So instead of creating a new thread, I'll bump this one.
Whats the latest feedback on Leucine supplementation and fat loss? I recently picked up a tub of leucine, and have been dosing 5g with morning shake, pre and post workout, and with bedtime whey shake. I've been reading conflicting info.
Most of what I know is that leucine needs the other 2 BCAAs present to do what it needs to do. So even in an 8:1:1 type ratio, you're good, but 8:0:0 won't yield the same positive results. Just what I've read.
Theoretically amino acids on free form, singly, without forming di or tripeptides with other, have impaired absorption. This is due to the type of carrier for amino acids we have in the intestine.
Most of what I know is that leucine needs the other 2 BCAAs present to do what it needs to do. So even in an 8:1:1 type ratio, you're good, but 8:0:0 won't yield the same positive results. Just what I've read.
Hmm interesting, I've been using 4:1:1 RecoverPRO, been dosing about 8 scoops a day, so far, so good!
I know leucine with Whey is beneficial pre and post workout, but is at all really beneficial with wake up shake, and pre-bed?
Leucine makes for an excellent wake up ****tail due to it's very anti-catabolic properties. I am not a fan of elevated insulin levelsn pre-bad as they "may" adversely impact GH levels.
How would it be any different than the advice to limit carb intake immediately pre-bed for the same rationale?
Insulin antagonizes GH and therefore adversely affects secretion/release.
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It wouldn't be any different. Again, these transient fluctuations in GH are irrelevant for body composition.
what about for recovery?
Well ****, i've been taking leucine alone for about a month. Leucine + whey is alright though, correct?
Interesting...
So how would you daily supplement it?
Nope, no point. Whey maximizes MPS alone. Preventing the refractory response is a moot goal.
You are SUPPOSED to take leucine alone! Don't let the bros get to you man. You only need the other BCAAs if there are ZERO ffAAs circulating in your system (aka very low meal frequency like IFing). If you ate a chicken breast 2-3 hours ago, you can bet those aminos are still available. Thus, take the leucine alone unless fasted.
Imo I would mix peanut butter shake and leucine