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EPI/V, PCT Revolution Black Contest Prep!! Watch an Old Fugger Cheat Time!!!

Yesterday's eating

2 cups salad greens
14 oz chicken
3 oz low fat yogurt
1 Nectarine
1 large plum

After workout
3 servings whey concentrate

One hour later
6 turkey sausages
8 egg whites
4 cups Frozen yogurt

Today
Noon
2 cups salad greens
12 oz chicken
3 oz low fat yogurt
1 Nectarine
1 large plum
1 Orange

5pm
16 oz Tilapia
1.5 cups rice
2 cups broccolli

8 pm 6 whole eggs
 
Doug you have been adding muscle so your body is definitely going to need more calories to feed the new muscle.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Doug you have been adding muscle so your body is definitely going to need more calories to feed the new muscle.
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Good point. That's why I have sped up, have to watch that may have to increase cals before this is done.

Getting my PCT ironed out now just wanted this in my log to see it on paper to figure it out..

Tor, S1, Testopro, Stoked, PCT Black, DAA (if I don't have enough black t run 4 ed during PCT I may have) and Creatine Nitrate.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Good point. That's why I have sped up, have to watch that may have to increase cals before this is done.

Getting my PCT ironed out now just wanted this in my log to see it on paper to figure it out..

Tor, S1, Testopro, Stoked, PCT Black, DAA (if I don't have enough black t run 4 ed during PCT I may have) and Creatine Nitrate.
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Doug 2 PCT Black will be enough man, Chris and I both tried it at 2 per day and after about 4-5 days your joints are very dry. If you were coming off something like Max-LMG that will aromatise at a high rate, it might be needed but Epi-V is very dry. I am getting by with 2 Erase per day and am dry without any discomfort (while taking a natty t-boosters and the triptorelin 2 weekends ago). Just wanted to give you a heads up, the AI in PCT Black is VERY potent.
 
oufinny said:
Doug 2 PCT Black will be enough man, Chris and I both tried it at 2 per day and after about 4-5 days your joints are very dry. If you were coming off something like Max-LMG that will aromatise at a high rate, it might be needed but Epi-V is very dry. I am getting by with 2 Erase per day and am dry without any discomfort (while taking a natty t-boosters and the triptorelin 2 weekends ago). Just wanted to give you a heads up, the AI in PCT Black is VERY potent.
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The more research I do and testimonials I here on top of what I experienced when I did the 1-ANDRO/EPI-V run last Halloween, my joints did get very sore & stiff! I'm thinking they are right, but you might want to look into some PURE TEST to up your DAA with the 2 caps of PCT Black, just a thought!
 
oufinny said:
Doug 2 PCT Black will be enough man, Chris and I both tried it at 2 per day and after about 4-5 days your joints are very dry. If you were coming off something like Max-LMG that will aromatise at a high rate, it might be needed but Epi-V is very dry. I am getting by with 2 Erase per day and am dry without any discomfort (while taking a natty t-boosters and the triptorelin 2 weekends ago). Just wanted to give you a heads up, the AI in PCT Black is VERY potent.
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Then I'll run it 2 ed and add in extra DAA... I may extend the herbals past 4 weeks anyway so I can run the black for an extra couple of weeks.
 
ScottyDoc said:
The more research I do and testimonials I here on top of what I experienced when I did the 1-ANDRO/EPI-V run last Halloween, my joints did get very sore & stiff! I'm thinking they are right, but you might want to look into some PURE TEST to up your DAA with the 2 caps of PCT Black, just a thought!
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hah great minds think alike same conclusion almost simultaneously...
 
DreamWeaver said:
Then I'll run it 2 ed and add in extra DAA... I may extend the herbals past 4 weeks anyway so I can run the black for an extra couple of weeks.
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Also, Doug, you are so in tuned with your body, you can kind of dose it based on feel, ya know! I mean, yes, take the 2 caps/day, but if you find you are drying out too much, take a day off and resume at 1cap/day, if you feel the estrogen is high in your body take 4 one day and then resume at 3, nothing wrong with constantly adjusting your levels!

Chris, what do you think? Isn't this your plan of action with FINAFLEX PCT REV. Black?
 
ScottyDoc said:
Also, Doug, you are so in tuned with your body, you can kind of dose it based on feel, ya know! I mean, yes, take the 2 caps/day, but if you find you are drying out too much, take a day off and resume at 1cap/day, if you feel the estrogen is high in your body take 4 one day and then resume at 3, nothing wrong with constantly adjusting your levels!

Chris, what do you think? Isn't this your plan of action with FINAFLEX PCT REV. Black?
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Makes sense...
 
Yes, I plan to use it as needed. Since aromatase will be higher from the 1-Andro, I will start with a high dose for a day or two in order to attach to the extra aromatase created while on the 1-Andro. That should lower the amount of unbound aromatase, making a large dent in the ability to aromatize until those cells die. Once I do that I will go to 2 for a day or two then to 1 a day and stay there only adding more in if I notice any estro related sides. Since joints are already rough for me I am trying to limit how low I keep the estrogen. That and I will be taking Testopro too after the first week. It does not stop aromatization but it negates most of the negative effects of estrogen through estrogen modulation as opposed to inhibition. When it comes time to taper down farther I will go to 1 cap every other day for probably a week or so.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Yes, I plan to use it as needed. Since aromatase will be higher from the 1-Andro, I will start with a high dose for a day or two in order to attach to the extra aromatase created while on the 1-Andro. That should lower the amount of unbound aromatase, making a large dent in the ability to aromatize until those cells die. Once I do that I will go to 2 for a day or two then to 1 a day and stay there only adding more in if I notice any estro related sides. Since joints are already rough for me I am trying to limit how low I keep the estrogen. That and I will be taking Testopro too after the first week. It does not stop aromatization but it negates most of the negative effects of estrogen through estrogen modulation as opposed to inhibition. When it comes time to taper down farther I will go to 1 cap every other day for probably a week or so.
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A man with a plan... I still have better than 4 weeks to mull it over...
 
Not much to talk about concerning the workout as it's only day 2 of HST and the weight is still light, a bit of a better pump. There were about 4 to 5 striations in my shoulders as I continue to get lean and dry. There is one concern though, I lost another 1.5 lbs down to 202.5, I am losing a bit fast so I will make one small adjustment, I will add 200 cals on wod's bringing it back up to 3400 and keep burn days at 2200. My buddy at the gym is telling me to be careful cuz I am losing so fast but he really doesn't understand this kind of leaness. I am 12 weeks out and dipping under 6% though so time to slow the loss down some if I can.
 
The thing is that you will need to increase your carbs to be able to hold on to any water with the taraxicum, you will definitely see some large fluctuations due to it and carbs fighting each other one trying to pull water in and the other trying to excrete it. I would not make too many adjustments. If you can hit 5% then hold there for a month, playing with macros it can be done i did it for my comp. You are probably already pretty dry like you would be for your show due to the diuretic so I really doubt you will experience the WHOOSH effect of weight loss going into the peak weak, so what you are seeing now minue about 1-2 lb of body fat is probably what you will see on the day of the show when you are nice and dry.

Also I would expect a little water rebound in your PCT since you will no longer be taking a diuretic. So your body weight will probably go back up a little at that point.
 
MrKleen73 said:
The thing is that you will need to increase your carbs to be able to hold on to any water with the taraxicum, you will definitely see some large fluctuations due to it and carbs fighting each other one trying to pull water in and the other trying to excrete it. I would not make too many adjustments. If you can hit 5% then hold there for a month, playing with macros it can be done i did it for my comp. You are probably already pretty dry like you would be for your show due to the diuretic so I really doubt you will experience the WHOOSH effect of weight loss going into the peak weak, so what you are seeing now minue about 1-2 lb of body fat is probably what you will see on the day of the show when you are nice and dry.

Also I would expect a little water rebound in your PCT since you will no longer be taking a diuretic. So your body weight will probably go back up a little at that point.
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Yah I considered that and the small adjustment I am making should be ok, it's not a big adjustment and I am not touching my burn day... I am not seeing any real muscle loss so I am not panicing yet.

I am extending my fast again today as I am going to eat fairly big tonight (friends taking us to a buffet, not a chinese one) I will eat mostly meats though.
 
Nice! One of these days Matt and I are going to go to a Brazilian Buffet on a Build day and tear up all the meat they bring out.
 
MrKleen73 said:
Nice! One of these days Matt and I are going to go to a Brazilian Buffet on a Build day and tear up all the meat they bring out.
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Oh yah the Brazilian can't be beat for meat... lol I must have eaten over 2 lbs... man I'm getting hungry now...
 
MrKleen73 said:
Nice! One of these days Matt and I are going to go to a Brazilian Buffet on a Build day and tear up all the meat they bring out.
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Yeah that sounds like a good post leg or back workout plan to me!!!!!!
 
Oh yeah, just tear it up. Eat until we are stuffed then have a drink burp a few times and then eat some more!!! :)
 
oufinny said:
Yeah that sounds like a good post leg or back workout plan to me!!!!!!
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MrKleen73 said:
Oh yeah, just tear it up. Eat until we are stuffed then have a drink burp a few times and then eat some more!!! :)
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Tons of fun when you get your gorge on...

Had a bit of a carb up last night, fasted all day and pigged out. Looking damn good this morning. I think my carb up is going to be just fine. The show starts at 6pm so I have all day to flush and manage my intake. I will probably be able to handle it with some rice, just have to maintain my volume.
 
Just want to thank AM for the vote of confidence, apparently they're using my avi on the new iphone app...

I had an amazing workout today!! Still not too heavy but the reps were superb, squeezed the juice out of every last one!! Lookin big lean and mean with all my new striations. Have to do some manscaping and try to get some pics down next weekend!! I am not worried about size anymore, I was lookin huge!! Finished with 15 perfect reps on bar of death then a full ab weighted workout....I did 7 really nice pullups too. I am not going up in reps but they are definitely very good quality with a dead arm hang before each rep.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Just want to thank AM for the vote of confidence, apparently they're using my avi on the new iphone app...

I had an amazing workout today!! Still not too heavy but the reps were superb, squeezed the juice out of every last one!! Lookin big lean and mean with all my new striations. Have to do some manscaping and try to get some pics down next weekend!! I am not worried about size anymore, I was lookin huge!! Finished with 15 perfect reps on bar of death then a full ab weighted workout....I did 7 really nice pullups too. I am not going up in reps but they are definitely very good quality with a dead arm hang before each rep.
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Isn't it weird the way some exercises (pull-ups for me too) are just way harder for some people? I mean even when I was my leanest ever, I still could not just crank them out like some of the guys I've seen, I mean I knew this one guy, he could do pull-ups as easily and for high reps like I could do push-ups or un-weighted dips, he could just go and go and go and he was not a 100Lb stick either, he was about 5'10" muscular 180Lbs and around 10% BF.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Just want to thank AM for the vote of confidence, apparently they're using my avi on the new iphone app...

I had an amazing workout today!! Still not too heavy but the reps were superb, squeezed the juice out of every last one!! Lookin big lean and mean with all my new striations. Have to do some manscaping and try to get some pics down next weekend!! I am not worried about size anymore, I was lookin huge!! Finished with 15 perfect reps on bar of death then a full ab weighted workout....I did 7 really nice pullups too. I am not going up in reps but they are definitely very good quality with a dead arm hang before each rep.
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huge compliment, feels good doesnt it?

your hard work has paid off
 
ScottyDoc said:
Isn't it weird the way some exercises (pull-ups for me too) are just way harder for some people? I mean even when I was my leanest ever, I still could not just crank them out like some of the guys I've seen, I mean I knew this one guy, he could do pull-ups as easily and for high reps like I could do push-ups or un-weighted dips, he could just go and go and go and he was not a 100Lb stick either, he was about 5'10" muscular 180Lbs and around 10% BF.
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Well we both have long arms and I have the bad shoulder that acts up, shorter guys have a much easier time. I can do around 12-15 without the bad shoulder but that's not that great either. Another huge factor is leg size.

John Smeton said:
huge compliment, feels good doesnt it?

your hard work has paid off
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Yah it does feel good, thanks John...
 
Oh forgot to mention time to go heavy duty with the BCAA's I have been doing 12 grams pre intra a post and been mixing the Raspberry Recoverpro with the Lemon. Man you guys who have both flavors have to try this it's stellar...
 
Sounds good I need to hit Don back up I didn't get my samples.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Oh forgot to mention time to go heavy duty with the BCAA's I have been doing 12 grams pre intra a post and been mixing the Raspberry Recoverpro with the Lemon. Man you guys who have both flavors have to try this it's stellar...
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Agreed

MrKleen73 said:
Sounds good I need to hit Don back up I didn't get my samples.
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send me your name and address Chris.

Don is no longer with Ai. he works 16 hours a day and takes care of his Mom
 
Wow well hope he pops in from time to time. He will be missed.

Thanks John, Sent via Rep!
 
DreamWeaver said:
Oh forgot to mention time to go heavy duty with the BCAA's I have been doing 12 grams pre intra a post and been mixing the Raspberry Recoverpro with the Lemon. Man you guys who have both flavors have to try this it's stellar...
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I will have to try that. I picked both up in the 50% sale, and I love raspberry lemonade. Sounds like a great mix
 
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Doesn't look like I lost any size...
 

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nice haircut :D
 
DreamWeaver said:
That it is, add a couple ice cubes and it's just a great summer drink!!
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I need to try this being that I have both, just not at the same place (work and home). I look forward to my raspberry goodness every morning I have it, really is the best tasting BCAA drink on the market hands down.
 
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Doesn't look like I lost any size...
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Damn dude, you need to register those "DEADLY WEAPONS"!!!
 
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DreamWeaver said:
I was happy to see the size was still there.
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Size is definitely still there Bro, you are going to be a FORCE to be reckoned with on stage my friend, the base/standard by which all other participants will be judged if you ask me!
 
ScottyDoc said:
Size is definitely still there Bro, you are going to be a FORCE to be reckoned with on stage my friend, the base/standard by which all other participants will be judged if you ask me!
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Man that would be sweet!!
 
Ok 4th day at 15 reps on HST and still not very taxing I have very good power. I am kind of surprised I did not know I would be getting so much strength increase on EPI-V. I got 13 really nice wheel of death last night, short of my 15 last tuesday but I had 1 day less rest from my full ab workout on Saturday as I decided on Monday this week instead of Tuesday.

I was up about 1.25 lbs at weigh in but I may be holding a tad more water. Lots of trips to the bathroom after my workout. I am still very striated so no worries. If I can take it down to around 200 and sit at around 5% say 8 weeks out then I could still shoot for under 4%. I may got back to 3200 cals on workout days after Thursday, depends on what happens in the next couple of days.
 
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I bought some revamp to reset my adrenals but it doesn't say how long it takes for a full cleansing....does anybody know? I think it's similar to Reset AD.
 
A couple observations, I was a little wetter when I weighed in on monday and Revamp just rocks!! And it's cheap too.... I did a little experiment to see what 2 motivate would do and Adrenals are back baby!! After 3 days!! I knew something was up right away when the stim in the EPI-V was feeling strong. I wish I bought more... dollar for dollar one of the best supps I've ever used.
 
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