They have some good products and had some good inner circle deals. I always wait till it goes on sale before I buy so I get decent value... I would sign up but already logging Forma Stanzol, N2-Burn, Phytoserms and about 3.5 weeks out of contest.
This is nice to hear. Very few companies seem to involve the UK with testing and sampling.
I went onto your forum to register my interest as a beta tester and saw something like 35 pages. I thought I would save my 2 minutes and wait for reviews lol.
There was a very strong competitor campaign against it online. There is a very strong competitor campaign for all our new releases.
I would say it failed here and at bb.com but outside of the internet we move a ton of it.
We have a very small advertising budget and customer base but one of the largest companies in the industry. Repeat business is a hallmark of the company.
With all that said, bottom line is product performance is the ulimate judge.
This is nice to hear. Very few companies seem to involve the UK with testing and sampling.
I went onto your forum to register my interest as a beta tester and saw something like 35 pages. I thought I would save my 2 minutes and wait for reviews lol.
I really hope this is a great product. That's what I hope every time I see something brought to market, regardless of the company, because if that's the case, then the consumer wins.
I've used virtually (if not) every USP supplement. Jack3d made me fall in love and gave me some amazing workouts. OEP was intense and a great fat burner. Recreate was a very solid fat burner in my time off from OEP. ModernBCAA is a great product and the only thing I didn't like was that 2 scoops (good sized scooper) equaled 1 serving; but that's just a very minimal complaint. I enjoyed Anabolic Pump and P-Slin and for quite a while, wouldn't eat carb meals without them. PowerFull gave me insane dreams and great rest. It was hard for me to tell if SCRx ever did much for me or not (I didn't have many joint issues, so I wasn't looking for much). Prime gave me some amazing results when dosed 6-9 (I'm talking benching 365 for reps, which was a huge gain for me). I beta tested Yok3d and unfortunately, I didn't seem to respond to it. I had one workout that seemed to suit me well, but the rest it just didn't do much. Oh well; one product out of all those that didn't work isn't that big of a deal.
I was disappointed, though, when I saw how others were responding that I was getting nothing at all and their results were just amazing, according to them. What really killed me, though, and this is no fault of USP's, is that a tester talked with me and said he wasn't getting much in terms of results, either. You'd never know that from his log, though. That guy made it sound like the best thing on earth, but apparently it really wasn't, from what he told me after reading my log, which was completely honest. Like I said, that is in no way USP's fault, because Casey, Jacob and everyone else didn't say one bad thing about my log being honest and me not seeing optimal results from the product.
The one that really just upset me, though, was Pink Magic. I was lucky enough to beta test it, as well (my first ever sponsored log, to boot, so I'm gracious to USP for that opportunity). It was an insane month and I dropped 6.4 lbs in those 4 weeks while adding 5-10 lbs on every single lift I did in that time. I couldn't talk that product up enough and the before/afters for that tell the story, too. I had never really had veins pop before and I did on Pink Magic. I was telling everyone I knew how this was the best thing to ever touch the market. I bought 4 bottles of it, I was so excited. And then a few weeks later, when I started back up on it. I kept waiting for it to kick in and it never did. The beta version was just 1 active ingredient and the retail version was 3 ingredients. I don't know why you'd change something that was so perfect. I know it was said it would be better, but it wasn't -- for me, at least. I won't get into any more with ingredients or doses, because I can't recall off the top of my head if any of that information is considered confidential at this point in time.
I say all of this, just to share my experience with the company. Like I said, I hope this product is absolutely awesome. But I'll be hesitant for a while, now after my experience with Pink Magic from beta to retail.
Recreate was good stuff. Anabolic Pump was ok, Pslin was better. SuperCissusRX hasn't done anything I notice so far and I've been on it two months. I still have some Pink Magic but it gave me side effects. Might try it again in a few months and see. Never tried Cracked3d as I don't like feeling like my heart is about to beat out of my chest, not the best feeling or the kind of feeling you want before working out. Maybe this stuff will be good, but it won't be as good as the advertisements will say it is......"Jacob WTF is in this sh*T?. I took those blue pills you left me to try. Now I feel like I can lift a freaking truck!. I've got veins popping out on my calves!. Deadlifted 450 for 60 reps and then went home, had a steak and ravaged the wife!. I need more now.!"
Recreate was good stuff. Anabolic Pump was ok, Pslin was better. SuperCissusRX hasn't done anything I notice so far and I've been on it two months. I still have some Pink Magic but it gave me side effects. Might try it again in a few months and see. Never tried Cracked3d as I don't like feeling like my heart is about to beat out of my chest, not the best feeling or the kind of feeling you want before working out. Maybe this stuff will be good, but it won't be as good as the advertisements will say it is......"Jacob WTF is in this sh*T?. I took those blue pills you left me to try. Now I feel like I can lift a freaking truck!. I've got veins popping out on my calves!. Deadlifted 450 for 60 reps and then went home, had a steak and ravaged the wife!. I need more now.!"
Maybe this stuff will be good, but it won't be as good as the advertisements will say it is......"Jacob WTF is in this sh*T?. I took those blue pills you left me to try. Now I feel like I can lift a freaking truck!. I've got veins popping out on my calves!. Deadlifted 450 for 60 reps and then went home, had a steak and ravaged the wife!. I need more now.!"
That is not the fault of USP, though. If I was in charge of a company and someone was saying those kind of things about using one of my product's, you better believe that I'd be putting it out there for everyone to see. Now if people are fabricating the results, then that is on them. It's hard to police that unless you send out a control batch, wait for the placebo group to post those type of statements and then call them out on it (which isn't ideal for the company-customer relationship).
People think they'll get sponsorship deals from companies for some reason if they over-exaggerate stuff like this and it's in poor taste on their part and all it does is hurt their fellow consumers.
I said some pretty outlandish things about the Pink Magic beta version, though, and I meant every single one of them. I'm just disappointed what was brought to market was different than what I tested and gave me such amazing results.
lol far from it. I was only disappointed to be given a fantastic product to try and see something completely different go to market.
And in case anyone isn't aware, bdcc, myself and a few others joke around a lot (see thread: "Never Trust Milas about RecoverPro"), so that's the attitude we share toward each other. But what I've posted in this thread has been very sincere.
^^ thats the same experience I had. I thought the beta test was phenomenal and had a great time but the retail version did jack sh!t for me. I agree at the disappointment-- I felt duped for sure. I was like you and talked up PM to my friends and then not just them, but I too saw nothing from the retail version.
It really turns you off to a produt. I sometimes wonder what upping the dosage to meet the beta test levels of the main ingredient would do but IIRC it wasn't supposed to be that much different of a dose so who knows. It sometimes feels like there is no way that the beta and the retail had the same ingredient in the
Maybe this stuff will be good, but it won't be as good as the advertisements will say it is......"Jacob WTF is in this sh*T?. I took those blue pills you left me to try. Now I feel like I can lift a freaking truck!. I've got veins popping out on my calves!. Deadlifted 450 for 60 reps and then went home, had a steak and ravaged the wife!. I need more now.!"
Pink Magic Beta was weird for me, there was a very brief period where my strength went wayyy up but it didn't last and slowly disipated. I thought the changes they made were to make it more consistant. One thing about the beta, it was a super nutrient repartitioner. I didn't get much from the commercial version either. Prime was good for me for quite a few runs but lately not so much. I am wondering if the body builds up some kind of resistance.
Couldn't agree more!! However, the flip side is that those same companies shouldn't be pissed when the marketing works as strategically planned.....people fall for said marketing strategies.......same people don't get the results they were assured they'd recieve.....and then (God forbid) TURN ON the company that authored the false advertisements.
PS: My comments are universal.....for all companies and NOT just USP.
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