineX]

Yes. All transdermal formestane products are partial suspensions.
Its normal.

Should we be heating the bottle up before application by sitting in a warm bowl of water or something to dissolve the crystals?

 

[justeat]

Actually I hear the tops of feet are great. The bottom, however is probably the worst spot

Indeed. Makes sense!

 

[Todd Garner]

Formeron should be here today, APO. Looking forward to drying out a bit before heading stateside.

 

[cainb96]

Just made another order from orbit. Use code SOCIAL and I got 10% off. Came out to $45 shipped. Not bad!

 

[Driven2lift]

Just made another order from orbit. Use code SOCIAL and I got 10% off. Came out to $45 shipped. Not bad!

Thanks for the support brother! Glad Formeron is back in stock again,

BLR is hard to keep stocked since all the company growth/publicity, which was well deserved.

 

[kisaj]

Great support all around. Thanks everyone!

 

[urosinho10]

I know I probably sound like a retard right now lol, but just to be sure, this is a nono for tested athletes?

 

[brundel]

Pretty sire any AI would be but youll need to check with whoever does the testing.

 

[urosinho10]

Erase pro aswell? Because as far as I know it's completely natural.

 

[wolfpack893]

would using latex gloves to apply formeron would hinder application very much at all if I just use one finger to apply it? I only ask because using my wrist is such a pain and is hard to spread out over different parts of my body. Also, is one pump just pushing the pumper all the way down once? cause it seems like a lot comes out for just one pump.

 

[kisaj]

One pump is pushing it all the way down. You can use gloves, but there is no need to spread it all over your body. Pick a spot and profit. I prefer my inner thigh and the wrist works perfectly.

 

[wolfpack893]

okay thanks man, and would shaving that area help with absorption?

 

[kisaj]

No. Don't make this too complicated. It works incredibly well as is.

 

[muree]

All that libido stuff has kinda made me hesitant for future usage of formeron, I used it on its own for 8 weeks 2 pumps ed for first 4 then 4 pumps a day for last 4 . Libido remained normal throughout , didn't taper when I came off, but when I did come off (last week) libido has been really high this week as in much higher that what's normal for me. Obviously that's not a bad thing and will probably go back to normal soon. However them libido posts just make me hesitant for future usage, have I got anything to be worried about if i continue to use it ?

Arnold,

I am the one who started the libido concern.. and that was a personal experience for just me and maybe a few others. The majority of AM'ers who use formeron have reported only libido increases and not decrease. Its just my body chemistry that reacted differently to formeron (libido decrease), but the product as such did a fantastic job of giving a dry appearance to me in just 3 days of usage. I've now stopped using formeron and going forward will only be using once a week as even using it every other day didnt really bump the libido at all. I've started using viron from yesterday and so far a very slight increase in libido (day 2) compared to last week. I'll keep this thread posted on how it goes with Viron.

 

[Joshlm69]

All that libido stuff has kinda made me hesitant for future usage of formeron, I used it on its own for 8 weeks 2 pumps ed for first 4 then 4 pumps a day for last 4 . Libido remained normal throughout , didn't taper when I came off, but when I did come off (last week) libido has been really high this week as in much higher that what's normal for me. Obviously that's not a bad thing and will probably go back to normal soon. However them libido posts just make me hesitant for future usage, have I got anything to be worried about if i continue to use it ?

Youre hesitant to use something that produced nothing but good results for you? that makes no sense

 

[kisaj]

Agree^^^

 

[jacecubby]

I just got my bottle in and started yesterday. Just a couple questions . One pump is full pump from top to bottom slowly ? And one more thing, from some of the post I read I thought this was more of a thicker gel type unlike other brands. What I got is like water. By the time I pump it on my forearm, its running in floor before I can rub it in . Not a problem, but was wondering if you could leave in refrigerator and thicken it up ? Any need to shake up before applying ? Thanks.

 

[PARASXOS]

has anyone experienced hair loss with formeron 1-2 pumps?im really concerned cause im prone...

 

[Joshlm69]

has anyone experienced hair loss with formeron 1-2 pumps?im really concerned cause im prone...

I think as brundel posted, formeron can actually aid in stopping hairloss

 

[jacecubby]

I just got my bottle in and started yesterday. Just a couple questions . One pump is full pump from top to bottom slowly ? And one more thing, from some of the post I read I thought this was more of a thicker gel type unlike other brands. What I got is like water. By the time I pump it on my forearm, its running in floor before I can rub it in . Not a problem, but was wondering if you could leave in refrigerator and thicken it up ? Any need to shake up before applying ? Thanks.

any input on this brundel ?

 

[EatMoar]

any input on this brundel ?

Yes. Slow pump = 1 pump. Also its fine, the consistency of the solution will vary with tempature. Its hot over here now and my formeron was a little watery.

Its fine, still works.

 

[kisaj]

I have found that if a bottle is a little runnier, I just shake it up a little more and it helps.

 

[brundel]

any input on this brundel ?

Its slightly more thin than normal. This is because we were having some issues with manufacturing that were resolved by adding slightly less carbomer.
For now just do your best to use it as is.
I wouldnt pump onto your forearms anyways. Forearms are not great for absorption.
Lean back a bit and pump onto chest and rub in with wrists.

Its possible....we may be working on a carrier alteration.

Gotta separate us from the clone warriors.

 

[jacecubby]

Its slightly more thin than normal. This is because we were having some issues with manufacturing that were resolved by adding slightly less carbomer.
For now just do your best to use it as is.
I wouldnt pump onto your forearms anyways. Forearms are not great for absorption.
Lean back a bit and pump onto chest and rub in with wrists.

Its possible....we may be working on a carrier alteration.

Gotta separate us from the clone warriors.

I thought I read somewhere in earlier post inside of forearms was a good spot. If not would biceps be good ? does the issues in manufacturing have an effect on how effective the product is or absorbed ? And what about keeping it in frige to thicken it up ? Thanks, you been very helpful. People that stand by products means a lot.

 

[jacecubby]

I thought I read somewhere in earlier post inside of forearms was a good spot. If not would biceps be good ? does the issues in manufacturing have an effect on how effective the product is or absorbed ? And what about keeping it in frige to thicken it up ? Thanks, you been very helpful. People that stand by products means a lot.

Any info on this Brundel ? Thanks.

 

[Noutster]

Its slightly more thin than normal. This is because we were having some issues with manufacturing that were resolved by adding slightly less carbomer.
For now just do your best to use it as is.
I wouldnt pump onto your forearms anyways. Forearms are not great for absorption.
Lean back a bit and pump onto chest and rub in with wrists.

Its possible....we may be working on a carrier alteration.

Gotta separate us from the clone warriors.

As you posted as an advice before, i'm pumping on my forearms and rub them toghether. But now i read this isn't a good place?
I have loads of chest hair, so i cant rub it on my chest. Any other places for some good absortion?
Besides that, is it correct that the little flakes are the working particles from Formeron's substance? Because i can rub all i want, apply as much hand sanitezer as i want, there is allways a gloss of flakes left on my body.

 

[brundel]

I thought I read somewhere in earlier post inside of forearms was a good spot. If not would biceps be good ? does the issues in manufacturing have an effect on how effective the product is or absorbed ? And what about keeping it in frige to thicken it up ? Thanks, you been very helpful. People that stand by products means a lot.

I used to use my forearms and years ago I recommended it but its actually pretty poor.
Upper chest, neck, delts is approx 300% better absorption.

There is 0 difference in the product quality, absorption, effectiveness.
Just a little thinner. Same product though.

 

[brundel]

As you posted as an advice before, i'm pumping on my forearms and rub them toghether. But now i read this isn't a good place?
I have loads of chest hair, so i cant rub it on my chest. Any other places for some good absortion?
Besides that, is it correct that the little flakes are the working particles from Formeron's substance? Because i can rub all i want, apply as much hand sanitezer as i want, there is allways a gloss of flakes left on my body.

Yes I did say this years ago but I have received new information that changed my recommendation.
Inner thighs are good.
Or shave. I shave...its easy and I dont look like teen wolf anymore.
Get yourself one of these

The flakes are formestane and you will never get 100% of them through.
Its perfectly normal.

 

[GreenMachineX]

Yes I did say this years ago but I have received new information that changed my recommendation.
Inner thighs are good.
Or shave. I shave...its easy and I dont look like teen wolf anymore.
Get yourself one of these

The flakes are formestane and you will never get 100% of them through.
Its perfectly normal.

Ohhhh heck yeah. I'm going out to buy one of those today!

 

[Todd Garner]

Took 15 days but just got the Formeron, ready to see how this goes.

 

[kisaj]

Have fun and prepare to be shredded.

 

[wolfpack893]

Hey Mates, Im new to this forum but I want to weigh in on this product! STATS=28yrs, 6ft 4in, 225. Be lifting consecutively for 7 years and I have lost 148lbs and succesfully kept this weight off! I have been on Anrogel for Hypogonadism thought to be caused by a small pituitary cyst at 3 pumps a day for about 4 years now. I have read alot and researched alot on Formeron by Black Lion Research and I HAVE NOT READ ONE BAD REVIEW....So I ordered 2 bottles as I was having a little bit of gyno issues. My last labs came back at 780 on a 300-1200 scale! I felt great but was retaining water and had sensitive nipples, etc! I have been on Formeron for 2 weeks and this product is amazing! I was hesitant even with all the reviews I read to buy this but I am glad I did.....I recently grabbed a bit of gear from and will start Test e at 800mg ew and Tren e at 300mg ew along with continued use of Formeron! Im excited about the next year! I will be runing 3.....10 week cycles with 2 months in between each cycle! Im hoping of putting on a solid 20+lbs and then looking to get with a plastic sugeon to have access skin removed and will then do my first comp! Again Im glad to be abord and look forward to fututre post.


GOD BLESS and DO WORK MATES

Good stuff bro, just started formeron myself so hope it works at well for me too!

 

[brundel]

Hey bud,
Im stoked you like Formeron enough to post about it. It says something when you rarely post because what you do post is likely important to you.
Also You spent some time to write a good deal as well.
Im super happy Formeron was able to help you reach your goals and now that you have it youll never need to worry about estrogen issues while on HRT or cycle.

Also Im impressed by your weight loss and its a testament to your hard work and determination. You should be proud of yourself brother.
Black Lion Research is different in many ways from other companies but one thing that separates us is that the Owner (me) is here to answer your questions and is sincerely interested in your goals, health and the benefit you get from using our products. We treat you like one of our own. Even if you have 3 posts.

This being the BLR forum we cant talk about steroids too much so Ill keep it brief.
If you choose to run trenbolone you will almost certainly encounter side effects stemming from elevated prolactin levels.
These side effects can be mitigated by including Prolactrone in your cycle.
Prolactrone was the first prolactin inhibitor on the market and has always been the best way to combat prolactin levels without harsh drugs like cabergoline.

http://www.strongsupplementshop.com/prolactrone-by-black-lion-research

Benefits:
-Increases Dopamine Levels
-Increases HGH Levels
-Improves Mood
-Improves Sleep
-Increases Libido
-Can Reduce Cholesterol
-Increase Energy
-Increase Fat Burning

 

[weltweite]

Brundel,

Aromasin caused me to shed hair when I was taking it. I was wondering, have you heard of any similar reports with taking Formeron?

I assumed that blocking conversion to estrogen might increase DHT conversion, but I don't know if that was the reason for the shedding.

 

[brundel]

Brundel,

Aromasin caused me to shed hair when I was taking it. I was wondering, have you heard of any similar reports with taking Formeron?

I assumed that blocking conversion to estrogen might increase DHT conversion, but I don't know if that was the reason for the shedding.

Exem and other AIs can cause this in rare cases.
Formestane is a mild 5 alpha reductase inhibitor so of all the AI's I know of its is the least likely to cause these side effects.

 

[brundel]

Hey Brundel, I really appricate your input and you knowledge as well as customer service!! THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES and is a testemant to the products you produce and endorse....I did a lot of research on the Prolactrone as well and if it is anything like Formeron I willmost certainly be grabbing a few bottles. Sorry for my post about steroids, guess you can tell im green. lol, I appricate the comments about my weight loss and I will be posting picture of Before...before, and then current before and afters once first round of gear is done. I will tell you I have told many buddies about the Formeron and am certain you have gained atleast a handfull of new clientel. I hope you can keep this product above nground for along time to come. Great products, great price, great service! I ordered throough TGB and they sent a sample packet of protein powder. Who doesnt like free stuff on top of fast service? I got my package within 3 days as promised.

GOD BLESS AND DO WORK MATES

Hey Bro, Youll really like the Prolactrone. Hands down the best way to combat prolactin. Medications for this purpose can cause pretty terrible side effects.
Prolactrone improves mood and sleep and libido
Increases HGH a TON
and kicks proalctin to the curb.

 

[circularstrid]

I have decided to start use Formeron @ 2 pumps a day as of yesterday. Allready feeling effects this morning when I woke up with a much stronger boner and feeling a LOT more "cleaner" energy. I am not sure how exactly does Formeron directly effect energy levels so quickly but I am convinced that this is NOT a placebo because the effects are INTENSE (Like an INTENSE energy rush and very clean).
For those of you who don't know..I have had recent lab work (before the Formeron) showing that I have high estrogen and testosterone serum in the low 300's. Of course I am not endorsing Formeron over medicine but as a legitimate supplement that actually WORKS for people like me with low test and high estro and symptoms are constantly tired all of the time...extreme morning lethargy...ED problems...motivation/depression issues, etc...
Another question (I apologize if this hasnt been answered, havent had the chance to read all of the posts because I work a lot of overtime) is Formeron in the proposed upcoming ban?
And I cannot end this post without giving MASSIVE props to Trevor @ TGB supplements for incredibly fast shipping (shipped out on SAME day) and gave me TWO freebies for an order of ONE formeron bottle. Now THAT is how business should be run!!!
Ok...I am going to keep you all updated as the days and weeks progresses on. I will get a new panel of blood work hormone profile in 40 days from now after contioniously using formeron @ 2-3 pumps a day.

 

[kisaj]

Interested in your lab results. ON TRT, Formeron lowers my e2 an average of about 10-12 points with the recommended dose of 2 pumps. Keeping in mind that my e2 is already under control, so if someone was high, it may work even better.

I know the energy feeling you are talking about and it really has to to do with 2 things. First is the "rush" many people seem to find after application. Second is the actual energy boost from not being weighed down by excess estrogen.

Form has the best carrier available from any transdermal I have used. Smells great and dries fast- which are the two major complaints about most td on the market.

 

[circularstrid]

Do you know what causes that "rush" that occurs almost immediately after the application? It vaguely reminds me of that first rush I got when I inhaled my first cigaratte (but without any of that dizzy, drowsiness, nausea feeling).
I will scan both copies of my blood test results after I get the 2nd one in 40 days from now and will link that to this post or make a new thread about it.
Also the smell of the Formeron is awesome and it seems to dry almost immediately with very few resulting crystals. I apply it to my upper inner wrist (where the veins are) and then rub it in a circular motion into the delts and traps.
I am holding off the proposed TRT plan that I had because if formeron can correct my fatigue and lack of energy problems then I would prefer NOT to go on TRT even though my levels were in the low 300's.

Interested in your lab results. ON TRT, Formeron lowers my e2 an average of about 10-12 points with the recommended dose of 2 pumps. Keeping in mind that my e2 is already under control, so if someone was high, it may work even better.

I know the energy feeling you are talking about and it really has to to do with 2 things. First is the "rush" many people seem to find after application. Second is the actual energy boost from not being weighed down by excess estrogen.

Form has the best carrier available from any transdermal I have used. Smells great and dries fast- which are the two major complaints about most td on the market.

 

[kisaj]

I don't know anything it could be other than adrenaline or some mental surge. I used to get it when I would first inject on TRT and I'd just feel a huge wave of energy for an hour or so.

 

[brundel]

My thought is your test levels are rising.
After mine was 300 and i started trt it felt like someone turned the lights on. Just felt better in every possible way. Formeron elevates test levels quickly so....99% sure this is what it is.
Estro dropping and test rising.

 

[ActionFigure3]

Hello Brundel!

Here are my stats!
27 years old
5'11
195
7% BF
I've been a 100% all natural athlete my entire life. Played Division I football and NFL for 2 years. People tell me I am blessed with great genetics. I think I'm just skinny lol. I keep really defined abs all year, but it's incredibly hard for me to put on size with naturally staying so lean. I'm a certified nutritionist and have been training for 15+ years so my diet and workouts are spot on. However, I'm really interested in putting on quality muscle now and trying my first cycle, BUT, I have absolutely no clue about how to best set it up. Through tons of research this is what I've gathered so far and I'd like your expertise because I want to use most of your products throughout my cycle! Please if you could help me set it up, it would be a huge help! Please add/take out stuff as you see fit. You are the expert!

Goal: Put on as much lean mass as possible with minimal side effects

Prohormones:
Mechabol: 75/75/75/100/100/100
LMG-25: 75/75/75/75/75/75 (Still deciding on this; not sure about dosage either)

Other Muscle Building Compounds to use with it: (This is where I need major help)
Prolactrone (Prevent Prolactin that could be caused by LMG?)
Formeron (Better to run ON cycle or PCT or neither with this set up?)
Dermacrine (Test Base?)

Liver Supporting Supplements ON Cycle:
N2Guard
Hawthorn Berry Extract
TUDCA
NAC
Sam E

Other Supplements ON cycle:
Animal Flex
Allmax Vitastack
Vitamin C, E, and B5
ProSupps Incredibulk Protein (1300 calories)
Allmax Nutrition IsoFlex (for times when I need to get in quick absorbing protein)



PCTNeed major help here too!)
SERM (Nolvadex, Clomid, Tamoxifen?) Not sure which is best or if it is needed.
IGF-LR3 (probably not, but looking for something with this type of effect that's safer and doesn't require pin)
Follidrone
Viron/Dermacrine/DAA/or other natty test booster of your choice
Formeron (safe to run a suicidal AI with PCT?)
Prolactrone (is this necessary?)
Creatine Monohydrate
N2Guard
Hawthorne Berry
TUDCA
NAC
SAM E

If you have time please feel free to correct/revamp my entire cycle! Feel free to PM me. You will be a lifesaver, literally! Thanks so much in advance!

 

[Wokfighter]

Brundel!
Can you run formeron,viron,and follidrone for 16 weeks straight?
I Dont want to stop.thanks for making amazing products!

 

[brundel]

Brundel!
Can you run formeron,viron,and follidrone for 16 weeks straight?
I Dont want to stop.thanks for making amazing products!

Yes sir.
In fact I recommend it.

 

[brundel]

Hello Brundel!

Here are my stats!
27 years old
5'11
195
7% BF
I've been a 100% all natural athlete my entire life. Played Division I football and NFL for 2 years. People tell me I am blessed with great genetics. I think I'm just skinny lol. I keep really defined abs all year, but it's incredibly hard for me to put on size with naturally staying so lean. I'm a certified nutritionist and have been training for 15+ years so my diet and workouts are spot on. However, I'm really interested in putting on quality muscle now and trying my first cycle, BUT, I have absolutely no clue about how to best set it up. Through tons of research this is what I've gathered so far and I'd like your expertise because I want to use most of your products throughout my cycle! Please if you could help me set it up, it would be a huge help! Please add/take out stuff as you see fit. You are the expert!

Goal: Put on as much lean mass as possible with minimal side effects

Prohormones:
Mechabol: 75/75/75/100/100/100
LMG-25: 75/75/75/75/75/75 (Still deciding on this; not sure about dosage either)

Other Muscle Building Compounds to use with it: (This is where I need major help)
Prolactrone (Prevent Prolactin that could be caused by LMG?)
Formeron (Better to run ON cycle or PCT or neither with this set up?)
Dermacrine (Test Base?)

Liver Supporting Supplements ON Cycle:
N2Guard
Hawthorn Berry Extract
TUDCA
NAC
Sam E

Other Supplements ON cycle:
Animal Flex
Allmax Vitastack
Vitamin C, E, and B5
ProSupps Incredibulk Protein (1300 calories)
Allmax Nutrition IsoFlex (for times when I need to get in quick absorbing protein)



PCTNeed major help here too!)
SERM (Nolvadex, Clomid, Tamoxifen?) Not sure which is best or if it is needed.
IGF-LR3 (probably not, but looking for something with this type of effect that's safer and doesn't require pin)
Follidrone
Viron/Dermacrine/DAA/or other natty test booster of your choice
Formeron (safe to run a suicidal AI with PCT?)
Prolactrone (is this necessary?)
Creatine Monohydrate
N2Guard
Hawthorne Berry
TUDCA
NAC
SAM E

If you have time please feel free to correct/revamp my entire cycle! Feel free to PM me. You will be a lifesaver, literally! Thanks so much in advance!

this is painfully long lol. Im here to help though so here goes.

Ill start by saying your overthinking things and overdoing it.
Im also limited with regards to what I can say in thie being the non AAS section. So Ill only state one thing-

The base of ANY steroid cycle should be testosterone-
Im aware that the term "test base" is parroted all over the internet. Particularly among the PH crowd. They use it as a way to somehow think in their mind that they are using test as a base but only test is test. So, your only using a test base if your using testosterone. Period.
DHEA is not test and cannot replace it.
People will argue this till they are blue in the face because so many people repeat it that even though it makes no sense lots of people believe it.
So unless you plan to inject or rub on some test you cannot use a test base which is ideal.

You can, however, do your best to keep test levels at least sort of running.
This is done by using test boosters and by keeping estrogen down. It also helps to use dry (non aromatizing compounds) which I will recommend shortly.
Viron works very well to keep test levels up. Its a combo of tongkat and Boron.
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/black-lion-research/252460-new-product-viron.html
I would use this on cycle to keep test levels rolling.

I think a combo of epistane and trenavar should do the trick I cant recommend a non sponsor so PM me and Ill tell you which one to use.
One bottle with both in there.
Ill also recommend a cycle support from the same company so again PM me.
Try to keep PMs under 900000000 words please
n2 guard.....80$ for a cycle support supp?
There are as good or better ones for hald or a third of the price. PM me and Ill show you which.

so cycle format will be like this-

6 weeks
Epitren- 2-3 caps daily.
Viron 1-2 caps daily
Follidrone- 2 caps pre workout
Cycle support daily.
Prolactrone for prolactin issues that may arise from the trenavar. 1 cap -2 caps daily. 1 should be enough.
Take it at least 12 hours apart from your multi vitamin.
Do not take any extra b6/pyridoxine or p5p with it or at all on this cycle.

PCT=
4 weeks-
Formeron- 2 pumps daily. 1 AM 1 PM. Suicidal AI is ALWAYS better.
Viron- 1 cap per day
Clomid if you have it. 50mg for 2 weeks and 25 mg for 2 weeks.

Start the Formeron the last week of the cycle.

You dont need all this other stuff.
If you want to take vitamins fantastic. Creating awesome.
You dont need SAMe or tudca or dermacrine


2 grams protein per lb of bodyweight.
Structure carbs around training and cut them off for the last meal or 2.
6 meals.
No sugar.
Lots of veggies
1 gal water min.


Progressive training. -
Get a log book or use your phone notepad. There needs to be constant progress.
I can show you how to utilize and plan for a cycle and how to force your body to grow by following certain training strategies.

 

[kisaj]

Good lawd brundel!

 

[ActionFigure3]

Brundel,

Sorry for the long, boring, painful novel I wrote! But I sincerely thank you for that thorough answer! I really appreciate you taking the time to do so! You need to give me your Paypal, heck I feel like I need to pay you for that answer!