What is Synthetic Supplements?

daft205 said:
Well on that note I think a high quality curcumin extract as well as a cissus(something similiar or better than supercissus) would be worth looking into. I know similiar items are available elsewhere but I know I as well as others would love to your unique twist on these tried and true compounds.
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I already put the cissus suggestion out there and got shot down. but maybe with a high enough demand....
 
Any of the -racetams. Piracetam, oxiracetam, pramiracetam please!
 
sidoious said:
Any of the -racetams. Piracetam, oxiracetam, pramiracetam please!
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I would love to see the racetams come out... but if I remember correctly all of them are on the hot seat right now. Something Natty might not want to invest in if there is a hazy future.
 
DAdams91982 said:
I would love to see the racetams come out... but if I remember correctly all of them are on the hot seat right now. Something Natty might not want to invest in if there is a hazy future.
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Yeah, its unfortunate. I love some Piracetam.
 
DAdams91982 said:
I would love to see the racetams come out... but if I remember correctly all of them are on the hot seat right now. Something Natty might not want to invest in if there is a hazy future.
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They, like TTA and DMAA, have a big bullseye of them right now, sadly.
 
Royd The Noyd said:
What do you like about it? We have a ton of coptidis rhizoma it in FRL Alpha Mass, and it's quite similar if i remember correctly.
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Honestly I am not sure what similarities exist between the two sources although I am sure they do share a majority of the benefits. I would just like to see a berberine that is from one source rather than multiple sources, such as NPs yellow gold, and if I remember correctly chinese goldthread has the longest history in ayurvedic and chinese medicines which is why I leaned towards that as the source. Overall I am a longtime fan of berberine, plus I HATE capping yellow gold so if it was available in caps already it would be great but mainly my motive here is to see if there is a difference between berberine from one source (chinese goldthread) over berberine from multiple sources (yellow gold).

DAdams91982 said:
Are you looking for the Berberine content?
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Yes
 
Rodja said:
They, like TTA and DMAA, have a big bullseye of them right now, sadly.
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People have been saying that about tta for years now. However anyone who sells it should have a fairly strong case as to why it can qualify as a dietary supplement based on current FDA guidelines. I suspect this is why it is still around. Ostarine on the other hand... Well good luck.
 
i would love me some LCLT l carnitine l tartrate. Powder no problem but i would love it was legit and 3rd party tested certificate would be nice. Currently tried the nutraplanet stract and is bunk man, it smells strong fish and it didn't perform as well.
I swear by athletic xtreme lclt is the best in the industry. Their titanium and formula x has them and everytime im on that i have some damn crazy leaning that is not usual with a maintenance and bulking diets. And ive tried the daa and testofen stacks before with bulk lclt from nutra and is NOTHING close to what i get with athletix.

I blame it on their LCLT. So since i can put my trust in pes and now synthetic, i would definitely go with lclt by you guys.

I also like the ecdy extract idea that's been trhown around sound very promising of this particular extract.

my 2 suggestions right there
 
Love the suggestions guys. The beauty of Synthetic Supplements is we can cater for demand rather than PES products which are designed to be innovative. If there is an ingredient out there that you want post it up here and see if you get support.
 
bdcc said:
Love the suggestions guys. The beauty of Synthetic Supplements is we can cater for demand rather than PES products which are designed to be innovative. If there is an ingredient out there that you want post it up here and see if you get support.
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Something similar to the old VAT Attack.
 
JudoJosh said:
Honestly I am not sure what similarities exist between the two sources although I am sure they do share a majority of the benefits. I would just like to see a berberine that is from one source rather than multiple sources, such as NPs yellow gold, and if I remember correctly chinese goldthread has the longest history in ayurvedic and chinese medicines which is why I leaned towards that as the source. Overall I am a longtime fan of berberine, plus I HATE capping yellow gold so if it was available in caps already it would be great but mainly my motive here is to see if there is a difference between berberine from one source (chinese goldthread) over berberine from multiple sources (yellow gold).

Yes
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I second this... Capping yellow gold sucks...
 
Bulk green tea extract. Antioxidants+caffeine=Healthy mans energy!
Not sure how many others regularly take this though.
 
Dat dere Bulk Cell-Tech!!!!



But in all seriousness...
Bulk Banaba with a higher than 20% Corsolic Acid (not sure if possible)
Bulk Epimedium (Ridiculous pumps with Agmatine!!)
Bulk Sustamine
Bulk Glycine/GMS
Bulk Curcumin
Bulk Ubiquinol
Bulk Resveratrol


Did I leave anything out?
 
JonRubio said:
Bulk Gymnema sylvestre and Anacyclus pyrethrum
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If only we had a supplement with Anacyclus Pyrethrum as a single ingredient already! ;)

Unless you mean you want it in 1000 capsule containers lol.
 
T-Bone said:
Just kilo powder tubs, similar to bulk modern bcaa packaging.
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That would be one bloody expensive tub lol.

I am definitely game though- if only for the rep packages. If AnaBeta was in a powder I would sprinkle it on my omelette.
 
bigdavid said:
I found a website in australia that sells but AA... but Idk if it would get through customs lol.
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Hey... It might. Australia only got tough customs going in. USA will let it go ;)
 
3clipseGT said:
Have you used it?
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AA is one of the best supplements I have ever used for recomp, I was so impressed yet Ill never use it again.

Dunno if its my age (35) or just that Im more sensitive but the stuff makes gives me too many joint issues that I cant take it anymore.

Id def say if you can respond well that its an impressive product well worth the money if your seeking results.
 
T-Bone said:
I don't care to. It just doesn't make much sense to me, it is something I would rather avoid.
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You get 75mg of AA per egg, it even has some health benefits. Its really not something to be thinking or trying to make sense, but rather what the scientific data shows on supplementing with larger amounts in short cycles.
 
ax1 said:
You get 75mg of AA per egg, it even has some health benefits. Its really not something to be thinking or trying to make sense, but rather what the scientific data shows on supplementing with larger amounts in short cycles.
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Why not just eat eggs then?. I eat a ton of eggs. Also I already have joint problems. Several years ago I was told that I had the beginning stages of Arthritis in both my knees.
 
Maybe this should be discussed with MN rather than in this thread lol.
 
T-Bone said:
Why not just eat eggs then?. I eat a ton of eggs. Also I already have joint problems. Several years ago I was told that I had the beginning stages of Arthritis in both my knees.
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Personally I wouldnt be eating that many eggs consistently every single day, and it does help to consume a heft dose pre-workout which isnt ideal to eat that many eggs at that time.

I totally understand the joint issues, reasoning I said I would never use it again a couple posts previously.
 
bdcc said:
Maybe this should be discussed with MN rather than in this thread lol.
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You guys always trying to invade my country, the least I can do is invade a thread in return, lol

Chocomine....capped and standalone. I heard that stuff at a high enough dose is very good. If capped I would buy not crazy about powdered sources.
 
daft205 said:
Yep- id be all over this! We really need a a high quality full spectrum rce standalone- tell you what, nearly everyone who's read the blueprint would be interested.
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daft205 said:
Well on that note I think a high quality curcumin extract as well as a cissus(something similiar or better than supercissus) would be worth looking into. I know similiar items are available elsewhere but I know I as well as others would love to your unique twist on these tried and true compounds.
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ICJLM said:
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Even better still would be if synthetic supps could come out with bulk caps of 5a-hydroxy-laxogenin and 25r-diol in appropriate doses! That would be awesome! Both ingredients are very hard to come by though, especially the 5a-hydroxy-laxogenin.
 
daft205 said:
Even better still would be if synthetic supps could come out with bulk caps of 5a-hydroxy-laxogenin and 25r-diol in appropriate doses! That would be awesome! Both ingredients are very hard to come by though, especially the 5a-hydroxy-laxogenin.
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The one Laxogenin product that I know of (standalone) was recently found to be bunk crap.

We really need 3rd party testing with stuff on every batch.
 
ax1 said:
The one Laxogenin product that I know of (standalone) was recently found to be bunk crap.

We really need 3rd party testing with stuff on every batch.
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Yeah iron mag labs claim to have synthesized it and now put it in their halodrol product. I would really love to see a solid company like synthetic(with pes backing them) take a shot at this difficult and complex ingredient as I think it could be an excellent anabolic/ergogenic aid.
 
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