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Jack and 1MR illegal

ken22

ken22

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I heard today from a shop owner who sells both products that they will sometime both be illegal cuz they contrain products that damage the
liver. He said he could show me the report, but I take his word on it.
Just FYI and to see if anyone else had any info?
 
ken22 said:
I heard today from a shop owner who sells both products that they will sometime both be illegal cuz they contrain products that damage the
liver. He said he could show me the report, but I take his word on it.
Just FYI and to see if anyone else had any info?
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Please ask him to make a copy of this secretive report. I would love to see it. LOL creatine and beta alanine are hardcore drugs.
 
i heard 1mr tested positive for methyl test....not me saying this, read this or "heard", as far as jack3d, never heard anything on that, however there has been talks about banning 1-3 dimeth, it's already banned in most sports as far as i know
 
You know I be on the look out for them pre workout traffickers!!

Jack 3d is a class triple 735 G 14 felony look it up it's under the Aggravated malarkey section in the federal criminal code. True story and I'm sitting next to Obama he just told me this
 
ken22 said:
"1,3-dimtylamylamine illegal " posted in this forum already talks about this.
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It's a stimulant. People hear stimulant and think "omg speed". Someone should threaten to take their Starbucks away because those espressos have sTiMuLaNtS in them!
 
StakedCop said:
You know I be on the look out for them pre workout traffickers!!

Jack 3d is a class triple 735 G 14 felony look it up it's under section Aggravated malarkey section in the federal criminal code. True story and I'm sitting next to Obama he just told me this
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sh1t I heard that the makers of Jack3d and 1MR were 1-8-7'd by illegal cartel traffickers and that's why it's been banned.. It could explain why people at my gym have been free basing their pre workouts lately, and paying high dollar for little 1 gram baggies of creatine, dimeth, and the more uncommon AAKG...

:veryhappy:
 
The most dangerous part of 1,3 is the fact that it is a vasoconstrictor, which should not be used by people with hypertension, etc. But I don't see how it's dangerous to people who don't have medical ailments, and use products like this responsibly. Certainly isn't liver toxic, which takes me back to the original post to say that the store owner pulled that out of his backside... ;)
 
StakedCop said:
You know I be on the look out for them pre workout traffickers!!

Jack 3d is a class triple 735 G 14 felony look it up it's under the Aggravated malarkey section in the federal criminal code. True story and I'm sitting next to Obama he just told me this
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well tell that poor excuse for a president to start working on a budget for the country and stop banning supplements
 
bahahahaha dime bags of Jack3d would be so damn funny
 
Young Gotti said:
well tell that poor excuse for a president to start working on a budget for the country and stop banning supplements
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Yeah, because he is totally the one banning supplements... Also, congress is in charge of creating the balanced budget.

Nice try though.
 
Young Gotti said:
well tell that poor excuse for a president to start working on a budget for the country and stop banning supplements
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LOL I tried but he just keeps clapping and turning the red and blue lights on...

I'm just being funny please don't get upset!!! :D
 
When the black market for jack3d developes I'm going to make a fortune with those free
Jack3d I got from the IC deals, those fools muwahaha!
 
bikeswimlive said:
It's a stimulant. People hear stimulant and think "omg speed". Someone should threaten to take their Starbucks away because those espressos have sTiMuLaNtS in them!
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they would have a better chance of banning beer than starbucks, oh wait...they tried that already.

damned dumbasses can't enforce the laws already on the books, and they want to make more, geezus-war on drugs my ass.
 
StakedCop said:
You know I be on the look out for them pre workout traffickers!!

Jack 3d is a class triple 735 G 14 felony look it up it's under the Aggravated malarkey section in the federal criminal code. True story and I'm sitting next to Obama he just told me this
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StakedCop said:
LOL I tried but he just keeps clapping and turning the red and blue lights on...

I'm just being funny please don't get upset!!! :D
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:laugh2: and funny you are. your last 2 post :toofunny:
Thanks StakedCop, i needed that:cheers:
 
ken22 said:
I heard today from a shop owner who sells both products that they will sometime both be illegal cuz they contrain products that damage the
liver. He said he could show me the report, but I take his word on it.
Just FYI and to see if anyone else had any info?
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Theophylline (also known as dimethylxanthine, is a methylxanthine drug), 1MR has already been banned in Canada and Europa is considering banning them from whole sale distribution. These companies know full well what's going on, so I believe they deserve what they get.

In essence, no matter how it gets twisted and watered-down, these organizations are simply engaging in lying to consumers, selling illicit banned compounds willingly, and putting countless dedicated athlete's health at risk - all so they can offer a microscopic scooper without ANY efficacious clinical dosages of a single ergogenic compound, to keep their profit margins healthy, and their customers cracked out thinking they are gaining and realizing their ambitions.
 
i saw a study somewhere (cant remember where) saying that they couldnt even find 1,3dmaa in geranium at all and that it was just a way to get around the FDA. the stuff is a designer amphetamine... and it does act similar to speed but with a shorter time in the body. i personally love this stuff when used sparingly as it can take my motivation to a whole new level. it isnt the safest stuff out there but id say its safer than being obese. can we PLEASE ban obesity?
 
the store owner just wanted you to try another preworkout, possibly one he gets a comission kicker on
 
Outstanding said:
Theophylline (also known as dimethylxanthine, is a methylxanthine drug), 1MR has already been banned in Canada and Europa is considering banning them from whole sale distribution. These companies know full well what's going on, so I believe they deserve what they get.

In essence, no matter how it gets twisted and watered-down, these organizations are simply engaging in lying to consumers, selling illicit banned compounds willingly, and putting countless dedicated athlete's health at risk - all so they can offer a microscopic scooper without ANY efficacious clinical dosages of a single ergogenic compound, to keep their profit margins healthy, and their customers cracked out thinking they are gaining and realizing their ambitions.
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Does this post only apply to 1MR? or Jack3d too? I thought they removed the theoohylline in jack3d? Also i know its underdosed but not nearly as bad as 1MR is

And tnubs, i thought it wasnt an amphetamine based off it chemical structure? I enjoy the stuff too in certain products, some products like Mesomorph make me more wired then actuall amphetamines with a longer time lol. What makes me iffy is the research chem sites that sell other grey market designer amphetamines used by ppl to get high also sell dmaa too. im talking of mpvd, mcat, meph, bk-mdma ect.
 
Shock Therapy Supplement Facts
Serving Size:1 scoop (~20g)
Servings per Container: 50

Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
Calories 36
Total Carbohydrates 9g 3%
Dietary Fiber 2g 8%
Sugar 0g **
Vitamin C 200mg 333%
Niacin 10mg 50%
Vitamin B6 8mg 400%
VItamin B12 100mcg 1667%
Selenium 70mcg 100%
Sodium 117mg 5%
Potassium 59mg 2%
Shock Therapy Proprietary Formula 20g
No Super Pump Complex
Arginine AKG **
Citrulline Malate **
Carnosine **
Muscle Volumizing Complex
Tricreatine Malate **
Betaine Anhydrous **
Glycocyamine **
Nicotinamide Adenine Dinucleotide **
Energy & Nootropic Complex
L-Taurine **
Choline Bitartrate **
S-Methylxanthine Complex (caffeine,theobromine, theophylline) **
L-Tyrosine **
Yerba Mate **
Evodiamine (98% standardized extract) **
Vinpocetine **
Antioxidant Compleex
Green Tea Extract (standardized for 60% EGCG) **
R-ALA (R-alpha lipoic acid) **
NAC (N-acetyl cystene) **
Grapeseed Extract (standardized for 95% polyphenols) **
Electrolyte & PH Delivery Complex
Glucose Polymers **
Insulin **
Sodium Bicarbonate **
Potassium Phosphate **
Magnesium Phosphate **
Trisodium Phosphate **


I guess Universal doesn't rate the same scrutiny!
 
whoops, i remember when it first came out ppl were saying it was a designer amphetamine and someone else told me it was one molecule away... just looked at the actual structure for the first time and its not similar at all. my bad lol. very much missing the benzene ring.
 
StakedCop said:
You know I be on the look out for them pre workout traffickers!!

Jack 3d is a class triple 735 G 14 felony look it up it's under the Aggravated malarkey section in the federal criminal code. True story and I'm sitting next to Obama he just told me this
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:yup: I like Rush Hour, too. :yup:
 
Outstanding said:
Theophylline (also known as dimethylxanthine, is a methylxanthine drug), 1MR has already been banned in Canada and Europa is considering banning them from whole sale distribution. These companies know full well what's going on, so I believe they deserve what they get.

In essence, no matter how it gets twisted and watered-down, these organizations are simply engaging in lying to consumers, selling illicit banned compounds willingly, and putting countless dedicated athlete's health at risk - all so they can offer a microscopic scooper without ANY efficacious clinical dosages of a single ergogenic compound, to keep their profit margins healthy, and their customers cracked out thinking they are gaining and realizing their ambitions.
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Methylhexanamine(I think this is different from dimethylxanthine) is now classified as an unapproved drug in Canada. It looks like it is illegal now to sell any products containing this here.
 
bikeswimlive said:
They abuse red bull too. They sell 20+ oz cans, yet a serving is 8 oz. Abuse!
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same thing with redline and endorush but they say drink one serving but you cant close the top of a can unlike the bottle on redline and endo.

Dymeth "fries" your adrenal glands much worse IMO thats where the abuse comes from people jsut keep taking it more cuz its in a powder unlike drinking a ton of cans. sure people could drink 3 redbulls but no one will cuz u feel like crap and piss for days. throwing in a extra scoop of an already potent product when you bought the powder already and can use the same about of water? I think preworks get abused a lot more.
 
bigwhiteguy29 said:
same thing with redline and endorush but they say drink one serving but you cant close the top of a can unlike the bottle on redline and endo.

Dymeth "fries" your adrenal glands much worse IMO thats where the abuse comes from people jsut keep taking it more cuz its in a powder unlike drinking a ton of cans. sure people could drink 3 redbulls but no one will cuz u feel like crap and piss for days. throwing in a extra scoop of an already potent product when you bought the powder already and can use the same about of water? I think preworks get abused a lot more.
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explain how it fries the adrenal glands more? more then what?
 
tnubs said:
i saw a study somewhere (cant remember where) saying that they couldnt even find 1,3dmaa in geranium at all and that it was just a way to get around the FDA. the stuff is a designer amphetamine... and it does act similar to speed but with a shorter time in the body. i personally love this stuff when used sparingly as it can take my motivation to a whole new level. it isnt the safest stuff out there but id say its safer than being obese. can we PLEASE ban obesity?
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eatingisfun said:
Methylhexanamine(I think this is different from dimethylxanthine) is now classified as an unapproved drug in Canada. It looks like it is illegal now to sell any products containing this here.
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Both of you guys are correct. Essentially, this means that 1,3 dim is Not DSHEA compliant and will eventually be pulled from the market.

IMHO - it's time to stock up on geranium. I've got a line to some bulk geranium...and by bulk...i mean I'll be buying 100+ GRAMS.
 
I'v been fearing / waiting for a ban to come down for a few years now it seems. Hope it does not happen.

brb stocking up on flashover, jack3d, and others.
 
yea, i hope flashover goes on sale right before nutra picks up on the ban coming. id be all over it
 
i hope this possible gov shutdown includes the fda!!! :yup:
 
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