KLEEN'S Corner - Where the Cool Kidz Kick It!
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kenpoengineer
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These high rep workouts are killing me just reading about them! Nice job brother.
MrKleen73
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pete8407 - Yeah the first dose was pretty good. I had an aggression that I haven't had in a bit. Was pretty nice, and the vascularity is impressive for a first dose.
edje007 - Thanks and congrats on the new rep spot brother. I told you that you would not be without a rep spot for very long.
edje007 - Thanks and congrats on the new rep spot brother. I told you that you would not be without a rep spot for very long.
Oh yeah, they are intense but I love them. I am a lil bit afraid of going way heavy right now. Funny coming from a guy who just had 360 on the Decline Hammer Strength... but you know what I mean.
GoHardOrGoHme
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What up Kleen!! Im in a bit late, but Im slowly making a return to the board. In to lean a thing or two!
FYI looking freakin awesome! Loving the vascularity! Looking awesome!
FYI looking freakin awesome! Loving the vascularity! Looking awesome!
MrKleen73
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Oh Man talk about a blast from the past!!! Glad to have you back on Brother. How is everything?
MrKleen73
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Yeah I remember hearing about that too!
Feeling something first dose is pretty impressive to say the least.
GoHardOrGoHme
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Crazy busy now a days. Started competing in powerlifting, made me realize how inflated my numbers were. Went back to basics and started from the bottom up. Now im focusing on school. I may compete again this summer if times permits.
How's everything on your end?
bcazo
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I'm feeling the liquid approach as well. Impressive to feel it the first dose and coming from a guy like Kleen really means something
pete8407
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We knew we wanted someone to give us honest feedback and use the product to its full potential. Kleen was our man, the tren had his name all over it!
DreamWeaver
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Yah Chris is maybe the most trusted person on AM ... hey gohard!!! where you been ... did you go home 
First dose.. moses smell the roses...
First dose.. moses smell the roses...
MrKleen73
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Doing well, dealing with the normal tweaks and what not. Good to hear you actually got out there and competed. Sounds like it was humbling but also a great learning experience. Now you are on the right path to doing it even better. Hope school is going well, I know that is a lot of work. It will be well worth it when you are done.
Thanks for the compliment! I have to admit I was surprised. I have really been kind of lackluster in my training last few weeks. Just couldn't muster the normal intensity or drive. The first dose of this honestly woke the gym beast that was hibernating.
Thanks Pete!!!
Yah Chris is maybe the most trusted person on AM ... hey gohard!!! where you been ... did you go home
First dose.. moses smell the roses...
Thanks Doug, I really do try to give as honest of an opinion as I can.
Okay so I am not sure if this was due to my carbs last night before bed or the Tren Devastation, but I sweat through my sheets last night. Could be carbs, insulin and metabolism boost, or it could be that the Tren Dev is somehow still active in the evening giving me tren sweats. Also and this one is unrelated, at least I think so but I was having some cramps last night in my pecs. I think it was just from being completely demolished yesterday. However when i would get up to go to the restroom while moving around or whatever my pec would start to cramp up then would cramp up for about 20 minutes or more after I got back in bed. Like I said I don't blame this on the Tren Dev other than it gave me that aggression back to thrash my chest that hard. I did get plenty fluids yesterday too so i know this wasn't a dehydration situation.
Anyway, between that and feeling sick to my stomach most of the night I didn't go to the gym this morning. Really no reason to get up after about 3-4 hours of crappy interrupted sleep. Plus I started throwing up this morning... I think the steak I had last night was bad or something. It did not taste right, that or I am coming down with a stomach bug. Either way I am behind on calories for today already and eating doesn't even sound good at all.
superbeast668
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Your night sweats were a combo of your carb up and tren probably man. Carbs+tren=sweaty ass mofo. The only time I got night sweats was on carb days. Insomnia on the other hand... Yeah...
Anyways, feel better big dog. No one likes to be sick.
Anyways, feel better big dog. No one likes to be sick.
skinnybones
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My stomach flu was last week. I slept a lot.
Get well soon Mr. Kleen
Get well soon Mr. Kleen
DreamWeaver
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I think Tren will cause night sweats if I remember correctly ...hey I get hot flashes like a fuggin woman sometimes now... fun gettin fuggin old let me tell you.
superbeast668
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It's more than just tren that causes it. Like I said tren+carbs=puddles. Higher prolactin will help too. If I forget a caber/prami dose I get night sweats with deca.
I'm scared to get old I already feel like a broken down mule!
Magdalena
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PalmFist
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GoHardOrGoHme
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tren sweats+stomach flu=not fun
Get better big guy. Hopefully it was just a bad meal.
Get better big guy. Hopefully it was just a bad meal.
1ifeblood
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Meth is bad for you, bud
wasme
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First hand experience 'blood?
1ifeblood
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Ummmmm.........
MrKleen73
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Okay guys quick update, as you all know I have been sick the last few days either a stomach bug or food poisoning. I have only taken the one dose of the Tren Devastation so far which is frustrating. However I thoroughly enjoyed the workout. This sickness put a damper on the start of this but it is going to take right back off. I am hoping I feel good enough to lift tomorrow so I can start taking it again. I have lost at least 5 lbs in the last few days. Yes I am more defined but look smaller obviously. I am pretty sure we are only talking about water and glycogen here but it still very frustrating.
I shot coach a note asking if I should eat some dirty-ish foods to get the cals up as I have not been able to keep much down and what I could was minimal. Since I am trying to reverse diet to get the metabolism up I am trying to find out if he wants me to do what I need to do to get the calories in. I have a feeling that is what he will want. We aren't worried so much about me getting ripped right now than just getting the metabolism going. I am lean enough now to start a prep but my metabolism needs work to say the least.
So hopefully tomorrow will be a lot better as far as the sickness and I can crush another workout. I have not been this light in quite a while and last time I was under 200 I was a bit leaner. So right now after a few days of illness my dry weight is 198.7. I am sure that will get right back up there by the end of the weekend.
I shot coach a note asking if I should eat some dirty-ish foods to get the cals up as I have not been able to keep much down and what I could was minimal. Since I am trying to reverse diet to get the metabolism up I am trying to find out if he wants me to do what I need to do to get the calories in. I have a feeling that is what he will want. We aren't worried so much about me getting ripped right now than just getting the metabolism going. I am lean enough now to start a prep but my metabolism needs work to say the least.
So hopefully tomorrow will be a lot better as far as the sickness and I can crush another workout. I have not been this light in quite a while and last time I was under 200 I was a bit leaner. So right now after a few days of illness my dry weight is 198.7. I am sure that will get right back up there by the end of the weekend.
RegisterJr
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Hope you feel better soon, Kleen.
Let's see them pizza pics after coach gives the go-ahead!
Let's see them pizza pics after coach gives the go-ahead!
superbeast668
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I'd kill a man for pizza and ice cream. Damn you!!
wasme
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Same here.. I wrote that and then cursed myself out!
MrKleen73
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Well guys thanks for all the well wishes. My stomach is at about 80% right now. I can eat but then I get a little sick to my stomach for a bit but then it fades. Coach told me I needed to get my calories in anyway I can since I lost 5 lbs. He basically said when repairing the metabolism, getting calories in is far more important than the source. He does not argue that it is the healthiest way just that my calories getting so low only exacerbates the issue not help it.
Today I have eaten decently but again I feel nauseous for about 30 minutes after I eat. I did have some pizza last night but it was simple Digiornos, not anything special and I only had 3 pieces. He also told me to have ice cream and aminos. I had a tiny bit of that here last night so I had some. Today is going to be a lift day. I believe I will do legs. My schedule is so messed up right now but I know I need to work legs. A little scared of how that will workout for me since legs seems to have a way of making me sick sometimes even when I feel awesome. Either way my goal today is to eat big as hell and give myself a metabolism boost and a big refeed.
Food I have managed to get in this morning
Protein powder mixed into a chocolate slimfast, 68p 6f, 33c
1 flat bread with red Pepper Hummus 13p, 13f, 58c
1 grilled cheese made with whole grain bread, natural butter and 3 slices skim milk cheese + 2 scoops protein - 68p 11f 46c
So I am right at 1440 with what I have eaten so far. After my workout is where the actual carb loading is going to really take place though.
I just finished that last one and plan to hit the gym in about 60-90 minutes. Hopefully my stomach can handle legs if not I will switch to something upper body or just do a full body since it has been a little bit.
Today I have eaten decently but again I feel nauseous for about 30 minutes after I eat. I did have some pizza last night but it was simple Digiornos, not anything special and I only had 3 pieces. He also told me to have ice cream and aminos. I had a tiny bit of that here last night so I had some. Today is going to be a lift day. I believe I will do legs. My schedule is so messed up right now but I know I need to work legs. A little scared of how that will workout for me since legs seems to have a way of making me sick sometimes even when I feel awesome. Either way my goal today is to eat big as hell and give myself a metabolism boost and a big refeed.
Food I have managed to get in this morning
Protein powder mixed into a chocolate slimfast, 68p 6f, 33c
1 flat bread with red Pepper Hummus 13p, 13f, 58c
1 grilled cheese made with whole grain bread, natural butter and 3 slices skim milk cheese + 2 scoops protein - 68p 11f 46c
So I am right at 1440 with what I have eaten so far. After my workout is where the actual carb loading is going to really take place though.
I just finished that last one and plan to hit the gym in about 60-90 minutes. Hopefully my stomach can handle legs if not I will switch to something upper body or just do a full body since it has been a little bit.
wasme
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Show me your 'tiger tail'...and I'll show you what I can do!
:yikes:
MrKleen73
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I'm GREAT!!!!
LOL that isn't the same thing as the Cat of Nine Tails we use in the garage for that face in the corner action you love so much...
I think I did...
Here to show some support big guy - you gotta get that Tren flowing again asap. Once you're good enough to hold that down, you know the gain-train's gonna be rollin' back in quick
AMEN BROTHER!!!!! Nice gig working for Orbit, I LOVED repping Orbit when I did. Very satisfying position being able to recommend anything from any company. It is really the ideal rep spot if you like to be honest and recommend the best of the best not just one companies products.
Alright so this is how things went down today. I did legs, it was a rough one especially after being sick and losing 5 lbs. However things got better, and pretty damn good just before they got worse...
Took my dose of Tren Devastation, .5 ml under the tongue, interesting today it was a little bit more of a burn, I really shook it up good this time I think that had something to do with it. I had it in my mouth about 10-15 seconds when I felt my sinuses open up a bit. Was an interesting feeling and I could tell it was from the solution. I held it under my tongue for a good 60 seconds then swished around my gums and cheeks for 10-15 seconds before swallowing. Then again I waited 15 minutes before having any fluids. FYI -THIS IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO GET THE MOST OUT OF YOUR SUB-LINGUALS .
So I got to the gym about 30 minutes after dosing and went upstairs for some stairmill warm up. Level 5 for 5 minutes nothing major just getting the blood to flow.
Next to take care of this groin pull I got on the hip adductor machine:
Hip Adductor Machine - 65x25 the tempo was a 4 second neg, 1 second pause at stretch, 4 second positive, and a 5-10 second squeeze at peak contraction. In the beginning my muscle control was horrible. When I got close the center my legs would begin to quiver and shake. Whatever the injury is it is really messing with my ability to adduct completely. By the end of the set I was able to close my legs all the way without trembling and hold it without quivering the whole time. I would still quiver a little but this is going to have to be something I work on gradually and make sure I take care of.
The leg press was being used so I reluctantly went to squat which I wont lie is so adductor intensive I am quite nervous about putting any really effective weight on there. Either way I was going to at least test it with light weight. I walked up to the guy on the leg press and asked him if he could leave 5 plates per side on it for me when he finished and let me know so I could move from the squats to something I could push on.
Close Stance Squats 135x15 - this didn not hurt but is was far from challenging. I was still somewhat reluctant to add weight but I had the Tren Dev in me and apparently it does not allow you to choose the easy path when a challenging one is available. So I loaded 225 on the bar and was about to get under it when he walked up and told me to go grab the leg press if I wanted it. WHEW!!! Like I said little scared of the squats after seeing my legs tremble like that on the leg adductors.
Leg Press - Close Stance Low Feet Low on Platform for Quad dominance - 550x15, 640x10, 730x10, 820x10, 910x10 - these were done with about one minute of rest. Basically I got up added a plate to each side then sat down waited 30 seconds and started back at it. This was hard but not adductor intensive so I crushed through it. I was truly impressed that I had the power or stamina to get through that after being so sick. Plus I had NO INTENTION of going that heavy but again I blame the Tren Dev my mind said you shouldn't do that and the Tren Devil on my should said Don't be a fugging vag we came to lift weights and build muscles. Then he bitch slapped the halo off of the angel on my other shoulder and told him to man the fug up! So that is the aggression I am now dubbing Tren-Devil because he doesn't care what is a good idea only what sounds good to him.
I was unloading the 7000 plates of the machine worn out at hell. Each plate making my legs feel like more dead weight to be dragged along instead of being the means of motion. I was starting to think rationally and though I havent been able to hit legs in a bit and definitely have not even come close to this intesity since I hurt my groin. I should probably go ahead and stop now so I can maybe walk tomorrow. Well what do you know by the end of unloading everything the old Tren Devil was back and he said "SCREW THAT it is time for leg extensions and since you are being a bitch we are doing them FST-7 style."
Leg Extensions slow tempo - 110x8 x 7 sets oh man this was really burning!!!! When I got up to walk over to the calve machine I felt my knees buckle and grabbed onto a support beam to catch myself. It took a minute to get my quads to cooperate with me.
Donkey Calve Raise Sled - 350x15, 350x15, 350x15 my knees kept trying to buckle under the weight on these but I made it through.
Keep in mind my stomach was only about 80% when I went to the gym so naturally this quick pace and hard work...
Yep that is right. I got up off of the calve machine started walking and boom I had to get to the bathroom quick it was time to hurl!!!!!
So just another day with puking in it... YAY!!!! At least this time I can say at least 90% of the cause for this one was hard work and not just being sick!
Okay now I need to get my last shake and a large serving of fat free rice pudding!!!
MrKleen73
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Alright so today was a little better for me. I managed to get in a decent refeed ending up at 303 protein, 425 carbs, and 50 fats. My abs still look good right now. We will see how they look in the morning. On tap for tomorrow, arms and shoulders. Biceps will be higher rep again. I am still babying this stupid biceps tendon. Looking at my biceps I see a small divot in the end of my biceps not sure if it may have a slight tear or just tendon inflammation. There is a similar spot on the left but it is not as sharp, could just be a difference in shape as my right has always had a higher more abrupt peak and my left always was bigger and longer so it is hard to tell. I am just going to have to bite the bullet and see if I can get into my ART guy next Saturday. You all know me I will work around this biatch but starting to worry me a little since it only got better to a certain point in the last 6 weeks so not sure, I really don't want to have to stop training it for any time before the show. My arms are one of the things I have been trying to bring up so that would be a crappy set back.
MrKleen73
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Thanks Pete, having a weird one as you saw I had a pretty big day for food and I woke up 2 lbs less than I was the other day... Very frustrating. I shot coach another note to see if I should go ahead and break off another big day, get that metabolism up and these damn calories up. I simply can not continue to lose weight at this rate!!!! I do not care at all at this point if I get leaner just yet I really wanted to see some forward movement in the scale some filling back up and growth while I try to bring my metabolism up.
I do think part of it was several days without the Tren Dev, and having no test my cortisol probably shot up from that and being sick... HMMM Cortisol breaks down Glutamine in the muscle maybe loading some glutamine and taking a 4DHEA product on days off will help.
I go to the gym today too, trying to figure out what to eat I think I am going to go ahead and start it off like another refeed while I wait to hear from Coach. It is 2-3 hours behind us in Alaska so not even sure if he is awake if it is a day off for him.
Montego1
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MrKleen73
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Refeed Day!!!!!!! BOOM SHAKALAKA!!! I have been informed today is another day to refeed and undo any damage from being ill this week. Lost a total of 6.5 lbs this week. I have 100g fats and as many carbs as I can get in body today at my disposal! Also going to load up on about 20 grams of glutamine on top of what is in my food and protein powder. Today is going to be a good day!!!!
I will be heading to the gym in a few hours. Also contemplating a run with GVT since it will keep my weights light so I don't injure any of the spots that seem to be on the brink of injury.
I will be heading to the gym in a few hours. Also contemplating a run with GVT since it will keep my weights light so I don't injure any of the spots that seem to be on the brink of injury.
MrKleen73
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I've got 30 new lbs..... I could lend you some
Sure however I must warn you that I am only accepting muscle at the moment. Still game?
Damn Man 30 lbs and still some ab lines is just beast mode!
wasme
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I am sure that is going to be some menu... damn!
MrKleen73
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Going to see how much I can get in via rice type stuff, of course there will be some sweets in there and some frozen yogurt. I made a thing of fat free rice pudding last night too so that will be good. Probably toss in some sweet potatoes with honey and stuff as well.