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PES Norcodrene ??

It definitely hits faster when you down the straight powder...which does not taste bad, BTW. Today I used the remainder of a dose in cap form and it took a little longer to kick in. The unpleasant feel I had on the previous doses actually came 5-7 hours later.
 
It definitely hits faster when you down the straight powder...which does not taste bad, BTW. Today I used the remainder of a dose in cap form and it took a little longer to kick in. The unpleasant feel I had on the previous doses actually came 5-7 hours later.

Sadly, i have to break capsules apart because i have a mental block on swallowing pills. Most stuff ive taken doesnt taste bad especially when you add it to alphamine. Ive taken erase, agmatine, ALCAR, Forskolin, and Anabeta elite by breaking the caps apart and sticking them in some drink concoction. One thing though i dont advise is breaking apart anabeta elite. Nastiest thing ive ever had to drink. Bitter as all get out!
 
Sadly, i have to break capsules apart because i have a mental block on swallowing pills. Most stuff ive taken doesnt taste bad especially when you add it to alphamine. Ive taken erase, agmatine, ALCAR, Forskolin, and Anabeta elite by breaking the caps apart and sticking them in some drink concoction. One thing though i dont advise is breaking apart anabeta elite. Nastiest thing ive ever had to drink. Bitter as all get out!

I had a problem a few years ago with swallowing pills.

I found that using a swig of a carbonated drink (just enough to cover the pill in my mouth) helped get the pill down, along with shaking my head back and positioning the pill in my mouth. I looked like an idiot doing this and I still do it sometimes to this day but I can swallow pills now.
 
I had a problem a few years ago with swallowing pills. I found that using a swig of a carbonated drink (just enough to cover the pill in my mouth) helped get the pill down, along with shaking my head back and positioning the pill in my mouth. I looked like an idiot doing this and I still do it sometimes to this day but I can swallow pills now.

Thanks. Might try that! Buy honestly ive gotten so used to breaking up the caps, it doesnt even bother me anymore.
 
It definitely hits faster when you down the straight powder...which does not taste bad, BTW. Today I used the remainder of a dose in cap form and it took a little longer to kick in. The unpleasant feel I had on the previous doses actually came 5-7 hours later.

I am not doubting your experience, but a capsule should prolong effects by 5-7 minutes, not 5-7 hours
 
I am not doubting your experience, but a capsule should prolong effects by 5-7 minutes, not 5-7 hours

This.

You can semi test (not really but hear me out) how fast a cap breaks just by swirling it in water for a bit. You'll notice it degrades rather quickly.

Now imagine that same cap in hydrochloric acid. Lol
 
This.

You can semi test (not really but hear me out) how fast a cap breaks just by swirling it in water for a bit. You'll notice it degrades rather quickly.

Now imagine that same cap in hydrochloric acid. Lol

same can be said when you put it in your mouth, and sometimes can start to taste the powder after seconds.
 
same can be said when you put it in your mouth, and sometimes can start to taste the powder after seconds.

And you will usually know immediately why it was capped and not just powdered ha.
 
I am not doubting your experience, but a capsule should prolong effects by 5-7 minutes, not 5-7 hours

Poor explanation on my part, actually. I did not mean to imply there was a difference in when I felt unpleasant effects after the first two doses...the unpleasantness I just chalk up to Y, based on past experiences.

The overall stim effect after taking either powder or capsule Norco varied by 20 minutes or so. I may have taken the cap with food as well, slowing the absorption rate and making for a more pleasant ride.
 
It definitely hits faster when you down the straight powder...which does not taste bad, BTW. Today I used the remainder of a dose in cap form and it took a little longer to kick in. The unpleasant feel I had on the previous doses actually came 5-7 hours later.

Norcodrene definitely kicks in much slower than Alphamine, but it lasts much longer as well. Its both the capsule, and the formula. Thats why they are both great products...different strokes for different folks
 
PES sent me an Slphamine sample with my Norcodrene, they are asking me to stack them :)
 
My shipment arrived a few days ago finally gave it a go today.
I've been cutting using OEP (old stuff w/ DMAA), 12.5mg Ephedrine, DCP2.0, and Forskolin. Made great progress so far with this stack but the OEP stim effect seems weaker than I remember from a few years ago so I decided to switch it up and try out the Norco in place of it and the Ephedrine. I'll probably add in AT2 if 1 cap of Norco doesn't over stimulate me.

This morning I popped a Norco and the DCP + F95. Wow. Energy was fantastic, seemed to get me going more than the OEP + E. Great long lasting energy, seemed to last around 6-7 hours. It was very smooth and no crash whatsoever. It definitely upped my mood, I wouldn't say euphoric but just in a happier mind set. Seemed very focused and motivated to get things done this morning, run errands, pay bills, clean house, etc. It absolutely crushed my appetite, I had to force myself to eat.

I decided to give my girlfriend one this morning as well. She loved it, once it started kicking in she was telling me to buy more lol. Elevated her mood, lots of energy and crushed her appetite as well. She wakes up starving in the mornings and once it started kicking in she forgot she was hungry for about 3-4 hours. She decided to start cooking up several meals for the next 3-4 days which she normally never does. The BEST part was she even cleaned up after herself! Normally she leaves dirty dishes, pots, pans, etc everywhere.

I'm very impressed with Norco so far. Clean energy, no jitters, no crash, elevated mood and motivation. I also noticed things that would stress me out or give me anxiety are gone. Quite the opposite of DMAA products. Awesome job PES You did it again!
 
My shipment arrived a few days ago finally gave it a go today.
I've been cutting using OEP (old stuff w/ DMAA), 12.5mg Ephedrine, DCP2.0, and Forskolin. Made great progress so far with this stack but the OEP stim effect seems weaker than I remember from a few years ago so I decided to switch it up and try out the Norco in place of it and the Ephedrine. I'll probably add in AT2 if 1 cap of Norco doesn't over stimulate me.

This morning I popped a Norco and the DCP + F95. Wow. Energy was fantastic, seemed to get me going more than the OEP + E. Great long lasting energy, seemed to last around 6-7 hours. It was very smooth and no crash whatsoever. It definitely upped my mood, I wouldn't say euphoric but just in a happier mind set. Seemed very focused and motivated to get things done this morning, run errands, pay bills, clean house, etc. It absolutely crushed my appetite, I had to force myself to eat.

I decided to give my girlfriend one this morning as well. She loved it, once it started kicking in she was telling me to buy more lol. Elevated her mood, lots of energy and crushed her appetite as well. She wakes up starving in the mornings and once it started kicking in she forgot she was hungry for about 3-4 hours. She decided to start cooking up several meals for the next 3-4 days which she normally never does. The BEST part was she even cleaned up after herself! Normally she leaves dirty dishes, pots, pans, etc everywhere.

I'm very impressed with Norco so far. Clean energy, no jitters, no crash, elevated mood and motivation. I also noticed things that would stress me out or give me anxiety are gone. Quite the opposite of DMAA products. Awesome job PES You did it again!

Great feedback!

Girlfriend approved!
 
I'm on day 6 of Norco @ 3 caps/day. Safe to say since it is yet to suppress my appetite, it won't have that effect on me. I think its actually making me more hungry as I think about my next meal as soon as I finish the previous one. The Diablo I ordered from NP has not come in yet so I have not been able to experiment with combining these 2 but I think they are going to make a potent combo as the only overlapping ingredient is caffeine and at 2 pills of norco/ 1 scoop of Diablo, I can tolerate that amount of caffeine with no problem..More interested in getting the other ingredients in my body. Diet has been really good and workouts are going well so that is all I really care about. Like I said, the appetite thing isn't a big deal to me and the energy is subtle/clean which I like.
 
I'm on day 6 of Norco @ 3 caps/day. Safe to say since it is yet to suppress my appetite, it won't have that effect on me. I think its actually making me more hungry as I think about my next meal as soon as I finish the previous one. The Diablo I ordered from NP has not come in yet so I have not been able to experiment with combining these 2 but I think they are going to make a potent combo as the only overlapping ingredient is caffeine and at 2 pills of norco/ 1 scoop of Diablo, I can tolerate that amount of caffeine with no problem..More interested in getting the other ingredients in my body. Diet has been really good and workouts are going well so that is all I really care about. Like I said, the appetite thing isn't a big deal to me and the energy is subtle/clean which I like.

I didnt think it surpressed my appitite either but i've noticed that since i started that i eat less per day. I dont keep track of macros per se but i've been eating around 2 big meals per day, breakfast Around 9am, norco @2pm and dinner at around 6:30-7pm and its becoming alot more manageable. I stopped taking creatine when i started norco and my body mass has gone down considerably. May be time to start forcefeeding
 
I have been saying the whole time that this stuff has me eating much more than before I started it. With that being said I there has still been a major reduction in my stomach and love handles.. This might be a winner.
 
I find peoples appetite reactions to different things fascinating.

Anyone noticing any cool benefits pre-training?

Same here. The human body is quite interesting to say the least. People using the same product and some talking about being MORE hungry while others talking about having no appetite at all. The effects of these things (supplements) are just mind blowing in how people react differently to them.
 
Same here. The human body is quite interesting to say the least. People using the same product and some talking about being MORE hungry while others talking about having no appetite at all. The effects of these things (supplements) are just mind blowing in how people react differently to them.

It is quite interesting. It is always fun to see how different some of my clients reactions are from one another.
 
I have been taking 3 a day since Sunday, for me the appetite suppressing is decent. The best quality for me is the focus in the gym and improved performance. I have 3 bottles and am using them for my cut
 
I have been taking 3 a day since Sunday, for me the appetite suppressing is decent. The best quality for me is the focus in the gym and improved performance. I have 3 bottles and am using them for my cut

I have been hearing lots of great feedback in regards to performance.
 
It is weird that different people have different reactions to the same chemicals..
The appetite suppression took about a week to kick in for me..
At first I was like.. "This sh*t ain't doing anything!" Then one day it all hit me like a brick wall
 
Finally :) thanks EBF! I'll hit you up pm about log details


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Oh I forgot to mention that there is no stim dick with norco. In fact the opposite! Far superior to DMAA products imo
 
It is weird that different people have different reactions to the same chemicals..
The appetite suppression took about a week to kick in for me..
At first I was like.. "This sh*t ain't doing anything!" Then one day it all hit me like a brick wall

Nomilin and cirisum japonicum may take a few days/weeks to kick in. This isn't your typical stimmed burner. There's things going on in the background whether you feel them initially or not
 
Oh I forgot to mention that there is no stim dick with norco. In fact the opposite! Far superior to DMAA products imo
As companies will tell you, finding anything which surpasses DMAA is a challenge so I am really pleased you prefer this. :)
 
Oh I forgot to mention that there is no stim dick with norco. In fact the opposite! Far superior to DMAA products imo
As companies will tell you, finding anything which surpasses DMAA is a challenge so I am really pleased you prefer this. :)
Agreed! Thank you for the feedback. Glad you are enjoying it so much!
 
Norco +mr Hyde+hemavol+amino iv+no3 drive from prosupps, insane !!!! my appetite has been crushed went from 350 carbs to 250-270 a day sometimes even 225-200 a day. Great job guys I'm picking up some more when I get my taxes.
 
Higenamine, yohimbe, and amentoflavone all increase erectile function, so this is no surprise :D


Quite possibly your magnum opus...They should just give you your pHD for free;)

Took another ½ dose preWO yesterday. Had a decent WO, sweat more than usual, was initially in a great mood then got rather irritable. Phoenix people driving like douches in the snow was the primer, then New Year's resolution fools in the gym lit the fuse. By the time I hit the locker room, the corpulent singing elderly man who wouldn't allow me ingress to my locker really just had me somewhere between smoldering contempt and outright hostility. Is that Norco's doing? I dunno, but I report the facts as I feel them:)
 
Has the UK profile been released yet? :)

Not publicly, no.

We have emailed our distributor to say it is ready. If you want it promptly it would be a wise idea for you to email them requesting it. It makes them more likely to put an order in quickly. :)

When Ben sends the US PES Clothing :)

I can send you some of my custom made ones in return for your baked goods.

How many of Chef Bob's cakes can I get for $20? Will they arrive here in one piece? ;)
 
Will they arrive here in one piece? ;)

Chances are they won't arrive at all... Mailmen smell that stuff out and poof. It's gone. I know from experience. I tried to mail my buddy a Taco Bell gift card and all he got was an empty envelope ha. They know what's good.
 
Not publicly, no.

We have emailed our distributor to say it is ready. If you want it promptly it would be a wise idea for you to email them requesting it. It makes them more likely to put an order in quickly. :)



I can send you some of my custom made ones in return for your baked goods.

How many of Chef Bob's cakes can I get for $20? Will they arrive here in one piece? ;)
Therein lies the conundrum. If I don't know if the profile is any good or not, why would i request it? :D

Really wish PES was carried in more places in the UK. Predator effectively having a monopoly on some of the products is not good.
 
Good question
i would be considered about the baked goods going a lil stale going so far
i ship them to people around the US up aroud the NE, but dont want to let them ship for more than 3 days. dont know how they would hold up TBH
 
So...I would pay a crap ton for an xlt pes tank. Make it. There is literally no xlt tanks out there. I'm 6'5....fml. have to wear a 2xl sleeveless shirt so when I'm doing pull ups it's not a belly shirt.
 
I'm guessing everyone is taking it during a cut? Anyone taking it during pct?
Wouldn't be worth it IMO on PCT. I like a cortisol blocker, forskolin 95, and yohimbe along with the SERM and AI

I'll probably try it on my next cut.
 
Wouldn't be worth it IMO on PCT. I like a cortisol blocker, forskolin 95, and yohimbe along with the SERM and AI I'll probably try it on my next cut.

It would if you had been on a cutting cycle. A bulk, no cuz you'd prob lose too much of your gains but a cutter it would compliment.
 
Yea that's why I asked. Supposedly it's gives you descent strength gains and all. On Recomp or cutting cycle it might be good in pct along with the usual.
 
It would if you had been on a cutting cycle. A bulk, no cuz you'd prob lose too much of your gains but a cutter it would compliment.

Idk ABE + Norcodrene might be an interesting recomp or lean bulk. Hmmmmm...
 
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