LOG: Turning to Demigod - TR3ST, M1T, test and maybe more!

Nice speed work!! Loving the form!!

How are you liking the 6-bromo? How does it compare to formestane?
 
Some very good form on the squats man. Have you ever used low bar placement?
 
GoHardOrGoHme said:
Nice speed work!! Loving the form!!

How are you liking the 6-bromo? How does it compare to formestane?
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Very interested on this as well... Currently Deciding which AI to run for epi/trest.
 
GoHardOrGoHme said:
Nice speed work!! Loving the form!!


How are you liking the 6-bromo? How does it compare to formestane?
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Thanks. I was relatively happy with my squats after such a long break.

I kind of like 6-bromo. It's potent enough to keep estrogen under control with my relatively low doses of everything but I'll probably up it to 100mg/day when I up the TR3ST to 75mg/day. I still prefer Formeron over it though - if gyno would happen to me, I don't think 6-bromo would help to destroy it.

By the way, I think this M1T may be something else than M1T. I'm not bloated. I'm not pulling glycogen into my muscles. I don't feel like **** - it's the opposite. Hell, I put on more size on Epi than I do on this M1T.

Of course I may be a bad responder but with my current carb intake I should definitely be bloated like a michelin man but I'm not. Not saying it's bunk though - it definitely does something. I look better than I would do without it but so far I'm kind of disapponted, I'd get better gains on 30-40mg/day of Epi. I will up it to 22.5mg/day at some point and see if it helps.


reps4jesus said:
Some very good form on the squats man. Have you ever used low bar placement?
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Thanks! No I haven't. This isn't high bar placement either, it's something in between. Just feels comfortable for me.

justeat said:
Very interested on this as well... Currently Deciding which AI to run for epi/trest.
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Check above :) I'd probably go with Formeron, except if you're worried about rubbing it to your wife and kids. 6-bromo works for sure though!
 
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Starting to feel that your m1t is bunk:(

You should have blown up like crazy by now....

6 bromo is alright, have you ever tried ATD?

Different stories about that one too.
 
edje007 said:
Starting to feel that your m1t is bunk:(

You should have blown up like crazy by now....

6 bromo is alright, have you ever tried ATD?

Different stories about that one too.
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I don't know if it's bunk - I've had good experiences with Twisted Iron Supplements in the past. But it's definitely not what I expected. Maybe it's M1T and I'm just a bad responder, maybe it's something else... Dunno. But I feel good on it and it's not wet.

I've tried ATD but I hate it. It kills my libido and makes my joints hurt. Will never touch that stuff again.
 
I upped TR3ST to 75mg/day and 6-bromo to 100mg/day today.

I'm tempted to up this so-called M1T to 22.5mg/day but won't do it yet. I think I'll keep it at 15mg/day for one more week and up it to 22.5mg/day for the last week.
 
g0hardorgohom said:
I upped TR3ST to 75mg/day and 6-bromo to 100mg/day today. I'm tempted to up this so-called M1T to 22.5mg/day but won't do it yet. I think I'll keep it at 15mg/day for one more week and up it to 22.5mg/day for the last week.
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Is M1T still legal and is it stronger than DMZ ?
 
- Squat
355lbs OK
375lbs OK
415lbs easy but forgot the "rack" command, lol


- Deadlift
420lbs OK
465lbs OK
510lbs no, got it past knees but no...


Not happy. Squat went fine but missed the command...
 
It's all good man you knew this was gonna be a tough one but you still got 415 up so that's good :)
I think your m1t is bunk though bro
 
g0hardorgohom said:
- Squat
355lbs OK
375lbs OK
415lbs easy but forgot the "rack" command, lol


- Deadlift
420lbs OK
465lbs OK
510lbs no, got it past knees but no...


Not happy. Squat went fine but missed the command...
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Good job on the 415!...missing a lift b/c you miss the rack command I always found to be silly.

Keep pushing it with the deadlift. We all miss lifts, even ones that we should make. Be proud you got the squat and next time you walk up to 510, make it pay!

Sorry about the M1T. Have you ever tried M1A? If you have, you can compare it to the M1A. From my understanding M1T should be way stronger then M1A so if you got more gains from the M1A, it's not that you are a non-responder, but its probably something else.
 
I've tried M1A at very low dose (20mg/day) for short period of time and it was more potent than this M1T at 15mg/day.
 
415lbs squat:
[video=youtube;8Zfy_RmJ8ew]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Zfy_RmJ8ew&index=23&l ist=PLybZoZpP2dWNiaAOqUUh_9WRU O90jyZTj[/video]

465lbs pull:
[video=youtube;vVh54QRgfWE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVh54QRgfWE&index=15&l ist=PLybZoZpP2dWNiaAOqUUh_9WRU O90jyZTj[/video]
 
Got a nasty infection to my left armpit. This thing HURTS and needs antibiotics. I think I won't be able to hit the gym in few days... Gonna drop M1T again. This sucks!
 
g0hardorgohom said:
- Squat 355lbs OK 375lbs OK 415lbs easy but forgot the "rack" command, lol - Deadlift 420lbs OK 465lbs OK 510lbs no, got it past knees but no... Not happy. Squat went fine but missed the command...
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Am I able to put pounds on my deadlifts without actual squats ? Like leg pressing instead . Like I'm 5'7 195 but I was able to get 330 on my deadlift max .., but should I be hitting legs more like twice a week ?
 
Yodambomb said:
Am I able to put pounds on my deadlifts without actual squats ? Like leg pressing instead . Like I'm 5'7 195 but I was able to get 330 on my deadlift max .., but should I be hitting legs more like twice a week ?
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Yes you are but squat OR front squat helps with first part of pull.

I actually got my DL up with front squats and SLDL's. I SLDL's 8x400lbs and front squatted 3x300lbs @ 170lbs at my best and hell, I think 8x400lbs SLDL is better than my 7x465lbs deadlift.
 
g0hardorgohom said:
Yes you are but squat OR front squat helps with first part of pull. I actually got my DL up with front squats and SLDL's. I SLDL's 8x400lbs and front squatted 3x300lbs @ 170lbs at my best and hell, I think 8x400lbs SLDL is better than my 7x465lbs deadlift.
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Yeah I would only do real squats if I had a workout partner . Don't trust my own form . Might do a light set of two of like 135-185 but no heavier than that I don't feel like chancing .
 
Yodambomb said:
Yeah I would only do real squats if I had a workout partner . Don't trust my own form . Might do a light set of two of like 135-185 but no heavier than that I don't feel like chancing .
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Post a vid of your squats and we'll help!
 
g0hardorgohom said:
Post a vid of your squats and we'll help!
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I'm thinking that I should do squats considering that I'm on a cycle but I don't like the idea of trying to do hella weight . But I'm sure if I can deadlift close to 350 then I should be able to squat like 275 . But I noticed on your deadlift video your stance was really wide .., does that help at all ?
 
Yodambomb said:
I'm thinking that I should do squats considering that I'm on a cycle but I don't like the idea of trying to do hella weight . But I'm sure if I can deadlift close to 350 then I should be able to squat like 275 . But I noticed on your deadlift video your stance was really wide .., does that help at all ?
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My stance is not exactly very wide. It's not close either but I'd call it close rather than wide.It depends on where your strength is. I feel it easier to push my knees out with that stance than with closer stance but if I squat with wider stance, finding the right depth gets difficult.I'll post my 375lbs squat later today. It was technically much better than my 415lbs lift.
 
g0hardorgohom said:
My stance is not exactly very wide. It's not close either but I'd call it close rather than wide.It depends on where your strength is. I feel it easier to push my knees out with that stance than with closer stance but if I squat with wider stance, finding the right depth gets difficult.I'll post my 375lbs squat later today. It was technically much better than my 415lbs lift.
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Yeah I said Nvrmind because I watched yours again and realized that it was a different video that I was thinking of ..
 
Today I did some stupid bodybuilding that didn't make any sense. I had forgot how I hate lactic acid. My coach will give me my new routine by the end of this week.


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g0hardorgohom said:
Hahah, it just feels kinda pointless because my goal is strength, not size :D But I think it's good for my head to not wrap my knees few times a week, lol
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Who ever said you can't have it both ways?

Some strong men look like bodybuilders.

Some bodybuilders are freakin strong.
 
edje007 said:
Who ever said you can't have it both ways?

Some strong men look like bodybuilders.

Some bodybuilders are freakin strong.
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True that!

It'll be interesting to see how my new routine looks like... Gonna throw in some bodybuilding for upper back, delts, triceps and calves again...
 
Looks like I'll start WSB style of training. It may help with my lack of motivation - doing several sets of squats or bench gets boring. Now I'll combine max effort work, dynamic effort work and bodybuilding.


I'll focus on my weak points on deadlifts and squats and I think resistance band speed pulls, deficit pulls and paused speed squats will help.
 
g0hardorgohom said:
Looks like I'll start WSB style of training. It may help with my lack of motivation - doing several sets of squats or bench gets boring. Now I'll combine max effort work, dynamic effort work and bodybuilding. I'll focus on my weak points on deadlifts and squats and I think resistance band speed pulls, deficit pulls and paused speed squats will help.
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how do I cut up without sacrificing mass

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Looking good G0Hard! That bodybuilding style workout definitely liked you whether you liked it or not is irrelevant! ;)

No really you look thick as hell i that picture.
Yodambomb you are just going to have to start burning more than you eat. Do you know how many calories you get in per day now? If already tracking then it should be very easy to drop 200 cals per day and slowly start leaning up only dropping again as you plateau. That or eat less for a bit then add in a cardio day or two, then possibly drop another 200 cals, then maybe add in a HIIT session or add 10 minutes to your LISS cardio. Really though you need to have an idea of how much you are eating so you can remove it very slowly to maintain muscle.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Looking good G0Hard! That bodybuilding style workout definitely liked you whether you liked it or not is irrelevant! ;) No really you look thick as hell i that picture. Yodambomb you are just going to have to start burning more than you eat. Do you know how many calories you get in per day now? If already tracking then it should be very easy to drop 200 cals per day and slowly start leaning up only dropping again as you plateau. That or eat less for a bit then add in a cardio day or two, then possibly drop another 200 cals, then maybe add in a HIIT session or add 10 minutes to your LISS cardio. Really though you need to have an idea of how much you are eating so you can remove it very slowly to maintain muscle.
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I just track protein and like suger .
 
Thanks MrKleen73 :)

I think I'll add more size with WSB training than I did with "proper" powerlifting routine. I'll do more isolating exercises from now on and hopefully still get stronger on PL lifts.
 
Gear:


- test at 200mg/week
- TR3ST at 75mg/day
- 6-bromo at 100mg/day


Training session:

- Squat
3x155lbs
3x200lbs
3x265lbs
1x290lbs
1x330lbs
3x355lbs


- Rack pull
5x155lbs
5x245lbs
5x310lbs
5x355lbs
3 sets of 5 @ 375lbs


- Glute ham raise, -45lbs
2 sets of 15
9 + 4 rest-pause + 2 assisted reps


50mg of TR3ST preworkout is the bomb!


Squats were easy but not explosive. I think I might be able to set new 3RM in 2 weeks.


GHR's killed my hamstrings. I won't walk tomorrow but I think I just made .5lbs of muscle, lol.


One more experienced powerlifter said that I suck at wrapping my knees. He said that next time when we're together in the gym, he'll wrap my knees and he guarantees that I'll squat 440lbs then.
 
Gear:


- test at 100mg/week (dropped from 200mg/week)
- TR3ST at 75mg/day (will up to 100mg/day tomorrow)
- 6-bromo at 150mg/day (upped it from 100mg/day because my nipples are a bit itchy)


Training session: Upper body dynamic effort


- Speed bench press
3x45lbs
3x90lbs
6 sets of 3 @ 150lbs


- DB shoulder press
2 sets of 12


- Cable pulldown on incline bench
5x70lbs
5x90lbs
5x110lbs
5x125lbs
6x135lbs (personal best)
5x110lbs


- Dips
3 sets of 8


- Incline DB flyes
2 sets of 12


- Supersetted DB hammer curls and DB shrugs
2 sets of 20


Hell, this was FUN!
 
g0hardorgohom said:
Gear: - test at 100mg/week (dropped from 200mg/week) - TR3ST at 75mg/day (will up to 100mg/day tomorrow) - 6-bromo at 150mg/day (upped it from 100mg/day because my nipples are a bit itchy) Training session: Upper body dynamic effort - Speed bench press 3x45lbs 3x90lbs 6 sets of 3 @ 150lbs - DB shoulder press 2 sets of 12 - Cable pulldown on incline bench 5x70lbs 5x90lbs 5x110lbs 5x125lbs 6x135lbs (personal best) 5x110lbs - Dips 3 sets of 8 - Incline DB flyes 2 sets of 12 - Supersetted DB hammer curls and DB shrugs 2 sets of 20 Hell, this was FUN!
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How are you liking the trest at 75 millis? Noticeable difference from 50?
 
I'm at 100mg/day now. Aromatizes heavily. Will write more later - been busy with job and entrance exams.
 
justeat said:
How are you liking the trest at 75 millis? Noticeable difference from 50?
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Yeah, more is better as long as you can keep estrogen under control. I'm at 100mg/day right now and it's possible that I won't up it to 125mg/day soon because 4 caps of AR1MACARE PRO and 150mg of 6-bromo daily are barely enough to keep estrogen in check.50mg of TR3ST preworkout is the bomb!
Yodambomb said:
What is trest anyways ?
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It's already active compound that doesn't need any conversion. According to Mike Arnold, it's myotropic (muscle building) potential is 10x greater than myotropic effect of test (via IM administration). We already know that trest has fairly good oral bioavailability too.It aromatizes so it can be a bit wet... It makes you feel good and it also makes your libido skyrocket. It's the perfect base to all cycles. It's not just a feel-good compound, it actually builds muscle too - unlike compounds like Stanodrol (epiandrosterone).It has very short half life so it's GREAT preworkout. 50mg and you'll feel like a god...More info: Invalid Link Removed recommend to have a good AI on hand with TR3ST, just to be safe.
 
g0hardorgohom said:
Yeah, more is better as long as you can keep estrogen under control. I'm at 100mg/day right now and it's possible that I won't up it to 125mg/day soon because 4 caps of AR1MACARE PRO and 150mg of 6-bromo daily are barely enough to keep estrogen in check.50mg of TR3ST preworkout is the bomb!It's already active compound that doesn't need any conversion. According to Mike Arnold, it's myotropic (muscle building) potential is 10x greater than myotropic effect of test (via IM administration). We already know that trest has fairly good oral bioavailability too.It aromatizes so it can be a bit wet... It makes you feel good and it also makes your libido skyrocket. It's the perfect base to all cycles. It's not just a feel-good compound, it actually builds muscle too - unlike compounds like Stanodrol (epiandrosterone).It has very short half life so it's GREAT preworkout. 50mg and you'll feel like a god...More info: Invalid Link Removed recommend to have a good AI on hand with TR3ST, just to be safe.
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I just ordered a bottle of arimicare, I'm going to phase that in first and see how it affects me ai wise (I'm due to reup on support supps anyway). Based on how that works I may end up using formeron. I'm assuming you prefer 6-bromo to formeron, what are your thoughts on this?And I have to agree, I reLly like trest as well. I'm only a few days in and agree that it increases well being and libido. Can't wait till I up the dose! The feeling almost reminds me of the energy some ppl get on roxys or something... well being, confidence, ect.. (But I didn't say that :] ) Deff feel it preworkout too!
 
justeat said:
I just ordered a bottle of arimicare, I'm going to phase that in first and see how it affects me ai wise (I'm due to reup on support supps anyway). Based on how that works I may end up using formeron. I'm assuming you prefer 6-bromo to formeron, what are your thoughts on this?And I have to agree, I reLly like trest as well. I'm only a few days in and agree that it increases well being and libido. Can't wait till I up the dose! The feeling almost reminds me of the energy some ppl get on roxys or something... well being, confidence, ect.. (But I didn't say that :] ) Deff feel it preworkout too!
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No, I definitely prefer Formeron over 6-bromo. I just wanted to experiment with different AI's. Formeron is better than 6-bromo!
 
Gear:


- test at 200mg/week
- M1T at 22.5mg/day (started it again today)
- TR3ST at 100mg/day
- 6-bromo at 150mg/day (barely enough to keep estrogen under control with 100mg/day of TR3ST)


Training session: dynamic effort lower body


- Deadlift speed work
6 singles without resistance bands
6 singles with green resistance bands
6 singles with blue resistance bands


- Bulgarian split squat in smith machine
3 sets of 8


+ other accessory work


It was nice but my first time doing pulls with bands. Blue ones were way too heavy. I'll work with green bands from now on.


Been busy with entrance exams so haven't had time to update this log. Last one is tomorrow, thank god.
 
I'll up 6-bromo to 200mg/day and AR1MACARE PRO to 6 caps/day.Aromatization of TR3ST is no joke.
 
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